Protesters Rally Against Blair

Often times people will use such reassuring terms as "reconciliation" and "healing" to cover their conflict-based intent.

"We've got to get away from this idea that backing a regime that is brutal and oppressive because of a tactical advantage is smart strategy. It isn't," -Tony Blair-

So let's have a printed accounting of all the regimes around the world that violate human rights and see who is bankrolling them. Furthermore, let's see if Blair has severed all ties with those forces that are bankrolling them, and if he has, then we'll know he's on the right track.

Interesting thought for many of the protesters (not all of them) if not our entire society that I heard recently. If someone uses illegal drugs does that make them at least partly responsible for the conflict and deaths in Mexico and Central and South America as well as other spots on the globe?

I personally feel that decriminalizing drugs is the way to go and that the government is wrong on the issue. However until they are legal, it could be argued that there is a link between even the casual user here to the thousands of deaths and numerous conflicts that have arisen out of Americans use of narcotics for recreational use.

Of course its always easier to yell at Tony Blair than look in mirror.

Blair is right. Radical Islam is a THE greatest threat to our civilization. Muslims are not "free" in countries where these women-gay-Christian-Jew hating freakoids hold power. The "media" does a disservice by covering idiot protestors more than Blair (and his speech!) The "media" should take a look at www.actforamerica.org

I think it's time for some people to take a cue from the name of their favorite leftie group, MoveOn.org, & do just that: MOVE ON! PLEASE! It's done, it's over, move on.
I love the sign saying Tony Blair ain't welcome & calling him a terrorist. Classic. Why didn't they hold up that sign & address it to the real terrorists after 9/11 occurred?
Many of these protesters are the self-hating western ethnosnobs who are willing to blame America 1st & look down upon those who serve this country by word or deed.
They say that we shouldn't change other cultures, but are the 1st to criticize these other cultures for their norms such as abuse of women & gays, truly a noble protest (which I FULLY support), but it is an attempt to change the culture of that region nonetheless.
Of course, they won't speak out against the abuse of Jews or Christians by these cultures because as we know, to the self-hating western ethnosnobs, these groups don't matter.
There's no talking to these individuals because they will just drown you out w/ rhetorical/emotional yelling. Seen that TOO many times @ UCSB when certain speakers came to campus to speak.
So please, move on, there's newer problems to focus on, 1 of them is STILL islamofascism, whether you like it or not.
By the way, you can defend the islamofascists, decry Christianity & Judaism all you want, but in the end, you're still an infidel & will be subject to execution by said islamofascists. Sorry, that's just the way it is :) henry

hank, my man, you're all over the board!

Just like the hatred of radical anti-American jihadists persists, and our country's prosecution of terrorists continues, so too does the prosecution of crimes -- some of them possible War Crimes -- committed in the past 8 years.

The Timeline:

1. crimes committed; laws broken
2. accusations and charges filed
3. prosecutions commence
4. wheels of justice turn
5. justice served?

We're only in step 2: too soon to Move.On, my good man!

HAHAHA! Binky, if you're relying on the justice system, remember, the only 1's that get the brunt is "just us" :) henry

"Just us" the old Richard Pryor routine which on the LP credits themselves it says "Stolen from Hal Mooney"

The 1st time I heard that used in that context was on "Good Times" w/ Jimmy Walker sometime around 1972 or 73. JJ's mom used it as a reference to their plight. Sticks in my head to this day! :) henry

Bush and Blair killed and maimed many times more people than did bin Laden, and the Bush regime did more damage to democratic freedoms and ideals than the wholly impossible Islamic putsch to take over the U.S. that some people seem to fear. The bizarre claim that those who wish to see torturers held to account are "self-hating" shows a suffocating lack of moral awareness that is equivalent to that of the fanatics against whom such blowhards are supposedly defending civilization.

You wimps are going to be the first ones crying when the "terrorists" you so sorely want to defend blow you to Kingdom come. This is the mindset that will allow another attack on America. And this time it won't be just 3000. And what about those 3000? They were KILLED (forget about maimed...) How quickly they forget. How sad that people like "binky" and "pk" (don't the names alone say it all?) get to post their stupidity in public.

Speaking of names, why not use your full name, Maximum Hysteria? First, I haven't forgotten that bin Laden murdered 3000, but you seem blind to the fact that Bush has killed nearly 5000 so far, and of course that doesn't include the Iraqi dead, who don't seem to matter to people like you. Second, no one is defending terrorists, just the right of people accused of being terrorists to be put on trial and, if convicted, then punished, not tortured beforehand for no reason but the frightened viciousness of people like you and Dick Cheney, who seem to feel that using techniques employed by Nazis and Chinese Communists, for which people have been sent to jail or hung, is a perfectly fine response to your bedwetting.

maximum, that is very gracious:

I accept your apology.

Tony Blair lied to the people of the UK and the world in order to start a war, one in a series which had been planned several years in advance of 9/11 by hardline neoconservative think-tanks whose personnel eventually stacked the 2001 Bush Administration Cabinet.

The intel was that Saddam Hussein, (a former US ally), had ordered the destruction and abandonment of the entire Iraqi WMD stockpile by early 1992. This intelligence was spot on the mark, but hardliners within the Bush Administration wanted none of it, and neither did the US corporate media. Had the public been told the facts by the mainstream media, which, in classic Soviet fashion, became appeasers, regurgitating the lies wholesale, this disaster could have been averted. Tony Blair abandoned his Labour Party/working class base and sided with the neoconservatives, whose cronies stood to earn $hundreds of billions, while the unfortunate, duped US/UK taxpayers paid the astronomical bill. The wars have killed 4600 US troops as many as 1.5 million Iraqi and Afghan civilians to date.

The Iraq and Afghanistan wars could never had happened without a "catastrophic catalyzing incident, like a new Pearl Harbor": This is the exact language employed by PNAC in its document "Rebuilding America's Defenses" (September 10, 2000). There was clearly great motivation to either carry out or permit such an incident, on the part of extremist neoconservative elements within the Bush Administration. For them, it addressed three simultaneous issues: (1) how to take over the Middle East's massive oil resources and amass personal fortunes and profits for corporations run by their cronies, (2) militarily project US total global dominance thus justifying major ramping up of "defense" spending, and (3) an opportunity to unleash US military might upon the world's Islamic people, regarded by many senior neocons with a long held, thinly disguised, pathological hatred.

9/11 was the trigger that kneejerked the public into a uniformly angry Pavlovian feel-good "phoney patriotic" response. It worked a charm, and Bush's approval ratings skyrocketed from 40% to a record 92%. Before the dust settled, a baseless connection between Iraq and 9/11 was being promoted by Admin. members, especially Cheney and Rumsfeld. This garbage was soundly debunked by intel agencies worldwide, including CIA and MI6, but promoted, predictably, by the US corporate media in true "axis of weasel" fashion. Tony Blair was embroiled in this web of deceit, caught "red-handed" via the Downing Street memos. If there was justice in the world, Blair should be subject to questioning and cross examination by an international war crimes tribunal. Is not the cry of authoritarians "if one is innocent, then one has nothing to hide"?