On Solidity
Absent-Minded Science, Part III
Sunday, December 26, 2010
For those of us who are contemplative, there is a tendency when encountering a philosophical system that is initially appealing to become overly excited. It is the system—the approach to explaining all of this (arms outstretched)—that we had been looking for and failing to find for so many years.
This happened to me a few years ago when I first encountered Alfred North Whitehead’s ideas. I’ve read widely in philosophy for decades now, but it was only when I was sufficiently inspired to write down my own ideas, my own theory of this, that I got serious about examining other serious theories.
Tam Hunt
Whitehead was a British mathematician, logician, physicist, and philosopher. He spent the last decade or so of his academic life at the Harvard philosophy department and became, ironically, a key part of the American 20th-century philosophic tradition, along with William James, Charles Peirce, Josiah Royce, etc. Before then, he spent many years at Cambridge, where he famously collaborated with Bertrand Russell on the three-volume Principia Mathematica, a tour de force that attempted to reduce all of mathematics to simple logic. It failed, ultimately, but that’s a different story.
Whitehead is best known today for his “process philosophy,” which he himself called the “philosophy of organism.” The basic idea of process philosophy, as with all Buddhist schools of thought, is that all of this is impermanence, flux, constant change — process. Whitehead wrote a number of books in the last phase of his career that fleshed out his incredibly rich philosophy.
None is more rich — nor more difficult — than his Process and Reality, which first appeared in 1929. This book presents Whitehead’s theory of everything and situates it within the Western tradition of John Locke, Spinoza, Kant, Schopenhauer, Hume, and others.
Whitehead’s system is compelling for a number of reasons, not least of which are its adequacy to the facts of human experience, its logical consistency, and the pedigree of its creator. It’s hard to find someone more qualified than Whitehead to create a comprehensive philosophical system, due to his background in mathematics, logic, and physics at the highest levels of academia.
Anyway, I became infatuated with Whitehead and his intellectual successors David Ray Griffin, John Cobb Jr., Charles Hartshorne, etc. Here’s why.
Perhaps the primary purpose of philosophy is to explain the objective world and how we fit into it. When we look around us, feel around us, sense around us in the most general sense, we detect solidity. The chair I’m in right now stops me from falling to the ground because of its solidity. The ground, because of its solidity, more generally stops me, and you, from falling through the Earth. The stars in the heavens are detectable to our telescopes because of their presumed solidity. And the microbes and electrons we see in our microscopes are detectable because of their solidity. So what is this solidity?
Physics is of course the science that directly addresses solidity, and “matter” is what we generally call most of the stuff that collectively comprises solidity. Most non-physicists — and perhaps many physicists also — presume that modern physics has in fact pinned down solidity. But it hasn’t. Physics still has no idea what matter really is. Theories abound. Most physicists, when pressed to really drill down deep, would suggest that matter is comprised of fields which are themselves comprised of energy, or vice versa. Quantum field theory, one of the crown jewels in modern physics, successfully combined quantum mechanics with special relativity. (See Max Jammer’s Concepts of Matter).
The far more difficult task of reconciling general relativity (the prevailing theory of gravity, space, and time) with quantum mechanics (the prevailing theory of matter) has yet to be achieved. String theory is the most well-known reconciliation attempt and this theory (or actually “set of theories” because there are a huge number of related theories) suggests that all matter/energy/fields are really tiny strings vibrating in many dimensions. There are many problems, however, with string theory, as described by Lee Smolin in his 2006 book The Trouble With Physics.
My point here is not, however, to survey all the candidates for a “general unified theory.” Rather, my point is to highlight that we really don’t know — still — what the heck this is.
But there is a solution. The solution is more philosophical than physical, even though there’s really not a separation between these two endeavors because philosophy’s role is to truly generalize science. And we don’t need to get hung up on the terms — matter, energy, fields, strings, etc. — to get to that solution.
For example, if we consider energy to be the most fundamental reality behind the apparent solidity of matter, it suddenly becomes very difficult to define what energy “really” is. The discussion becomes a word game. We can define energy by using yet more words. If we’re trying to explain the apparent solidity around us, the apparent solidity that our senses present to us, we can label it “matter,” as is the usual convention. Or we can label it “condensed energy” or we can use both terms. Or we can describe it as “really” tiny vibrating strings, when we look all the way down. We could even label the “true” reality behind our senses “Ideas,” as Plato did and many Idealist philosophers since Plato have done.
What really matters, however, is not the terminology but the conceptual placeholder. What are we trying to explain? In this case we’re trying to explain the apparent solidity of the objective world. Philosophers like Alfred North Whitehead and Arthur Koestler, the Hungarian novelist and polymath, have recognized this difficulty and opted to use more general terms that will remain accurate and useful no matter what terms our current physical theories prefer.
For Whitehead, the ultimate constituents of reality are “actual entities.” An actual entity is just another name, but it’s very different than traditional views of “matter” or “energy.” An actual entity is a general description for an event. An event is a happening, a becoming. So the actual entity is very different than the traditional notions of matter or energy. An actual entity never exists outside of time. It’s a process, not a thing. Time — duration — is built into the definition.
Whitehead’s “actual entity” is thus a more complete description of fundamental reality because it necessarily implies that no physical thing exists outside of time. All actual things, to be actual, which means they are perceivable or “physical,” must exist in time. We can conceptually freeze objects. We can image an arrow frozen in mid-flight, hanging in space. But this is just a reflection of our imaginations, not a reflection of reality. Similarly, modern physics often imagines that the ultimate constituents of matter could in actuality be frozen in place and given a name, independent of time. Physics takes the approach of asking the universe to “just please hold still for a second so that we can study you.”
But it never does. The universe is always in motion, always becoming. Time is always proceeding forward. It is, then, a mistake to conceptually separate matter from time and to believe that this conceptual separation is indicative of reality.
Arthur Koestler coined another term that is perhaps even more general than Whitehead’s actual entities. Koestler described a “holon” as a universal unit of organization that is both a part and a whole. Koestler writes:
“A part, as we generally use the word, means something fragmentary and incomplete, which by itself would have no legitimate existence. On the other hand, there is a tendency among holists to use the word ‘whole’ or ‘Gestalt’ as something complete in itself which needs no further explanation. But wholes and parts in this absolute sense do not exist anywhere, either in the domain of living organisms or of social organizations. What we find are intermediary structures on a series of levels in ascending order of complexity, each of which has two faces looking in opposite directions: the face turned toward the lower levels is that of an autonomous whole, the one turned upward that of a dependent part.”
Koestler’s holon is a very useful explanatory concept that can be used to describe any level of reality. It can also be used outside of physics to describe social organization or biological structures.
Holons and actual entities are, then, the most general of terms to explain the apparent solidity around us. For Whitehead and Koestler, all actual entities and all (physical) holons have an accompanying experience. This is more than a re-labeling. Holons and actual entities do a far better job of explaining the solidity around us because they also explain our relationship, as conscious beings, to that solidity. Each actual entity is, according to Whitehead, a “drop of experience.”
If all things are actual entities, then all things have experience. Ergo: Experience goes all the way down. And up. This is where we return to the theme of this series of articles: absent-minded science. Today’s prevailing physical theories have such a hard time explaining consciousness because they subscribe to a view of matter that from the outset excludes mind.
Whitehead, Koestler, Griffin, and other panpsychists have realized that our explanations of solidity had to be revised in order to adequately explain our place in that solidity, the universe around us.
Now, back to my opening theme. I’m still infatuated with Whitehead because his ideas are, as mentioned, logically coherent, empirically adequate, and come from such a respected intellect. But I’ve realized since my initial infatuation that Whitehead is one in a long line of comprehensive thinkers that includes Heraclitus, Aristotle, Plato, Plotinus, Spinoza, Leibniz, Kant, Schopenhauer, Locke, Russell, James, Royce, etc., all the way to the modern era with such key figures as Ken Wilber, David Chalmers, etc. I’ve also realized that thinkers who I at first dismissed as silly, such as the idealists Berkeley, Hegel, Schelling, etc., were actually getting to many of the same truths. They just use different language.
The terms don’t matter as much as what these terms point to. Whether we call our philosophy “idealism” or “materialism” or “panpsychism,” we are trying to explain the same thing: reality, this. Some approaches are better than others—but our criteria are themselves subjective. I have highlighted empirical adequacy, logical consistency, and intellectual pedigree here. But other criteria could be used and different conclusions reached.
I’m still highly partial to Whitehead and his co-thinkers, and see process philosophy as the most sophisticated philosophical system around, but my love has been extended to other great thinkers and my understanding is better off for it.
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Tam Hunt is a philosopher, lawyer, and biologist. He lives in Santa Barbara and keeps a blog called Thought, Spirit, Politik.
Comments
"An actual entity never exists outside of time."
and
"Time is always proceeding forward."
--Hunt
As you well know, Einstein showed that time is a fallacious concept which is to be replaced by spacetime. Kinda ruins your whole piece, eh?
Oh, and mentioning that charlatan Griffen really threw a spanner into the whole thing.
SezMe (anonymous profile)
December 27, 2010 at 2:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Earnest Humility
It seems to me that time is so different from space that it is laughable to suspect that the two should be commensurable, especially as computed upon orthogonal, space-like/abstractly reduced and spatially-represented axes, e.g.: x, y, z, etc., and t.
Upon further reflection, I have come to understand that the essential aspect of human consciousness is that it is abjectly just so comic that humans - Einstein, Whitehead, Bohr, Goedel, Feynman, et al., notoriously, have flaunted this comedy so as to clang the clarion of the limits of human-specific, earth-bound, evolutionarily-derived, biologic consciousness that somehow is stuck in time.
Simply, I challenge any human to comfortably report a sense of what anything can be meaningfully understood to be “before” time started, or, in other terms, what something without a beginning is; contrariwise, what the meaning of the beginning (or in a lesser sense, the end) of time is. Infinite spatial contexts, while complex, I submit, are not remotely so troubling, nor so counter-intuitive to the human consciousness..
The bottom line (in any of string theory’s 10 space-like dimensions) is that human consciousness, including notions of reason, cause /effect, the arrow of time, etc., are so self-evidently time-specious as to be laughable. Ha! Ha! Ha!
In other words, if we cannot make sense of either the beginning or the end of what our best thinkers think about time, we are screwed when it comes to any notion that we can come to grips with "what is."
Have you ever considered why it is that the mathematics favored by the leading theorists at UCSB's Kavli institute under Dr. Gross conjure multiple, non-intuitive, space-like, one-dimensional, string-populated dimensions, but no additional time-like dimensions?
And the joke is on ??? us, or them who get that time is the joke???
CMG/Zwoirle
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zwoirle (anonymous profile)
December 27, 2010 at 10:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The whole has an existence independent of the parts, and feeds back to affect and determine the nature of the parts. Similarly, the parts have an existence independent of the whole, and feed back to affect and determine the nature of the whole. These polar processes create contradictions, that attract attention. The attentive observer perceives a sequence of contradictions and calls that sequence "time."
nvrglty (anonymous profile)
December 28, 2010 at 12:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
SezMe, there is in fact a thriving debate about the ontological implications of relativity theory with respect to the nature of time and space. There are many different interpretations of the mathematics and data, and what's known as the Einstein/Minkowski interpretation is the mainstream view, but not the only view. Another view, which I am partial to, is the Lorentzian view, named after Hendrik Lorentz, a Dutch Nobel Prize winning physicist who mentored Einstein. Lorentz interpreted the Michelson-Morley data and other similar data as stemming from the ether - not a material akin to the "luminiferous ether," but more akin instead to Newton's absolute space. Rather than the speed of light being the only absolute - as is the case in Einstein/Minkowski's interpretation - space/ether is absolute for Lorentz. So whereas for Einstein/Minkowski, space and time must be malleable as a consequence of the postulated absolute nature of the speed of light, space and time are not malleable for Lorentz. Rather, the speed of light is malleable depending on one's frame of reference. And time remains inviolate in an ontological sense. Lorentz's view has yet to be generalized, as Einstein did for special relativity, however, so the debate is by no means over.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 28, 2010 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think any such aether must now be viewed as having been "created" by the expanding and cooling CBR, which is just a little bit non-uniform or non-absolute due to the observed (and genuine?) anisotropies. Are you suggesting there is some pre-existing isotropic aether, which preceded the singularity of the Big Bang? If so, is such a concept useful and does it have any practical ramifications? How could we ever know or prove such an aether existed? (BTW, where did Mr. Hunt go?)
nvrglty (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2010 at 2:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
nvrglty, Lorentz's ether pre-existed the Big Bang, though he did not of course have anything to say about the Big Bang because this idea was developed long after his death. Lorentz's ether is akin to the ground of being from which all things spring and I envision it as an infinite grid that acts as a 3D TV screen. Just like a 2D TV screen produces a 2D moving image, the ether produces a 3D moving image. Relativistic effects like length contraction and time dilation (local only, not ontological) are consequences of movement through the ether. Wikipedia has a pretty good write up on Lorentzian relativity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_....
It is also worth noting that Einstein/Minkowski special relativity rests entirely on what are known as the "Lorentz transformations," the core mathematics. As the name suggests, Lorentz himself developed these equations in his earlier theory and Einstein borrowed them for his 1905 paper on special relativity.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2010 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
When I was an undergrad studying physics, one of my roommates was writing his treatise on relativity. He was a biology major, still shy of the math skills needed to understand special relativity, but he saw that as no barrier. He was going to prove Einstein wrong.
After a few months, he dropped the effort in frustration. He never changed his course of study to physics, was never able to appreciate the beauty of Einstein's theory, or understand why it became the accepted explanation (it did not require and "ether"). No, he would not allow himself to be "indoctrinated" by what he imagined was a political high priesthood.
Despite the movie "Good Will Hunting" an autodidact cannot have an educated, or even reasonable, opinion regarding these physical theories without years of advanced mathematical training. It would be like trying to study law in English, without being able to read or understand English.
Perhaps if Mr. Hunt would consult one of the theoretical physicists at UCSB, he could get valuable input and critique on his writing efforts. Publishing these long essays without any expert guidance is pretentious and misleading.
rambler (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2010 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I love philosophy (the love of knowledge), especailly epistemology; which many philosophers conveniently ignore. The problem with cosmology is an epistemological one, i.e., that our poor monkey brains were really not designed to grapple with such questions. The only "what is this" question our brains were designed by evolution to solve are questions such as "What is food?" "What is danger?" "What is belonging to the tribe?" and other Neolithic problems associated with survival,mating, and maintaining social contracts. The logic function of our brain, which may have developed as a way to discern sophisticated cheating in social contracts, has been used way beyond its original design. But even mathematics has its limits in describing what is real. Alas, our Neolithic brains are not equipped to directly perceive "reality" in its fundamental state. Such perception never provided a survival advantage.
Eckermann (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2010 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Eckerman, I don't think we possess "poor monkey brains" and I believe that, as Arthur C. Clarke once said, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Unfortunately, for many people the sciences are "sufficiently advanced" to be placed by them in the spiritual or magical realm, a place where all may dabble. Less fortunately still, the study of philosophy is too often regarded as a shortcut to understanding basic natural law, without the prerequisite understanding of its language.
When reality takes on a magical or spiritual aspect, that is purely perceptive. Enjoy it, but don't try to make it fit a set of beliefs that have no basis.
rambler (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2010 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sometimes being a "polymath" merely means being capable of displaying ignorance in many different areas of knowledge. Koestler's "pedigree" included his enthusiasm for the Lamarckian theory of evolution, levitation, and the cosmic significance of coincidences. His word-play, far from being an explanatory concept that can be used to describe any level of reality, in fact explains nothing.
pk (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2010 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rambler, either I am a complete idiot (entirely possible) or your post is incomprehensible. Enigmatic statements may sound profound, but seldom communicate and never make good arguments.
Eckermann (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2010 at 10:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rambler, some tenured professors of physics who generally support my interpretation of relativistic phenomena (I'll let you Google these yourself):
Franco Selleri, Universita di Bari ("Recovering the Lorentz Ether")
Reginald Cahill, University of Adelaide (many papers, but in particular "Unraveling Lorentz covariance and spacetime formalisms")
And a note I received in 2009 from Lee Smolin after I queried him about Lorentzian relativity: "By lorentz's interpretation, do you mean the idea that there really is a preferred frame and notion of time but it is hidden so the physics so far observed is lorentz invariant? I would say that this point of view is taken as a logical possibility by a number of thoughtful theorists, although the number who advocate it is fewer."
The common view is that Lorentzian relativity is empirically identical to Einstein/Minkowski relativity, therefore preferring one over the other comes down to broader, non-empirical considerations. However, Reg Cahill (a maverick to be sure) disagrees strongly and argues in many papers that they are in fact empirically distinguishable because contrary to the common view the ether has been detected many times over.
More generally, you are wrong to believe that it is impossible for those not trained for years in any particular discipline to understand that discipline: if one learns how to think and to learn one can teach oneself any discipline. No one teaches anyone else anything: we only teach ourselves through patience and diligence.
I've actually written two books on these topics over the last few years, which aren't published yet, so I'm probably as conversant on these issues as most physicists (admittedly minus the mathematics, for the most part). But philosophy of physics is like any other branch of philosophy in that it is built on certain assumptions and basic rules of logic. Thus if one understands the assumptions and basic rules of logic one can develop one's own views on these topics.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2010 at 11:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
pk, I'm surprised you would be so dismissive. I suggest you check out Ken Wilber's Sex, Ecology, Spirituality for an impressive expansion of Koestler's holon theory. I don't agree with everything Wilber writes, to be sure, but he has many great ideas and he also writes very well.
More generally, as I write in my essay, the "holon" idea is very useful because it re-frames reality not as consisting fundamentally of mini billiard balls that bounce around and collide with each other, but instead as a different kind of structure entirely. And holons, by recognizing the fundamentality of the part/whole relation (central to all areas of philosophy and phyics), provide an immensely useful tool for understanding reality.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 29, 2010 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"...because contrary to the common view the ether has been detected many times over." Is that so? Why don't you detect some credible, peer-reviewed reports to support that?
It seems the internet is now a venue for disseminating the raw, unedited "work" of pseudo-scientists and deluded dilettantes. Republican "science" certainly relies on this fact in its denial of climate change.
You may enjoy reading about physics and the famous arguments, but you cannot study, comprehend, or truly argue the theory of it, without knowing the language. The language of physics is mathematics.
You remind me of the radio advertisement for an MBA course taught "from a Christian perspective, without the financial component." Did you get one of these? Will you be writing about business next?
Writing books does not make you credible, it just makes you busy. Your editor has my sympathy.
rambler (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at midnight (Suggest removal)
"...because contrary to the common view the ether has been detected many times over." Is that so? Why don't you detect some credible, peer-reviewed reports to support that?
It seems the internet is now a venue for disseminating the raw, unedited "work" of pseudo-scientists and self-deluded dilettantes.
You may enjoy reading about physics and the famous arguments, but you cannot study, comprehend, or reasonably argue theory, without knowing the language. The language of physics is mathematics.
"No one teaches anyone else anything: we only teach ourselves through patience and diligence." I guess you ran out of patience and decided not to learn the language before writing two books on the topic.
Writing books does not make you credible, or conversant (except in the loosest sense), it just makes you busy. Your editor has my sympathy. Your readers have my condolences.
rambler (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 12:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
tam.
Why are you surprised that I'm dismissive of someone whose intellectual pedigree includes an enthusiasm for the Lamarckian theory of evolution, levitation, and the cosmic significance of coincidences?
Philosophy of physics is not physics. And "minus the mathematics" means minus the physics.
pk (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Because, pk, I would think you are sophisticated enough (based on our many previous discussions) to assess an idea independent from any perceived shortcomings of its originator. If you don't like the holon concept, tell me why you don't like it, instead of criticizing Koestler.
And by the way, you'll enjoy critiquing Part V of this series of essays, Sex, Psyche and Evolution, in which I argue that neo-Lamarckian arguments are again becoming popular and that Darwin was himself far more of a Lamarckian than people generally realize today (read Origin of Species, for example, or The Descent of Man, to see for yourself).
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Rambler, if you haven't already I highly recommend you read Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions and Popper's The Logic of Scientific Discovery. These two philosophers of science present different views on how science is conducted but the key commonality (which everyone who practices science already knows) is that science is a very human process. It's not all about pure reason and enlightenment. Many other factors hold sway and it is only under the weight of gradually accumulated evidence that old paradigms give way to new.
Also read Brian Greene's The Elegant Universe or The Fabric of the Cosmos to gain a feel for the history of physics. What becomes immediately apparent is the groping history of how scientists develop theories - and then reject them in favor of new ones.
If you pay attention to physics you are surely aware that there are a growing number of major anomalies in general relativity (bore hole anomalies, Pioneer anomales, galactic rotation, universal expansion, etc.). The latter two anomalies have given rise to the suggested fixes for general relativity of dark matter and dark energy, respectively. But these have a very ad hoc feel to them and there are now many legitimate competitors to general relativity, including John Moffat's theory described in his recent book Reinventing Gravity, or MOND, a theory suggested by Mordehai Milgrom.
As I mentioned previously, Einstein's special relativity consists of the same transformations (a set of four rather simple equations) that Lorentz used in his theory of relativity, which are in fact known as the Lorentz transformations. But obviously they interpreted the physical significance of these equations very differently.
Beyond relativity theory, we have string theory competing with loop quantum gravity and many other suggested theories of quantum gravity ("theories of everything"), as described wonderfully in Lee Smolin's 2006 book The Trouble With Physics.
More generally - and this is a very key point - philosophy of physics and physics are inextricably intertwined. When a physicist asserts that general relativity means that spacetime is curved by matter, he is making an ontological and thus philosophical claim that he believes follows from the mathematics. That is, an interpretation. Every physical theory has two components: the mathematical formalisms and the interpretation of those formalisms. One could not understand an iota of mathematics and still make valuable contributions on interpreting the formalisms.
The role of philosophy is to generalize science - that is, to make it universally applicable. But there is no dividing line between philosophy and science. The perceived barrier is ersatz and a product primarily of the modern tendency to require specialization in academia.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tam
If you use Whitehead's pedigree to recommend his ideas, why can't I use Koestler's to disrecommend his?
Darwin was not a Lamarckian: http://scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoug...
pk (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tam, do you answer every question with a broad essay? You should strive for more depth. Your disdain for "specialization" is actually a symptom of laziness - you cannot be bothered to learn the fundamentals. Instead, you wish to skip ahead and be a professor.
I asked you to cite a credible, peer-reviewed report of ether measurement.
It's both amusing and annoying to read your declarations on physics, and your interpretation of the role of philosophy, "...to generalize science."
The curvature of spacetime is not a "philosophical claim" but an observable fact.
I have no argument with your desire to read and enjoy broad general books about physics. Unfortunately, you seem to believe that reading about theory without understanding its derivation can somehow propel you from the audience to the stage with no steps in between.
I hope that your broad reading will someday stimulate you to take the dive and actually develop some depth of knowledge. When that day comes, you should find good teachers who can guide you and help you interpret the material. Before that day comes, you should turn down the microphone and step away from the podium.
rambler (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Because, pk, I mentioned Whitehead's pedigree as only one criterion of three key criteria - and the last one.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
PS. I'll wait to respond to the Darwin/Lamarck issues until Part V of my series appears ("Sex, Psyche and Evolution").
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rambler, you are in the grips of what I call "naive scientism." Your statement that the curvature of spacetime from gravity is "observed fact" reveals this. If all physicists were also in the grip of naive scientism, there would never be any progress in physics. And thankfully there is progress because there is always a sizeable minority that doesn't accept the status quo as the gospel truth.
Are you familiar with the search for a theory of quantum gravity? This is all about meshing quantum mechanics and general relativity. Quantum field theory has for the most part meshed the other three fundamental forces with quantum mechanics. But gravity has resisted integration.
The problem is that quantum mechanics and general relativity are fundamentally incompatible for a number of reasons that are described quite well in David Bohm's Wholeness and the Implicate Order.
So which is right? It's quite likely that both theories will be significantly modified when an eventual reconciliation is found. And it's my view that general relativity will be the theory that gives up more ground because the key feature of general relativity - background independence - will probably have to be jettisoned.
This brings us back to the ether, which is the "background" in "background-dependent" theories. But the name itself is unimportant. It's the concept that's important.
I mentioned Cahill previously in relation to his arguments for the anisotropic speed of light. He relies on Miller's work in the 1930s and his own substantial body of work, as well as a number of other physicists who have published their work in peer-reviewed journals. Miller's work in particular is important, even though it has been overlooked for decades by most scientists.
Here's a 2007 paper by Cahill with the relevant citations in the References: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf....
Do I think Cahill is right? I don't know. He's a bit of a crank and clearly frustrated at not being taken more seriously by his colleagues. He publishes much of his work in dissident physics journals like Apeiron. But I do know he's raising some very interesting questions.
Regardless, Cahill's arguments about the ether are not essential to preferring Lorentz over Einstein. Recall that Lorentz asserted that detecting the ether was in principle impossible because of length contraction and time dilation. This is why most physicists believe that there are no empirical bases for choosing Lorentz over Einstein or vice versa. But Cahill disagrees with this in that he has asserted for years, with Miller, etc., that they are in fact empirically distinguishable based on their own light anisotropy experiments.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 4:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
cont. Rambler, please do read some of the papers and books I've suggested. I think you'll find them enjoyable and they may in fact help you to change your mind on these key issues.
As for your broader comment about my expertise or lack thereof, keep in mind I am an academic - I teach at the Bren School part-time, so I am quite familiar with academia. These essays go beyond my "official" expertise, but that is not relevant here. I'm offering thoughts on areas I've read about for decades. You don't need a degree in law to have an opinion on abortion or criminal punishment. And nor do I need a degree in physics to have an opinion on physics. I'm going to offer a more concrete example of differing interpretations in physics in my next comment.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rambler, I mentioned previously that every physical theory has two parts: 1) mathematical formalisms and 2) interpretation of the formalisms. The first part is self-explanatory. The second means that every mathematical symbol must be assigned some corresponding physical feature, or if not, an explanation as to why. In other words, equations without defined terms are meaningless. The defined terms are the components of the more general interpretation of each physical theory.
To make this concrete, let's look in more detail at Einstein's theory of special relativity. He used the Lorentz transformations in his theory, which were developed by... Lorentz in his own relativistic theory. They interpreted these formalisms quite differently, and this is the key point.
Here is a link to the equations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_....
They simply translate a given coordinate system into a new set of coordinates such that electromagnetic laws remain the same for any observer moving in an inertial frame (this means moving uniformly, as opposed to under acceleration or gravity, which is covered by general relativity).
So the mathematics are quite straightforward. They allow us to apply the same electromagnetic equations in different inertial frames of reference.
But why does this work? What is it about physical reality that allows these equations to work?
This is where interpretations come in. Einstein's 1905 paper on special relativity famously dismissed the ether as "superfluous" in light of his interpretation of the Lorentz transformations. This is the case because if we accept that the speed of light is constant for all observers, as Einstein postulated, then the transformations follow naturally from this postulate.
But we can just as well postulate an ether that leads to length contraction and time dilation as bodies move through the ether at different speeds. Which is what Lorentz argued in his interpretation.
Hence the debate.
Check out Ludwik Kostro's very interesting book Einstein and the Ether for a full history of these issues.
Hope this helps.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"And thankfully there is progress because there is always a sizeable minority that doesn't accept the status quo as the gospel truth."
-- TamHunt
Oh, puleezze. No serious scientist ever thinks an existing theory is the "gospel truth". All scientific ideas are subject to revision as new data are obtained. To think this attitude is a minority one is surely the naivety on display here.
SezMe (anonymous profile)
December 30, 2010 at 6:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tam, I'm sure you've read books "for decades" and written plenty of unpublished stuff. But you drop equations like a gossip drops names, talk about transformations you do not understand how to do, and have the precociousness to ask why they work?
You still have not cited a single credible peer-reviewed report of ether detection.
There are serious people doing hard work, why aren't you among them? Dilettantes are a dime a dozen in the age of Google and Wikipedia - any armchair intellectual can recite and regurgitate snippets, and if something like the citation I requested does exist, you would have given it by now.
rambler (anonymous profile)
December 31, 2010 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Rambler, check again: I mentioned and cited many references in my previous comment. Try reading my comments closely and thinking before responding. I'm engaging in dialogue with you because I'm hoping you may learn something. Take this as an opportunity and drop the attitude.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
December 31, 2010 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Okay. I've gone back over your comments and citations. Nowhere have you given us a report of ether measurement, much less a credible, peer-reviewed citation. If I've somehow missed it, please cite it specifically.
Arp runs Apeiron, and he's as much of a crank as Cahill and Selleri. Miller is the best you offer, a truly great physicist, yet it's difficult to see how his theories support your ether rehabilitation.
Here's a link you should read: http://www.meme.com.au/theoria/proces...
Don't give up your day job just yet.
rambler (anonymous profile)
December 31, 2010 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rambler, I guess we're making small progress: glad you found the references to Cahill, Selleri and Miller. Now, check the link again to the Cahill paper on the Marinov experiment. He lists in the introduction to that paper all the peer-reviewed experiments that have in his view found evidence for the modern ether concept.
As I stated previously, however, Cahill could be completely wrong and it wouldn't harm the Lorentzian view of relativity at all because Lorentz himself argued that we can't in principle detect the ether. Cahill disagrees with this for the reasons he describes in the Marinov paper and many other papers.
Also check out the Kostro book I mentioned, Einstein and the Ether, and you'll learn that contrary to the very widely held view Einstein himself argued strongly for the existence of a relativistic ether from 1916 onward, after suggesting in his key 1905 paper on special relativity that it was "superfluous." Einstein called this variously the "new ether," "total field" and some other terms. It was in developing general relativity and through dialogue with Lorentz that he came to realize that we cannot in fact dispel the ether.
Einstein stated in 1920:
"In 1905, I was of the opinion that it was no longer allowed to speak about the ether in physics. This opinion, however, was too radical…. It is still permissible, as before, to introduce a medium filling all space and to assume that the electromagnetic fields (and matter as well) are its states. But, it is not permitted to attribute to this medium a state of motion at each point, by analogy with ponderable matter. This ether may not be conceived as consisting of particles that can be individually tracked in time."
More recently, Nobel Prize winner Frank Wilczek has argued in The Lightness of Being, Mass, Ether and the Unification of Forces, for the existence of an ether as a "cosmic superconductor." He states:
"No presently known form of matter has the right properties [to play the role of the ether]. So we don’t really know what this new material ether is. We know its name: the Higgs condensate, after Peter Higgs, a Scots physicist who pioneered some of these ideas. The simplest possibility … is that it’s made from one new particle, the so-called Higgs particle. But the [ether] could be a mixture of several materials. … [T]here are good reasons to suspect that a whole new world of particles is ripe for discovery, and that several of them chip in to the cosmic superconductor, a.k.a the Higgs condensate. "
I think Wilczek is off-base in suggesting that the ether is a form of matter - the point of the ether, in my conception, is that it is the substrate, the ground of being, from which all matter and everything else springs.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2011 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rambler, as for your link, it's quite interesting. I don't find much to disagree with in Smith's views on Cahill's process physics. I've read much of Cahill's work, including his 2003 book, Process Physics.
Smith's post is a sophisticated analysis of what may be a truly ground-breaking - and paradigm-busting - development in modern physics. Cahill is far from alone in suggesting that general relativity led us astray for a century. If you'd like to learn about other competing theories, email me at tam dot hunt at gmail and I'll send you my draft book chapters on these issues.
Smith's concern about the status of science as a whole if modern physics were to "admit" that general relativity is simply wrong is, in my view, unfounded. Modern science has been wrong many times and has obviously survived relatively unscathed. The real proof in the pudding is technology, not science, because technology works and science itself is without technology just intellectual masturbation.
Smith is wrong, however, about Kuhn's views on the progress of science. One of Kuhn's key points is that science does NOT necessarily proceed from one paradigm to a more accurate paradigm, progressing asymptotically toward truth with each iteration. Rather, he paints a picture of a much more messy process. While I do believe in the notion of asymptotic truth, there are obviously many mis-steps and cul-de-sacs along the way. General relativity will in my view probably be viewed eventually as a very interesting cul-de-sac of 20th Century science.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2011 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The fact the science is a messy process does not mean that we should embrace messes and call them science.
You've fallen in love with the ether, still considered by most physicists to be a construct made obsolete by space-time, because you want tie it in with your "... ground of being, from which all matter and everything else springs." You might as well add a Great Pumpkin and a Virgin Birth to your mess, and forget about trying to make modern science part of it.
Your arguments remind me of the Intelligent Design arguments. Your use of obsolete theories, work rejected by responsible journals, and insistence on the use of cranks for reference makes me think you have taken a lesson from the Climate Change Denialists.
As Smith points out, every space probe we place confirms the predictions of Einstein's theory. The fact that Lorentz invented the mathematical formalisms used in Special Relativity does not mean that Einsteins somehow stole his theory. Lorentz' ether theory requires a privileged reference frame, which no measurement has been able to deduce, though this should have been possible given the available cosmological observations and data.
The definition of ether continually changes. At some point perhaps the cranks will go to bed when we equate it with space-time.
Finally, you say that "...science itself is without technology just intellectual masturbation." This crude statement exposes your amazingly pedestrian attitude and lack of understanding. Science is about understanding Nature, technology is about harnessing it. One does not always follow from the other. You should stick to talking about mental masturbation.
rambler (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2011 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
And here I thought we were making progress in our dialogue. Ah well.
You've missed the point of Smith's analysis. You should read it again. As for Cassini, it is one of many spacecraft flyby anomalies that remain unresolved in general relativity. Cahill's suggested solution: drop the assumption that light speed is isotropic:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source...
For another area of serious problems with relativity theory, note that quantum mechanics contradicts relativity theory in many ways, particularly with quantum entanglement (found to be at least 10,000 times faster than the speed of light by Salart and his colleagues in 2008).
The search for a theory of quantum gravity has been so difficult because these two areas of physics are in so many ways incompatible.
TamHunt (anonymous profile)
January 2, 2011 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tam, are you are playing to your audience? "Ah well?" Is that an attempt at condescension? Don't be such a sophomore.
No credible peer-reviewed reports to support you, and now you want to re-interpret Smith's analysis of Cahill? Did you ever wonder why some people cannot get published in Physical Review?
You can keep publishing nonsense and unqualified opinions, and I will keep refuting you. Your audience does not deserve to be misled.
Give it up. If Jim Hartle is still giving lectures at UCSB, you should attend a few. Ask him about your physics theories.
rambler (anonymous profile)
January 2, 2011 at 6:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have always thought of religion in the same light ... they teach a different path , but are all aiming for the same end.
RLP (anonymous profile)
January 1, 2012 at 5:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)