Dalai Lama Imparts Wisdom to UCSB Crowd

Hopefully the truth will prevail one day.

You can deceive some of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you cannot deceive all of the people all the time. Dalai lama only talks the talk but he can't walk the walk. After his tour to America(smiling face for long time), he will came back with a very tired face(Angry face). If anybody upset his God king status, we would be dead and hungry without a refugee document. Dalai lama you are the king of the refugee.

American People wake up from

It is sad that UCSB continues to indulge this man, whose government continues to attack Tibetans who don't conform to his religious views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqON2l...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkLH56...

I wonder what his day to day life is like? Does he ever ust wander down a street and stop for a cup of tea and a chat?
Can he walk about freely? Is there anywhere for him to be alone and exercize free movement? Can he simply play?
For almost 74 years this human has been walking about the planet suggesting peace. How could anyone take aim or feel threatened? It doesn't fit. I have heard that when one sits near him they feel the "sweetness" of his nature.

On behalf of the people who wish they had been able to be there, thanks for this informative description of what sounds like a great event--especially that afternoon talk in English.

Thanks Charles, and thank you very much sixdolphins. I was thinking that all day. Gunga galunga. So I got that going for me, which is nice.

The damask rose.

Often, when
a green and
delicate rose
appears near an
hopeful hedge,
a passing cloud
invents an emotion,
and even a smile,
like beautiful
thoughts in the
sun of your song.

Francesco Sinibaldi

The Dalia Lama lineage has been in effect for far too long and Americans brief history does not allow them to understand the horrific reality of ordinary Tibetans in servitude for over 350 years as Serfs and Slaves until the Chinese liberated 95% of them from this horrific life of deprivations.
If any of these people in awe of DL would simply read the history of his regime.Perhaps they would deal with this Charlatan in a different perspective.
Wake up and smell the dictatorial theocratic potentates we know as Dalia Lama. Crowned by the Mongolian Cavalry after DL enlisted their service to overthrow and ancient and revered School Of Buddhism by slaughtering the oppostion before assuming the mantle as Supreme Dictator over the Tibetan Highlands.
Go to Tibet and see for yourself how much this man misrepesents the facts of Tibet today. Never have the ordinary Tibetans received so much assistance and aide to lift them from servitude to the monastic institutions overlords.
He is not a democratic ideal by any defintion of the word.

I had a ticket to go, but Cher made me an offer I couldn't refuse. She's much more enlightened than I and more de$erving of His Holiness's affection. I'm starting to think the real sages are roaming our streets in rags,like Buddha?

One must ask, who's the coolest Buddhist? and what is a Buddhist? Robert Thurman, Sarah Powers, Richard Gere, Dianne Feinstein, her husband?

After spending most of my life searching, I've learned three things, first, students are a reflection of their teacher, second, you are your own best teacher,and third, nature will overcome all human actions.

I hope his message was worth the $320K it cost to bring him here and I know $64k went to his charities. Too bad that money couldn't have gone to feed a few of our "Lama's."

Next big UCSB event "Floatopia 2"....isn't life perfect. Enough trash talking for now. Peace

The Legends of the Dalai Lama

This year will see the 50th anniversary of the uprising of the Tibetan people against China. In the West, the spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, is worshipped like a pop star. Strange. The normally romanticized theocracy was a corrupt feudal system that enslaved its subjects.

Recently, in the context of his most recent trip to Europe, the Dalai Lama could receive the German Media Award in Baden-Baden, which has previously been granted to celebrities such as Nelson Mandela, Bill Clinton or Bono. On March 10 fifty years ago, the Tibetans rose up against the Chinese hegemony. And it is seventy years since a little farmer's boy became 'His Holiness'.

In winter 1937/38 [the common story of recognition follows].

Everybody loves the now 73-year-old Dalai Lama, and in particular have done so since 1998 when Martin Scorsese brought his autobiography called 'Kundun' into our cinemas. From Richard Gere through to Brad Pitt, from Patti Smith through to Peter Maffay, from Dolly Buster to Robbie Williams: everyone worships the non-stop world jet-setting spiritual leader of the Tibetans. When the Dalai Lama came to Switzerland three years ago, during his eight day visit 30,000 people went onto a pilgrimage to the Zurich stadium to see him. And as is clear with the idolization of the Dalai Lama, whom even people who are not normally fond of personality cults, call 'His Holiness', the same is true for Tibet. There is a common agreement that, before the Chinese marched in, this mountainous region was a paradise of meditating monks and happy farmers living in the midst of splendid mountain scenery - and that it would be again if it were not for the evil occupiers.

The reality is that until fifty years ago Tibet was a clerical-feudal tyranny. The truth is that a lot of the widespread common knowledge about the country is just wishful thinking. There are also dark sides to the biography of the Dalai Lama, and a lot of obscure stuff is mixed in with the esoteric Lamaism Schw¤rmerei (excessive sentimentality). However, since there is only little journalism on site, it is not easy to find the truth within the jungle of exile Tibetan and Chinese propaganda.

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In the Dalai Lama's autobiography, however, it sounds like paradise when he mentally travels back to the Tibet of his youth: "No one needs to make too much of an effort in order to earn his living. Existence happens on its own and everything works wonderfully." Accordingly, during his reign, he did not make any effort to reform the country, apart from stopping the legal heritage of tax debts. The fact that political decisions are based upon oracles and astrology is no problem for him, who normally pretends to be democratic and progressive. Even though in his 'five point peace plan' he demands 'respect for the democratic freedoms of the Tibetan people', he himself has not tried until today, not even within the exile communities, to be democratically legitimized. Self-evidently he pretends to be the wholistic leader of the Tibetans, even though, strictly speaking, he is not even the spiritual representative of the whole of Tibet. He is merely the head of the Gelugpa order, the so called Yellow Hats, whose claim for leadership he has been trying to pursue for decades. These contradictions are also true for his ecological engagement. On the one hand, he demands to transform Tibet into a kind of natural reserve park and uses every opportunity to demand more ecological thinking in accordance with Mother Nature. On the other hand, from the first days of his exile onwards, at his seat in Dharamsala, the litter keeps being piled up simply on a large waste dump.

While the Dalai Lama and his entourage went into exile to Dharamsala in India, the Cultural Revolution raged in Tibet. Between 1966 and 1976, thousands of monasteries and cultural monuments were destroyed. Switzerland was the first European country which, in 1961, accepted Tibetan refugees and offered them accommodation and work in Rikon. In 1967, the monastic Tibet Institute was opened. The information from the Dalai Lama and Tibet supporters is often not credible with regards to the Chinese occupancy. Very often it is not mentioned that in the meantime approximately half of the monasteries have been restored and are running again. Also, since the mid-nineties, you can no longer claim that there is a ban on the monastic system. If the Dalai Lama is asked about these things he replies that the monasteries have only been rebuilt for the sake of tourists; thus the Chinese are said to have no interest in maintaining the traditional culture but to re-install it as exotic backdrop and in this way it is being doomed even more. One limitation however has been enforced, undoubtedly against the will of the Dalai Lama: no more children can enter the monasteries. Also in his autobiography, 'His Holiness' claims that, due to resettlement programmes, the Chinese proportion of the population overrides the Tibetans. According to the disputed census in 2000, the proportion of Chinese people within the Tibetan Autonomous Region is 6.1%, with the highest proportion, 17%, being in Lhasa. Again and again the claim has been spread that 1.2 million Tibetans had become victims of Chinese terror, in other words a full fifth of the population. Official statements from Dharamsala even sometimes say that all of these have been Tibetan prisoners who were victims of torture or executions, and very often Chinese concentration camps are mentioned. Without doubt, China is far away from regular constitutional affairs; however the charge of systematic, lethal torture of thousands - as indicated by the term 'concentration camp' - is hardly plausible.

Towards the end of the 1980s there were again riots in Tibet, and in December 1989 the Dalai Lama received the Nobel Peace Price. About one year before that he became friends with the Japanese Shoko Asahara, who ran a 'spiritual community' with several thousand followers near Tokyo. According to the researches of the publisher Colin Goldner, Ashara visited with the Dalai Lama several times in 1988. This community with their 'appreciated aims and activities' (said the Dalai Lama) was 'Aum', one of the most dangerous and totalitarian cults ever, which performed the Tokyo subway poison attacks in March 1995. The Japanese authorities had been patient with the megalomaniac Guru, despite all warnings, possibly due to the protecting hands of the Dalai Lama. When the Centres after the Sarin attack were finally searched, there were deposits of chemical and other weapons which could have killed millions of people at once. The Dalai Lama however could not even find one single word of regret. Even as late as Summer 1995, when at the Peace University in Berlin, he stated that he would recognize Asahara as a 'friend, even though not necessarily an unmistaken one'.

Also the so-called 'Shugden affair' gives rise to doubts about the much-praised wisdom of the Dalai Lama. In Summer 1996, upon the advice of his state oracle, he banned the worship of the protector Deity Dorje Shugden for his people. A number of abbots and monks protested against this ban. They accused the Dalai Lama of violating religious freedom, who reacted to this insubordination by systematic searches of houses and monasteries in the exile community. Shugden statues were destroyed and renitent monks bashed and beaten. Supporter committees even claimed that the Shugden movement was hand in glove with China.

[Mentions the triple murder. More information about that can be found here: Defamatory accusations of murder repeated over and over again for ten years]

Monks armed with iron bars

Generally, the riots before the Olympic Games were presented by the Western media in a way that they fitted into the image of 'peace-loving Tibetans'' - either any violence was supposedly coming from the side of the Chinese, or, if not, claims were made to the effect that Tibetan protesters had only acted in self-defence. Footage documentation and reports from eye-witnesses however give evidence of how monks armed with iron bars and bats went marauding through the historic quarter of town. Buses and cars were pushed over and set on fire, and Chinese shops and houses were pillaged. Molotov cocktails were even thrown into kindergartens, schools and hospitals. The Dalai Lama later claimed that the monks had been Chinese soldiers in disguise. This is because, by definition, Tibetans are non-violent. Around the world, demonstrations of solidarity took place.

[The rest is about the Dalai Lama's right-wing tendencies and the stories about the liaisons between Tibetans and the Nazis and how the Tibetan regent wrote a letter to 'King Hitler'. The final paragraph is on the question why it is that the Dalai Lama is so popular in the West in spite of all the facts mentioned; and the main conclusion is that it is because Westerners are so naive

plastics.

yo, he's not the answer, just the question.

The question is, are you really ready to love and harbor those less fortunate than you, today and in your own town?

I bet not! .org

I find the Dalai Lama's definition of secularism and a respect for all religions humourous at best, with the Shudgen controversy quickly coming to mind... you know, that controversy that doesn't exist in the Dalai Lama's opinion, but only in the opinion of the thousands of monks locked out of their monasteries.

A respect for all religions... hummm. Are we not speaking of an institution which for centuries demonstrated the exact opposite? Even better yet, what do most people know of the institution known as that of the Dalai Lama?

Let's see... the first Dalai Lama was actually the third, where his long dead teachers received the title post-humously. The 5th Dalai Lama (actually the 3rd) directed the Mongol army into Bhutan, to obliterate the male and female lines, as well as their offspring, "like eggs smashed against rocks".

More importantly, when is a theocracy ever a democracy? Inquiring minds would like to know.

What do we actually know about this particular Dalai Lama?

When challenged on the issue of gender bias within the Tibetan tradition he feigned ignorance... yet are we not speaking of the man who is supposedly the embodiment of the Tibetan tradition, sometimes described as the "God-King of Tibet"?

A few years later, when in San Francisco, he not only declared that homosexuality was sexual misconduct, but specifically stated that the Buddha said so. He was then asked "Where did the Buddha say this?" and he replied "I don't know." Then he was asked "Where did the Buddha say this?" and again he gave the same reply.

There's a humorous pseudo-Confucian Analect that would be most appropriate when it comes to the inherent wisdom possessed by the Dalai Lama: It is better to shut one's mouth and appear ignorant, than open it and remove all doubt.

Of course, there was more $60,000 raised by the event an it's now being sent to the Tibetan government to disperse as "it" sees fit. All I can say is that UCSB apparently has some real rocket scientists, especially when they don't have the slightest idea of what they're supporting, but on the other hand when did historical truth ever matter to a supporter of the Dalai Lama?

I'm sure the very late Sen. Joseph McCarthy is smiling in his grave.

I see that the Chinese community and the New Kadampa folks have turned out in force; none of whom ever did anything like actually listening to the talk.

The first group want to attack the Tibetan cause, no matter what.

The second group want to attack the Dalai Lama, no matter what.

But unbiased people can see and hear the quality of the Dalai Lama; and they can also detect the lack of quality of these two groups of attackers. Too bad, guys. You can defeat the bodies of the Tibetans, but you are no competition to the mind and compassion of the Dalai Lama.

Interesting... the minute one challenges the lack of transparency within the the pro-Dalai Lama camp they are labeled Chinese sympathists.

Where's your own transparency, nealjking? Are my statements incorrect? No, they are not.

My friend, there is no such thing as a political agenda where someone doesn't suffer, whether it's a Buddhist orientated agenda or not.

You see, there is more than just "individual karma", there is also "collective karma", which the Dalai Lama has even admitted. The problem is when one ignores the past, it only allows it to reoccur time and time again.

The majority of supporters wish to bury the collective karma of Tibetan theocracy, but there is no healing without transparency. Never has been.

(But unbiased people can see and hear the quality of the Dalai Lama; and they can also detect the lack of quality of these two groups of attackers. Too bad, guys. You can defeat the bodies of the Tibetans, but you are no competition to the mind and compassion of the Dalai Lama.)

Unbaised people as well can also see the hypocracy from this man regarding his actions and the conformity to his speech, always makes me laugh how when ever anyone disagrees with the dalai lama they are always get the label of being a chinese agent......what a crock of brown stuff anyone who has a genuine issue with the dalai lama's actions regarding religious freedom it doesnt mean they are chinese or chinese puppets....frankly it only goes to show how blind faith turns you into a slave.

If the dalai lama had a mind of compassion im sure he would extend it t shugden practitoners to, lets not forget his two tutors both junior and senior where both shugden practitoners, lets not forget that an emination of alovekitshvara would surely show compassion to all sentient beings and not start segregation campaigns against those who dont want to conform to his political agenda......From the actions of the dalai lama it seems there is no compassion toward shugden practitoners and there never will be, if you want to call the dalai lama a living buddha they must first met the criteria of performing the actions of an enlightened being and not showing themselves to be samsaric beings......that is just pure hypocracy.

Blind faith makes you a slave.

All humans are incomplete, non-objective, contradictory. For better or worse, that's the state of being human at this point in our evolution. Of course those criticizing the Dalai Lama have agendas, just as those who defend him do, as well. Show me a government, religion, social movement, which does not have its "dark side," its dogmas, its own brand of violence against opposition -- you can't (with the possible exception of some aboriginal societies, but I'm not certain).
What makes the Dalai Lama worth listening to, even as the representative of a theocracy which sprang from a feudal history (and may still have echoes of its past), is that he's trying to reshape the religion he was "recruited" into as a boy, to spread the "gospel" of peace in a way that resonates with so many around the world. Personally, I think he is too lenient with those with excessive wealth (those rich and famous in his entourage and audiences looking for atonement and absolution), but, after all, he's only human...

At least the Dalai Lama is trying, and I doubt that he's ever commissioned anyone to commit the cowardly and fascistic act of hacking into computer systems and networks belonging to others. Such acts are only committed by those who fear differing views of how life might be lived and who are not comfortable in their own skins and minds. And that's the answer to Rodney King's timeless question "Why can't we all get along?"

No, he didn't recruit anyone to hack into computers, he just received a lot of money from the CIA to train Tibetans as guerillasto send into China to fight the Chinese, some of which were actually trained in the US at our own military bases.

If readers wish to know more about this, please read the official declassified documents:

http://www.state.gov/www/about_state/...

The Dalai Lama also has no problem supporting lies, such as when the recent riots occured in Tibet, when they claimed that they had evidence that the Chinese orchestrated the riots.

What was the excuse for this lie? That it's okay it's okay to lie if it saves a life, but let's examine what the Buddha said to his son Rahula in regard to lying:

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"Rahula, do you see the small amount of water in this pot?"

"Yes, sir."

"Even so, little is the training of those who have no shame at intentional lying."

The Buddha then threw the water away and said: "Do you see this small amount of water that I have thrown away?"

"Yes, sir."

"Even so, Rahula, thrown away is the training of those who have no shame at intentional lying."

The Buddha then turned the pot over and said: "Do you see this pot that has been turned over?"

"Yes, sir."

"Even so, turned over is the training of those who have no shame at intentional lying."

The Buddha then turned the pot upright again and said: "Do you see this pot now empty and void?"

"Yes, sir."

"Even so, Rahula, empty and void is the training of those who have no shame at intentional lying."

The Buddha then impressed upon his son the importance of speaking the truth.

"Rahula, for anyone who has no shame at intentional lying, there is no evil that that person cannot do."

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I have a question.... if the Buddha gave up his kingdom for enlightenment, why doesn't the Dalai Lama doesn't do the same?

Oh yes, the reason is because people believe that the Tibetan understanding of the Dharma supercedes that of the Buddha and the original Sangha.

Within Buddhism we have the Pakasaniya Kamma, the official act of proclamation carried out by the Sangha when the words and physical actions of a monk are clearly no longer related to the Buddha, the Dharma, or the Sangha, though it's questionable whether or not an official proclamation is even neccessary, especially if the behavior and/or misconduct is the act of proclamation in and of itself alone --- in other words, by one's own conduct they have declared the proclamation on themselves.

Also, let's ask the Dalai Lama about the rumors of his sexual misconduct while in robes and the illegitimate child he supposedly kept hidden in the shadows.... where there's smoke there's usually a fire and there's so little you people know about this man.

Apparently it's okay in the West to challenge the Roman Catholic clergy for their sexual misconduct, but not a Buddhist monk... that's the real hyprocrisy.

Don't feel bad about the 13th Dalia Lama. The 13th Dalia Lama upon discovering a piece of paper in shoe, had Dorje Shugden Monks slowly flayed alive over several days and then had their monastery ground into literal dust. He wanted to supercede the Chinese by 35 years and get started destroying monasteries. Now this 14th man is excommunicating the only school of Tibet that accuses him of murdering Dragpa Gylatshen to take over Tibet at the begining of his Lineage descendants. Fools listen to sand blowing as if it were rain flowing. Dl Is a desert unto himself. He blesses no one except himself.

Gunga galunga...gunga lagunga.

Thom: Never heard that story about the 13th Dalai Lama, but there's quite a bit about him gathered from conversations with the last Bogdo Khan (Jabtsundamba Khutuktu) in "Beasts, Men and Gods" by Ferdinand Ossendowski.

You can find it online here:

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2067

It's kind of typical of the romantic travelogues of the time, but it paints a very vivid picture of the living hell that the region went through... the agendas of the Chinese, the Russians, etc., also alot of the folktales current during that period, as well as a couple chapters dealing with Dambijantsan, the "Avenging Lama" of the Red Hat sect.

Needless to say, the current Dalai Lama inherited a world not of his making, as well as one I wouldn't wish on anyone.

His discrimination will soon come to an end, i just hope the damage is reverable no wonder why trijang chocktrul rinpoche has distance him self from the DL his lies have become unbearable for many, all i see is a man clinging to to much power in an attempt to unite all the schools under his directorship this is shameful, Let them govern themselves instead of being forced to comply with his last attempted power grab.

Wonder if he flew first class? No--probably in a Gulfstream. Kinda hard to reconcile that with asceticism...