Lance Cites ‘Outrageous Government Conduct’ in Motion to Dismiss

looks like after Lance got denied in court that he is grasping at straws here... i hate when people try anything to get out of taking responsibility for their actions at any cost. he reminds me of my 4 year old...

Well, its just about time to start begging for a plea deal isn't it, Little Peter. Your 15 minutes of fame was up long, long ago. Nice try LOSER!

enough already - take responsiblity for drinking and driving and stop wasting everyone's time and money!! Aren't you even a little embarrassed??

this is just the prelim hearing to decide if it even goes to trial... the circus has not even begun yet.

None of this does anything to clear the PD & DA of the alleged misconduct either.

Like it or not, all we've seen so far are some very serious allegations and instead of dealing with those openly, there has just been a concerted effort by both the PD and the DA to sweep them under the rug. That's not ok at all. Those allegations need to be addressed, not swept under the rug.

Look, Lance may well be guilty of DUI and deserves the consequences... but however much you may despise the man for that, he really did do us all a service exposing the corruption... and there is substance to a good portion of those allegations, that needs to be addressed. Until that part is fully and openly investigated and dealt with, can anyone truly trust the PD in SB will not infringe YOUR rights next time? Perhaps an independent and full investigation will clear all the smell away, perhaps not... but it has to be done now for any confidence in the PD going forward. If you think uninvolved witnesses calling 911 to report police brutality is normal and should be ignored... God help you when it is your turn.

Hate the NewsPress? Fine
Think Genis is a slimeball? No problem
Can't stand Lance and think he's a drunken menace? That's fine too.

Ignoring the message because you don't care for the messenger? That's just naive, at best.

Hey Peter, Doug Flutie just called to say, nice Hail Mary....

Cartoonz...... did you ever stop to consider that maybe all of the stuff that Lance put out there is BS and the PD and the DA know it and therefor aren't giving it any weight?
What if someone who didn't like you borrowed a printing press and printed that you were a child molester over and over again....would that make it true? Should we start an independent investigation? Maybe we should call the Attorney General's office?
Stop drinking Lance's Kool-Aid and use some common sense and logic.....please.

Yeah, gee... we should just ignore it and pretend none of it is true, huh? I don't know what Kool Aide you're drinking, but my common sense works just fine.

While the DA is doing everything they can to keep any of it from being explored in open court, and mostly justifiably from the viewpoint of relevance to the focus of the current hearing, the allegations involving sworn officers of the law still need to be dealt with to restore public trust.

Feel free to bury your head in the sand and pretend everyone in a uniform is beyond reproach if that floats your boat... but some of us don't see the world through the same rose colored glasses.

I'd love it if this was fully investigated and after everything was brought out into the light, it was all shown to be untrue. That would be great, it would restore public trust. But, somehow I don't see it playing out that way...which is also fine, as that will restore the public trust as well, once resolved.

Will any of this get Lance off the dock? Maybe, maybe not...that is a separate issue. Sure, that's his motivation but what's been revealed needs to be vetted either way.

Your example is not at all the same thing as this at all, I suspect you know that.

Did the DA or PD officer mess up during the process? Maybe. I wasn't there but it would be the first time cops or DA's did a little fudging. Bottom line, should a legit DUI be dismissed? No. You drank, you drove drunk, got pulled over. So suck it up and take your medicine.

Should some discipline take place for the officer's conduct if in fact some of these allegations are true. Most definitely.

Cartoonz. I imagine based on your logic if cops conducted a raid on a house where kids were being molested without a warrant you would give that person a pass? You want to try to draw that line and tell me the two aren't comparable. Wake up, they are both breaking the law, regardless of the severity.

Where do you see that I EVER said that Lance should get a pass? I've said nothing of the sort. What I have said is that the PD should not get a pass just because Lance uncovered the dirt on them.

Thanks for some sanity and common sense BeachFan. I think Pappas is advising Lance on his strategy...

I am all for justice if you actually commit the crime. You should do the time. But at the same time if allegations of PD and DA issues come up those should be fully investigated by an independent council too. Just be cause one did a crime in the DUI does not mean they are not telling the truth or have witness that differ from the reality the PD and DA are trying to push. If anything to me when law enforcement breaks the rules they should do the full amount of time for it. They are breaking the trust and the honor of the badge and the office.

Now Santa Barbara has another DUI case with a beating too so are we to say that this is not a trend? maybe so or maybe not but till it is investigated in an unbiased way it should never be disregarded especially when you have several citizen witnesses.

and as I predicted, the whole case against Lance was dismissed today, which I find unfortunate because now the misdeeds of the others on this circus may never fully be investigated.

Does it suck that Lance got away with a DUI? Sure.

But the real shame is that the misconduct of the other side will now be swept under the rug.