<strong>TRAGIC TALE:</strong>  George Ied, in this photo (placed at a memorial) showing off a stomach full of quesadillas a friend had made, died Saturday morning after days on life support. He was brutally attacked and beaten unconscious, allegedly by four gang members who have been arrested and charged with his murder.

Paul Wellman

TRAGIC TALE: George Ied, in this photo (placed at a memorial) showing off a stomach full of quesadillas a friend had made, died Saturday morning after days on life support. He was brutally attacked and beaten unconscious, allegedly by four gang members who have been arrested and charged with his murder.

Man Beaten to Death on Walk Home

Recently Released Gator Rollers Accused of Attack on Milpas Street Employee

Thursday, October 21, 2010
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George Ied was walking home in the early morning hours of October 12 when he was brutally attacked and left lying on the sidewalk, unconscious.

Two brothers — both recently released from federal custody — were arrested within the hour. Another man was apprehended later that day, and a fourth three days afterward. All four were charged with attempted murder with a gang enhancement, and a charge of committing a crime to benefit a criminal street gang.

Tragically, on Saturday at around 3:30 a.m., Ied died in Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital. He was 37.

Monday morning, authorities amended the filed attempted murder charges against the four to murder charges, and the accused — Miguel and Ismael Parra, Steven Santana, and Michael Cardenas — all appeared in court Tuesday morning at an arraignment hearing. Their supporters flooded Department 8 for the arraignment, though the hearing ended up being brief. The judge set bail for Miguel Parra at $1 million, and none of the four entered a plea, instead continuing their hearing until November 9. If found guilty of the charges, the men could face life behind bars.

A service for Ied was to be held in the San Fernando Valley on Wednesday. People who knew Ied called him a “really, really sweet, gentle soul.” He was a hardworking man, Police Chief Cam Sanchez said, and didn’t have family in town. His brother lives in Ventura, friends said, and his parents live in Syria. A memorial has been set up inside Mi Fiesta Liquor on Milpas Street, where Ied was employed.

Police believe he was walking to his home on Salinas Street from work and was on the 1300 block of Punta Gorda Street, only a block away from his home, when he was punched, beaten, and stomped unconscious. Some said he was hit more than 100 times.

Responding officers quickly arrested the Parra brothers, who were allegedly burning clothing in their backyard; their house was not far from the site of the attack. Police determined the two, who allegedly had been drinking, had recently been in a fight. Twelve hours later, Santana was arrested while walking down the street, and Cardenas was arrested Thursday night. Police Chief Sanchez said blood was found on at least one of the suspects, and one was armed with a knife, though he didn’t elaborate.

Sanchez said there was no indication the suspects knew or had interacted with the victim in the past. Police spokesperson Lt. Paul McCaffrey said he wouldn’t comment on whether there were additional suspects being sought.

All four are alleged to be members of the Eastside gang. The Parra brothers recently got out of federal prison, having served time after being indicted as part of a crackdown — known as Operation Gator Roll — against the Eastside gang. Miguel Parra, 22, received 23 months for pleading guilty to conspiracy to distribute cocaine. He was released on June 17. His older brother, Ismael Parra, 25, was released from custody on September 16 after serving time for a guilty plea to a federal charge of conspiracy under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act.

Both of the Parras were under federal supervised release, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney Mark Aveis, who prosecuted all of the men from the Gator Roll indictment. The terms of the release prohibited them from engaging in gang-related activity and required that they obey all laws. The two could be brought back in front of a federal judge on charges of violating the terms. Of the 28 men who faced federal indictment as a result of Gator Roll, 11 have been released from custody.

Ismael Parra has two open misdemeanor cases in Superior Court, as well, stemming from charges filed before he was taken into custody during Gator Roll.

Santana, meanwhile has a few minor misdemeanors on his record, while Cardenas, since 2005, has been cited for 13 misdemeanors, several of them for resisting or delaying police officers. He has spent his time in and out of Santa Barbara County Jail as a result of many of those charges. He pleaded no contest to a battery charge in 2008, when he allegedly slapped and grabbed his pregnant girlfriend. He was sentenced to 90 days in jail.

While gang-on-gang violence has been increasingly common on the streets of Santa Barbara in recent years, the allegation that these men attacked a man with no criminal history or gang affiliation was particularly troubling to Chief Sanchez. “They’re stepping outside their own box and attacking innocent people,” he said. In response, he said at a press conference last week, his department was reorganizing its priorities and ratcheting up its response.


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Looks like a Hate Crime to me!

contactjohn (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 1:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

how about the Chief quits bumping his gums and get started with an gang injunction already. we know they are attacking innocent people, jeezus, what a stupid comment.

lawdy (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 7:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't dare say anything bad about those arrested for the crime. Doing so will only draw cries of racism from the enabler crowd. Just a "bad decision" by a couple of local kids. Nothing that a few more "social programs" from the City Council can't take care of.

Scooter (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I noticed the headline now reads "Beat to Death" I repeated that mantra several times in my comments over the past couple days because it is the brutality of what happened.

I am glad the writer of todays article decided to repeat that reallity in the Headline. maybe he read my comments.

SanityNow (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I wouldn't wait for help from the authorities; protect yourselves and your family.It is obvious that scumbags always get breaks, while everybody else gets the shaft.

AZ2SB (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The cops are too busy busting people for smoking marijuana to focus on the gang problems in SB.

I love their priorities. I've lost all faith in SB law enforcement.

bronc (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"I wouldn't wait for help from the authorities; protect yourselves and your family"

That would involve owning a gun, but Barbara Boxer doesn't believe we should have the right to own guns. I can provide proof of this you think I'm lying by quoting page 179 of her autobiography "strangers in the senate".

billclausen (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 3:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think that constantly blaming the Police for Gang crime because they are spending all their time busting pot users is absurd. This seems to be the excuse for every violent crime committed by the pro pot people. Have nothing against pot, pretty libertarian on the issue but this is not why we have a gang problem in SB.

Also. Barbara Boxer is useless on so many levels that I don't have enough space to comment.

SanityNow (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We have laws that prohibit people from joining, aiding, abetting, supporting or participating in terrorist organizations right? I mean, like 1 call to al-quaeda will get you a orange jumpsuit & a 1 way ticket to lovely Guantanamo, Cuba right? Well, guess what? STREET GANGS ARE TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS! They terrorize innocent civilians on a daily basis. It's high time the gum flapping stops, the roundups & "black flights" to Camp X-Ray begin :) henry

hank (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Agree with hank.

SanityNow (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey, everybody you know what...this isn't about politics, Al Qada, Barbara Boxer, is the saddest situation, ever! The Syrians who work so hard in this community, who have taken over failing markets and little stores, are to them, about this situation, they can't even speak. They have been told, "Come to the USA!...such a great life!...." and in Santa Barbara, this BUCOLIC TOWN! Now this! This is a dreadful time, that this should happen in THIS BUCOLIC TOWN. Bucolic, really? I am really sad about this.

HiAll (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HiAll: "this isn't about politics, Al Qada, Barbara Boxer, nothing..."

I think you misunderstood what I was getting @. What I was referring to are existing federal laws that have pretty much been on the books for some time now.
Those laws deal w/ terrorism (internaqtional or domestic) & STREET GANGS ARE TERRORISTS. What part of that is "politics" as you state?
It sounds more like using existing laws to finally get something done, regardless of stupid politics :) henry

hank (anonymous profile)
October 21, 2010 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A man is killed by thugs, gangsters, terrorists even, and someone invokes Barbara Boxer ?!!!??? You just lost all respect.

spacey (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 1:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Spacey: the cops are not able to stop thugs such as these, and from what I can see, violence has gotten to the point where (sadly) people are going to have to arm themselves in order to protect themselves. Meanwhile, we have a senator who does not believe that people should have this right of self-defense.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 3:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Not to mention, that her view on the matter makes it clear that she has no respect the for the U.S. constitution.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 3:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Another peaceful person attacked and killed by that "youthful offenders" (isn't that what the DA calls them?)...gee...poor kids...they didn't have the advantages everyone else did, so they had no choice but to join gangs and beat people to death. They are just trying to find their way in the world, poor things. Maybe they need more programs and services, paid-for college, housing, etc.

Yeah...that's the ticket.

Disgusting. What a toilet SB has become. We're so worried about pot smoking and the effect of homeless people on property values and tourism....but gang-bangers just keep sliding along, rewarded for their antisocial behavior.

That poor man. What a horrible way to end one's life. No one is safe any more....and remember...cops can't be everywhere, even if they wanted to be.

Holly (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 7:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There's a town in central CA called Orange Grove just east of Reedley. Interesting little place, mainly a Mexican immigrant population & there were extreme concerns about the potential of gang problems.
So what did Dianne Feinstein do (in part of her constituency)? She got Orange Cove a HUGE $5,000,000 anti-gang grant that went to building a new park (Dianne Feinstein Park) w/ a skateboard park, a BMX track, a new high tech high school (Dianne Feinstein High School) right across the street, all kinds of perks.
The message sent there by the youth was "if you don't give us stuff, we'll join gangs" so the method of appeasement worked. Well, for a little while.
Turns out that the town's mayor & his son are involved in a huge corruption case involving misappropriations of the $5,000,000 grant, cronyism, nepotism & possible gang ties.
In all, the problem went all the way to the top & there was really no fix, just appeasement.
Gangs talk about the need for jobs. Many of the older gang members arrested for gang activity have jobs.
Gangs talk about the need for education. Many of the younger members all go to our public schools, a "free" perk in our society.
Gangs talk about kids having nothing to do. There's plenty to do in this town, but we do need to make more efforts in this, I admit taht.
Gangs talk about how "the man" is keeping them down. What part of "illegal activity" don't gangs understand?
Forget RICO, forget gang enhancement charges, forget "hate" crime, try them for what they are: A terrorist organization.
Sure, that's a federal charge, but guess what? When you curtail a person's rights to life. liberty & the pursuit of happiness you are in fact violating a person's constitutional & civil rights, therefore the federal anti-terrorist charges apply.
It sickens me that we've reached this level that innocent people have to walk in fear for their lives on their streets that they pay taxes for & that hard working Latinos suffer a stigma due to the acts of some of their (our) own.
It is time to do something, I hear Gitmo is rather nice this time of year, ship em' out! :) henry

hank (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So all of you that blog on here and rant about this stuff, what have you done personally to help the situation? I see nothing but people behind the keyboard talking trash and say this and that. If you guys truly care about Santa Barbara get up out of the chair and help your community out . Or just keep pointing fingers and stay in hiding. When I was the store manager for Copeland's Sports and would catch that 12yr old shoplifting I would sit them down talk to him and give him a choice. He could fix all the shoes in the store or I call the cops. He/She would fix the shoes, thank me for the opportunity, and more times then not I would see them back a few days later with mom/dad spending money. I would like to think I some how helped the kid out. I was 25 at the time. What can YOU do to help?

805RunningCrew (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hear you Hank, but if we go the way you are suggesting than who will be safe from the government? Anybody can be considered a terrorist. These gangs here are not prison gangs or cartels, just a bunch of nickel and dime gangsters. I think you are giving them way too much credit, and if we just enforced the law the way it is meant to be that alone could be all we need. The problem is that our officials let this happen and it is obvious when someone is headed towards the wrong direction. Almost all these guys are not first timers and there is always a pattern of activities that can be recognized before they begin doing bigger and badder things. We seem to go from one extreme to another. We will "get tough" and send youth away for 20 years, then we will let an accessory to murder out for the holidays. Consistency would be very effective.

AZ2SB (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Such a sad and tragic story. Condolences to his family.

Draxor (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My heart hurts. This poor man. Those accused men are criminals lacking a soul. I don't believe people capable of such heinous unprovoked hate and violence are able to be reformed, and I don't think they deserve a second chance. How is someone(s) able to beat someone else to death for no reason at all? Where is the humanity? Why do they not know that it's so terribly wrong? Why don't they care? It's so upsetting to know that there are people out there with that capability. They are not even human - just a bunch of ravenous dogs with 'pack mentality.'

Gaijin (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just two words for you in California "concealed carry"!

richardkg (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"They are not even human - just a bunch of ravenous dogs with 'pack mentality.'"

The ironic thing is, a pack of dogs caught for attacking someone would be put down, although they never made a *choice* to attack--they would be following instincts. And yet, people caught for beating someone mercilessly get a chance to live on, in or out of jail. Of course, I am assuming that the perpetrators are guilty, and therefore deserve no less than what they brought upon another.

I guess canines need better lawyers. . . .

equus_posteriori (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

805 running crew: "what have you done personally to help the situation?"

Personally, some time back I caught a couple of gangsters in my neighborhood breaking into cars during spring break. Let's just say that my neighborhood hasn't had a car broken into by gangsters sine then, that's all I'll say :) henry

hank (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 2:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am not much for violence, I'm surely not for gangs and I am definitely not a racist but if this is that same dude that works at Summerland gas station he surely had his Karma comin'. They say Karma is a bitch and what do ya know? It really is. My first encounter with this guy was when he verbally and near physically attacked my wife, daughter and I for parking on 'his side of the street' (on a public, tax payer funded city street mind you) in Summerland on a Monday night at around 9pm then running to the liquor store across the street to shop for 3 or 4 minutes. I was in a large truck towing a trailer and turning around in Summerland is not as easy as parking and running across the street. When I returned from the liquor store he instantly and out of nowhere lit up into a frenzy of expletives at the top of his lungs saying that he would not only 'kick my ass' the next time I parked on his side of the street and shopped somewhere else but he would call the police as well...
These f'n aggressive Middle Eastern folk come to our chill little coastal community with their aggressive, militant, testosterone alpha male domination BS and try to tell us 4th and 5th generation locals what to do. I say F you! Go the F back to Syria either in a box or on a plane. Get the hell out we don't need you. You can't come to a foreign county and start being an ass to the local inhabitants. I don't go over to Syria and start f'n with the locals telling them I am going to kick their ass. And you sure as hell know what would happen if I did...

NoFdaLocals (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Concealed carry would only work if they allowed you to defend yourself. You pretty much have to send your attacker a letter 10 days in advance to tell them you are going to defend yourself or you go to jail.

AZ2SB (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 4:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@hank; You really think I could make stuff up like that? If I could I'd be living in Montecito, Beverly Hills or Hollywood writing successful screenplay. It went down just as posted. It is very rare in this day and age for California street gangs to slaughter nonaffiliated subjects in this way, VERY rare. When it happens there usually tends to be reason. (Although in my opinion murder has no reason there are others in the world who tend to feel otherwise. Just ask the folks who were happy about Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam)

As I said I am not racist and surely do not condone violence or street gangs but Karma has a way of playing it's self out and street justice happens. I just try to mind my own business, be a good citizen and be nice to people and this stuff doesn't happen to myself nor my loved ones. As I said; random slaughter in this style is VERY rare in this day among California street gangs. That's a fact and has been for over 20 years.

NoFdaLocals (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lived in Texas before I lived here. Lots of people there have guns. Felt way safer there than I do here. Texas also executes pretty much one death row inmate a week. I think their murder rate was nearly as high as ours, but you sure don't mess with Texans because you never know who's carrying. Seems like stretching out open arms to gang-bangers and trying to love them better isn't really working out. Maybe if everyone thought everyone else was carrying, they might be a little more polite and less violent in passing, never know.

downtownres (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 10:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Censorship of and by the the media should be a hanging offense.

NoFdaLocals (anonymous profile)
October 22, 2010 at 11:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

>> "Some said he was hit more than 100 times".

Either cite a source for that statement or don't write it at all.

locke (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2010 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If these guys were smoking marijuana instead of drinking, they would have felt relaxed and easygoing, but they were drinking so their actions leaned towards violence. The police and sheriff department want to make a name for themselves in order to further their careers, that is why they go after the pot busts which create big headlines and we are stuck fending for ourselves. Put that energy into real police work which is protection from violent crime against everyday citizens. That is why we pay you.

Chato (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2010 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Big problems on Milpas and the East Side. This from the SBNewsPress

Milpas restaurant owner vandalized, beaten by local teens

October 23, 2010 8:33 AM
A day after Milpas community members pledged to take their neighborhood back last week, a Milpas Street restaurant was targeted by vandals for the second time this month, police said.

The chain of events began on Oct. 9, when the Santa Barbara Police Department responded to an assault reported at Mama Lu Chinese Restaurant in the 400 block of Milpas involving the owner, patrons and four to five juveniles who were vandalizing the business, said Sgt. Mike McGrew. A restaurant employee told the 51-year-old owner that there were four to five males outside of the business pulling wooden trim off of the exterior gate.

Apparently accompanied by customers, the owner went out and told the suspects not to tear her business apart, and the suspects challenged the restaurant owner to a fight, Sgt. McGrew said. The owner pulled out a cell phone to call police, but the suspects allegedly knocked it out of her hands.

A fight ensued, and the owner was attacked by a juvenile girl, who hit the victim in the head, face and stomach several times with a closed fist, Sgt. McGrew said. The owner could only fall to the ground and protect her face and body, and the juvenile pulled a clump of hair from the victim's scalp, Sgt. McGrew said. One of the suspects told the female juvenile to stop and the fight ended, and during the course of the assault, the victim was able to bite a suspect, Sgt. McGrew said.

Officers located a group of juveniles, and the victim was able to identify the girl who attacked her, as well as the male suspect she had bitten — he still had the mark on him, Sgt. McGrew said. The suspects were then arrested on suspicion of battery and challenging to a fight

The suspects had threatened to come back if she called the police, leaving the victim fearful of retaliation, Sgt. McGrew said.

On Oct. 12, a group of citizens held a press conference to announce the formation of the Milpas Community Association and called for a higher level of service from city police — particularly increased police presence — when it comes to handling crime in the neighborhood.

The following day, officers again responded to the restaurant and again met the owner, Sgt. McGrew said. She had opened the restaurant that day and noticed the rear glass door had been broken — there were several marks on it from being hit. Five panel glass windows on the rear north side of the building had also been smashed, Sgt. McGrew said. Officers valued the damage to the door at about $1,500 and the victim requested extra patrols in the area.


pedronava (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2010 at 7:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Terrorism is not a partisan issue. Just saying folks. I agree, the thugs that beat this man are just as much terrorists as radical islamists with bombs. they may have a lower body count, with fists, not bombs, but the final result is the same. We the people feel yet another loss of innocence and peace in the world. Do whatever you can to help but protect yourselves too. That includes voting in politicians who take this stuff seriously, not as a reason to "give" to thugs who just keep taking.

maximum (anonymous profile)
October 24, 2010 at 7:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gang problems start small. If you look at the beginnings of gangs like 18th ST. and the other large gangs of Los Angeles, they were just some guys hanging out too but they are a national problem now. The goals of these gangs are to imitate the harshest monsters they know and then try to out do them. It's a contest to see who can be the most brutal and the prize is respect and fear. When people make socialist excuses for them, they embolden them. These guys aren't going to get better, this is the life they choose. They skip school, tattoo their faces, speak gutter spanglish, and then complain there are no opportunities. These guys had their warning call. They had just got out of jail because of a gang crackdown. They knew the police were watching them and everyone they knew but still chose to kill a man for no reason. They didn't rob him, they just killed him. This is the mentality and lack of intelligence that is inherent to the gang mentality. Look at one of their favorite tattoo themes, the theater masks they renamed "Smile now, Cry later". We need to make them cry now! The cops are ineffectual, they come to the scene after the crime has been committed to take a report. Do your jobs government. You can't save these jerk offs, you have to remove them from society by any means afforded to you. Quit making excuses for them because it makes your job easier. If you don't stop these guys now, it will soon be to late. Every big gang started small and where encouraged by people saying "They just need a little love and a chance to succeed".

Yes, I own a .357 mag and I will put a freedom sized hole in anyone who would hurt my family regardless of their socio-economic standing in this quiet beach-side town.

To the posters that mentioned marijuana, you may have failed to notice that the bail for the worst of these monsters is 1 million dollars. The two people they just arrested for owning dispensaries have a 2 million dollar bail a piece. So our own government feels that being in a gang and beating a man to death for fun is only half as bad as selling a plant. Stay classy Santa Barbara.

Strange (anonymous profile)
October 25, 2010 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Strange-Right on!!!

AZ2SB (anonymous profile)
October 25, 2010 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"The two people they just arrested for owning dispensaries have a 2 million dollar bail a piece. So our own government feels that being in a gang and beating a man to death for fun is only half as bad as selling a plant."
-- Strange

I doubt a judge's setting of bail amounts can be interpreted as a social valuation of how "bad" a crime may be.The purpose of bail is to insure the appearance of the accused (in addition, the 8th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits the use of bail as punishment).

But assuming the bail bond fee is 10%, I doubt those families are going to be able to afford $100,000 anyways.

The SB County bail schedule is here:

It looks like most of the murder-related offenses have a baseline bail amount of $1M and are among the highest on the list. Bail amounts higher than $1M are drug-related offenses (larger amounts). I suspect these are higher in part because larger-volume drug-dealers often have access to large funds and can present a higher risk for flight.

These comments are not intended to opine on the marijuana debate.

EastBeach (anonymous profile)
October 25, 2010 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Enough on the pot debate, the problem is gangs, whether they're sober, using pot, alcohol, pcp, meth, coke, smack, whatever. It's gangs that's the issue, Strange, glad you shared those thoughts & believe me, I'm on the side of putting a freedom sized hole in anyone, regardless of socio-economic or ethnic standing, who tries to hurt my family as well.
I'm over the appeasement, coddling, sympathy, forgiveness thing, in fact I was never on it becuse I always knew what gangs are about: Worthlessness.
By the way, for any of you out there that think some of us are making our comments against gangs out of fear, think again, My comments are out of anger & being fed up w/ a system that affords more rights to these vermin than to the victims of their crimes. It is time to reverse the equation :) henry

hank (anonymous profile)
October 25, 2010 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Remember, as Assistant Police Chief Mannix has stated, it will take police 10-minutes to respond to the scene of a major incident, until then, as he further stated, "you are on your own." Police can't do much about preventing what sounds like a spontaneous attack in this Ied case. But, once they are notified of an incident such as this I would hope our police department has the personnel to respond in less than ten minutes.

Chief Sanchez, why don't you tell the citizens of our community why it will take ten mintues to respond to a "shootout" situation (if Mannix' statement is accurate) and why this delayed response is accepted by you and your staff?

whatsinsb (anonymous profile)
March 8, 2013 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

These murdering criminals should have excellent life-wasting careers in PRISON as celldolls. Have fun, you crazy gangwangers!

Draxor (anonymous profile)
March 11, 2013 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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