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    Pacific Pride Festival 2010

    Paul Wellman

    Pacific Pride Festival 2010


    Judge Overturns Prop. 8

    Ruling Allows Same-Sex Marriage in California


    Originally published 5:00 p.m., August 4, 2010
    Updated 5:35 p.m., August 4, 2010
    By Tyler Hayden (Contact)
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    A federal judge in San Francisco ruled today that Proposition 8 — the 2008 voter-approved ballot measure banning same-sex unions in California — violated the federal constitutional rights of gays and lesbians to marry the partners of their choice. U.S. District Chief Judge Vaughn R. Walker issued the decision, writing:

    “Proposition 8 fails to advance any rational basis in singling out gay men and lesbians for denial of a marriage license. Indeed, the evidence shows Proposition 8 does nothing more than enshrine in the California Constitution the notion that opposite-sex couples are superior to same-sex couples.

    “Because California has no interest in discriminating against gay men and lesbians, and because Proposition 8 prevents California from fulfilling its constitutional obligation to provide marriages on an equal basis,the court concludes that Proposition 8 is unconstitutional.”

    The full ruling can be read here.

    David Selberg
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    David Selberg

    Not long after the landmark decision was announced, The Independent chatted by phone with David Selberg, executive director of the Pacific Pride Foundation. “The emails and calls we’re getting are full of support,” he said when asked how people have been reacting so far. “Judge Walker did the right thing,” he said. “We’re really pleased that he got it.”

    Selberg was quick to note, though, that nothing is etched in stone as an appeal in the works is set to be filed with the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. “We’re hopeful, but civil rights is a tough thing sometimes,” he said. “The battle is not over.” Selberg predicted that the appeal is likely to hang in litigation limbo for a couple of years before it eventually makes its way to the U.S. Supreme Court. “But for today,” he said, “it’s a good day. It’s a good moment.”

    County Registrar Joe Holland — whose office issues marriage licenses throughout Santa Barbara — explained that Judge Walker included a stay with his ruling that will likely last at least until a hearing scheduled for this Friday. (The stay prevents the resumption of same-sex marriages statewide while the decision makes its way through the appeals process.) During the Friday hearing, Walker can rule to either lift the stay or have it continue, said Holland.

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    However, because the appeal is now in the jurisdiction of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, that court can choose to issue a stay whenever it wants. In other words, theorized Holland, the 9th Circuit Court could hypothetically choose to issue a stay as early as Thursday, rendering Walker’s Friday hearing moot. Or it could completely keep out of these early stages of the process and allow Walker to make his scheduled ruling at the end of the week. It’s anyone’s guess.

    If Walker lifts the stay and the appeals court chooses to stay quiet, gay and lesbian marriages could start happening as soon as Friday. “We just have to wait and see,” said Holland. But Santa Barbara County, he continued, won’t start issuing licenses until it gets its cue from the court to do so. Should that happen, staff are ready. “We did this back in June 2008 and are ready to do it again,” he stated. “The forms are there and there’s no real financial impact on the county. We just have to do it.”

    Moving forward, Selberg is already thinking about his side’s tentative plan to put a measure on the state’s 2012 ballot that would once again legalize gay marriage. And he thinks that if it does pass, the Supreme Court will take notice. “If [the appeal] goes before the Supreme Court one day,” he said, “and if [the justices] see that several significant states are overwhelmingly passing the right for gay and lesbian couples to marry, maybe that’ll influence their decision. It shouldn’t,” he went on. “They should exist to do the right thing and protect the rights of minorities, but that isn’t the world we live in.”

    This story was updated to include comments from County Registrar Joe Holland.

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    This will definitely go to the Supreme Court and they will most likely vote 5-4 to uphold Prop 8. The notion that the Supreme Court justices are fair and neutral is quaint but sadly not true. They are picked by a President because they agree with his philosophy. Currently there are 4 right wing ideologues and one slightly neutral conservative judges. Do the math. I would be curious if the pro Prop 8 folks can demonstrate any adverse effect on marriage in the states that currently have legalized same sex marriage. I would be surprised if any such evidence exists. I can't see why they want to get married but it's really none of my business. If they want it let'em have it, How does it hurt any of us so called "straight"married couples? This is just another dumb prejudice that is slowly falling, as if any god that might exist could really care about our personal, private, consensual sex lives. Really!

    Noletaman (anonymous profile)
    August 4, 2010 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    Everybody was okay with it until the Teacher's Union began backing it, which goes to show that people are still not fully okay with the idea, but are willing to live and let live.

    AZ2SB (anonymous profile)
    August 4, 2010 at 6:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    I'd like to think that by the time this makes it to the Supreme Court, a majority of voting Californians will be ready to overturn the ban on same sex marriage.

    Brett

    blocker (anonymous profile)
    August 4, 2010 at 7:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    The prop h8ate proponent's star witness failed to support their case http://prop8trialtracker.com/page/2/

    73 million dollars spent in California alone; wasted on this 'conservative' issue because certain operatives stirred up the hate, bigotry and politicized this issue for political gain. If you are involved with this proposition 8 please check with your organization or church sponsors and demand that they stop instigating hate and wasteful spending. Next stop; Arizona.

    DonMcDermott (anonymous profile)
    August 4, 2010 at 10:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    We'll no doubt hear complaints about "judicial activism" overturning the "will of the people." Conservatives make these charges when a court overturns things they like (a ban on gay marriage), but they are silent about "judicial activism" overturning the "will of the people" when a court overturns things they don't like (local gun laws).

    pk (anonymous profile)
    August 5, 2010 at 6:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

    Pleasing to see a few of my usual debate opponents are on my side- and support equality. Gives me faith in America.

    EZK (anonymous profile)
    August 5, 2010 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

    Vaughn Walker's opinion was terrific. Let's keep the faith!

    It takes time to move people's heartfelt prejudices, and time will allow us to win this one.

    Laws against miscegenation are gone and the right for all to marry will soon extend to everyone.

    snugspout (anonymous profile)
    August 5, 2010 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

    I read a poll recently that today prop 8 would fail. I think the only reason it passed was the lies spread via massive advertising paid for mostly by the LDS. A Mormon relative of mine still firmly believes that without prop 8, her bishop would be required to marry same sex couples, despite the court clearly stating that no one would be required to perform a marriage ceremony against their conscience.

    I just hope the SCOTUS can focus on the facts like Vaughn Walker did.

    Rich (anonymous profile)
    August 6, 2010 at 2:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

    And when it comes time for our own local city elections, don't forget Dale "Most Vulnerable to Recall" Francisco supported prop.8

    EZK (anonymous profile)
    August 6, 2010 at 9:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

    Equal protection means prohibiting heterosexual marriage, right???

    Adonis_Tate (anonymous profile)
    August 8, 2010 at 8:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

    Not a bad idea, then couple's would probably stay together longer.

    AZ2SB (anonymous profile)
    August 8, 2010 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    I assume that anyone on the Supreme Court who is married or has been married or might sometime maybe possibly think of getting married and/or is homosexual or heterosexual or maybe not sure-o-sexual will recuse himself or herself or whateverself from the case when it finally arrives there. We can't risk having pure judicial impartiality tainted by life experience.

    pk (anonymous profile)
    August 8, 2010 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    I support Gay,Lesbian, and Tran-gender marriage, no one should be denied the joys of marriage because of sexual orientation. No one should be denied that after years of a committed marriage your partner tells you they don't love you anymore and that they're having an affair with your friend. No one should be denied the legal experience of tearing you assets apart,paying monthly support,and giving up your house to your partner and former friend. These rights and legal proceedings should be given to all people, not just heterosexuals. If same-sex couples want to marry, who are we to stop them from sharing this joy.

    CManSB (anonymous profile)
    August 15, 2010 at 2:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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