Illegal Immigration Is Cheating

"This caused Mexican President Felipe Calderón to say, in a joint session of Congress in our Capitol, that he 'disagrees with the law in Arizona, ' "

Wouldn't it be nice if Calderón would address what needs to be done to make conditions better in Mexico so people wouldn't feel so desperate that they are willing to risk being beaten/raped by smugglers, or dying in the desert heat, in order to get into the U.S.?

As usual, yet another Mexican president blames the U.S. for his failed policies. I realize Calderón is just one person, but the Elephant In the Living Room is the fact that all the factions involved refuse to deal with the fact that it is ultimately up to the people of Mexico to fix their country.

All the open border does is enable the problems down there to continue and people on both sides of the border are getting the usual double-talk from their leaders.

Open borders? Genetically modified foods? Wars? Banking bail outs? Blowout in the Gulf, lies? If you could stop one of these things you would be more powerful than the people behind them and they run the world. So it ain't going to happen, not without a military coup against the Bankers in London and that is never going to happen!

The Mexicans are brutal to their illegal immigrants. A baby born in Mexico doesn't get automatic citizenship. It seems disingenuous for the Mexican president to criticize American immigration policy while their immigration policy is so much worse.

What is the argument here? every single alien "BROKE THE LAW!" Our Government, Republican & Democrat, have allowed the invasion of 30 million criminals and is the largest invasion of any Nation, in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution.

This refusal to abide by our Constitution should be classified as Treason as grounds for IMPEACHMENT & trials for Treason!

Not only have they allowed the invasion, they force American tax payers to pay Billions of dollars to provide Welfare, Prison, Educate the invaders children,free medical care, at the same time the invading horde break numerous laws, massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture and standard of living while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens WAKE UP PEOPLE! They walked,rode,swam and drove over here, they can do the same going home! taking thier anchors with them! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btj6Ie...
http://immigrationcounters.com/
http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives...
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldrid...

Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should vacate America,

1. $14 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare to illegal aliens.(that' s Billion with a 'B') http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fisc...

3. $7.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fisc...

4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they still cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPT...

5. $27 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPT...

6. $3 Million Dollars 'PER DAY' is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. That's $1.2 Billion a year. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPT...

7. 28% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPT...

8. $190 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. - http://transcripts. cnn.com/TRANSCRI PTS/0610/ 29/ldt.01. html

9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPT...

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. http://transcripts. cnn.com/TRANSCRI PTS/0606/ 12/ldt.01. html

11. During the year 2005, there were 8 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border with as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from other terrorist countries. Over 10,000 of those were middle-eastern terrorists. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine, crack, Guns, and marijuana crossed into the U.S.from the southern border. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute./.... deportation

13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $65 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin, to their families and friends. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States! http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html

"This caused Mexican President Felipe Calderón to say, in a joint session of Congress in our Capitol, that he 'disagrees with the law in Arizona, "

Kind of like a WEASEL ticked off because the chicken coop is locked.

Calderon is a very impressive idiot, so embarrassing this man is, but then so is his country! (Sin vergüenza pendejo!)

If this government would allow real Americans to take over the Immigration/border conflict, within one year the situation would be solved.

People like Glenn Spencer, Jim Gilchrist, Tom Tancredo,
Terry Anderson, Barbara Coe, Lupe Moreno.

This government is just pussyfooting around and we all know it.

I'm curious as to why the Independent printed this as a "voices", not just a Letter to the Editor. Did the Indy decide that it was ok to give a prominent position to an anti-illegal-alien piece because the author is "Cuban-born"?

Or perhaps some advertisers have indicated discomfort with the Indy's hard-line anti-white, pro-illegal alien, anti-assimilationist editorial positions?

I don't really understand or agree with how the author characterizes this law as being republican-pro and democrat-against.

But aside from that, the law is virtually the same law that is in existence. Why not enforce the first law before enacting a whole new law?

And there's no two-ways around it, the law causes unfair profiling. My husband is a legal immigrant who is becoming a citizen this year. With blond hair and blue eyes, he'd likely never be asked for proof of residence under this law. And that is what I have a problem with.

If the lawmakers who passed this law in Arizona would have not used the term Mexican in so much of their rhetoric I might feel that there was some genuine feeling that they were talking about ALL illegal immigrants, but it's obvious what is going on here.

Now, this is not to say I'm for illegal immigration. I'm not at all. I do believe there are some instances of grey areas, like people who were brought here as children. I also think that certain economies thrive on illegal immigration because that's just how it is.

So I say, let Arizona do whatever they want. Let them run illegals out of town. When they can't run their boutique hotels or staff their restaurants and their economy falters, they can always go back over the border and have a job fair.

How many $ do illegal immigrants get from welfare? Nearly zero.
http://blogs.chron.com/immigration/ar...
Most studies support the statement that illegal aliens receive less in benefits than they contribute to the kitty, although it is true that states may end up on the short end of that stick vs the feds.
Let's stick to facts. Yes, illegal immigration is a problem, mostly because of the mass hysteria surrounding it that needs to be countered with facts. Painting them as criminals (unsupportable), welfare cheats (an outright fallacy), lazy (not in my experience), or "out to get us" (the tired old victim role of the right) simply does not advance the conversation. I'm all for fixing what is broken, but doing the right way and for the right reasons. They, like us who simply by the luck of the draw happened to have been born here, are humans. Empathy would be a good place to start looking for solutions.

Native1: I agree with every thing you said until the last paragraph. The reason I say this is because before the mass influx of illegal immigrants, businesses seemed to do quite well. I would also add that these same businesses exist in states with low immigrant populations. Furthermore, countries such as Japan and Norway (two that come to mind right away) do well without using cheap labor.

I suggest that readers click into the website provided by tegrat above. that provided some good facts.

Although the commenters on that site did not seem to like the facts and made statements such as stevo1.

All the above is true and yet the people of Santa Barbara support and keep electing people that continue to support Santa Barbara as a "Sanctuary City" that declares we will not enforce or obey the immigration laws. This is insane and we need to change the political climate.

Why don't we as cities vote on it?

I am in complete accordance with the enforcement of the law in AZ. People naturally assume that every Mexican is being stopped but they're not. I go to AZ at least every 2-3 months and they're really only questioning your immigration status if you can't understand what they're saying, have a thick accent, don't have ID on you when they've stopped you for another reason, etc.

The president of our country should be tried with Treason! How dare he not enfore our existing laws and allow criminals into this country and not do a thing about it!

As far as illegals supposedly not receiving gov't aid such as Section 8 or welfare..that's BS from what I've seen growing up and currently. I've personally seen illegals receive gov't aid because the gov't has to help the children of the illegals that were born here. Because the children are young, they have to give the parents the money to pay the rent, buy the food and clothes, pay the electric bill, etc. My neighbor's parents are illegal and they receive Section 8 and have a nicer home than I do! Ridiculous! Of course they want to come here...we refuse to kick them out and if they have children born here, we welcome them with open arms and a pocket full of cash. Also, the children of these illegals get free lunch at school and thousands of dollars in scholarships for college! RIDICULOUS! If you have a last name that's hispanic, you basically get free college education. I have a european last name and I got NOTHING, yet my Mexican classmates receive scholarships because on paper, their parents make hardly anything (since taxpayers are paying for their food, rent, clothes, cars, etc.). This wouldn't fly in Mexico so why should we let it fly here?

Bill, you may well be right about the businesses thriving, particularly in this economy when there are more citizens willing to take jobs they wouldn't have considered doing 10 years ago. I guess that will remain to be seen.

I think, though, that when lawmakers (or pontificators like us, lol) talk about effects like these, they tend to underestimate just how far-reaching the integration into our economy and social structure illegal immigration extends, for better or worse.

This essay is absurd.

Immigration to the US is a direct result of global capitalism, not an underhanded workaround. Free movement of people is the logical complement of free movement of capital (Dignidad Rebelde has a slogan "If Capital Can Cross Borders, So Can We!").

What the feds are supposedly cheating against is never explained. Other nations? Local governments? Irrational laws that should have never been passed? Certainly not the immigrants themselves, who are just trying to survive. It's depressing to see only a few commenters above treat the immigrants as real people.

Typo - Nobody said illegal immigrants were not real people. But they're breaking the law and a lot of the illegal immigrants are already felons in their own country. We don't really treat people in jail or prison as "real people" do we? We are not denying their right to live, we're saying don't come into another country illegally and have disrespect for the laws and not learn the language and pay taxes. Other countries would jail them for 10 years and force hard labor if they came across a border illegally.

"but they're breaking the law"
Because they have been placed in an untenable situation and are fighting for their survival.

"a lot of the illegal immigrants are already felons in their own country"
Where is the data to support this?

"don't come into another country illegally and have disrespect for the laws and not learn the language and pay taxes"
That the US does not have an official language is a fact we should all be very proud of. Meanwhile, immigrants do pay most taxes, and must also endure the costs involved with being labelled "illegal."

If we stopped federally subsidizing farming in the US people would actually be able to afford to grow crops and pick them in their own country. This concept will probably go over the heads of most Californians though, as it deals with the subjects of Math and Economics.

Native1, I know it may seem PC to not want to profile people, or not want to refer to illegal aliens as "Mexicans" but the truth is: our illegal aliens come from Mexico! In such overwhelming numbers that illegals from other parts of the world are hardly worth mentioning.

And yes I know some of them are originally from El Salvador, Guatemala blah blah blah. These people arent filling up the business class one way flights though are they?? They come through Mexico. I dont have a problem referring to people that come from Mexico as Mexican, regardless of where they started their life.

So: Lets get the millions of illegal Mexicans out of the US, and then we can start hunting down those pesky 50-60 Germans.

Rcobban - completely agree with you! Especially in regards to the farming your own food except most Californians wouldn't know what that's about!
Typo - Do you think they come to the US and magically join gangs, buy/sell drugs, kidnap people, etc? Read a newspaper other than the SB News Pressor watch some tv that's not broadcasted from SB/Goleta. Then maybe you'll learn what's really going on out there.

Quick, lynch this guy! He's getting down to essentials, fer chrisakes! How un-American is THAT???

rcobban nailed part of the issue. Illegal immigration took off as soon as Nafta kicked in. One of the consequences of NAFTA was our subsidizing of corn put Mexico's corn growers at a massive disadvantage. Our government subsidies puts our corn costs at 2/3 the cost of theirs in Mexico. Now that we have effectively killed the Mexican corn industry what happens? People migrate to look for work.

Kill the corn subsidy and this will diminish.

Now I do find it funny that this article is written by a cuban talking about fair and legal immigration. How ironic that all a cuban needs to do is to step foot on our shores and declare political asylum and he is welcomed with open arms. A haitian, a mexican, any other country . . . NOPE. Try fixing that as well.

But there are other issues with our immigration system and this law. This law is still crap because it is simple. If the person pulled over is checked for immigration and the system says he is not, he goes to jail. What makes you think the system is right all the time? There are NUMEROUS cases of ICE having terrible documentation on people. Recently there was a case in Texas with a 22 year old posing as a 16 year old high school student. The kid graduated from school in Florida and was playing in basketball tournaments. The teams in the tournament recognized him and HIS OLD coach even recognized him. He denied it. The school checked with ICE. ICE said he was not the same kid. This went on for two weeks and then they said he was the 22 year old. This would lock up that supposed illegal for 2 weeks.

Excellent to see Americans concerned about the degradation of their country. For a book on the subject try "Mexifornia: A State of Becoming." And as long as we don't secure the border we invite more of this (no, he didn't come thru the border but a whole bunch of them have!) As this fellow says: This is war. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/a...