Guns Kill

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In the six months since Sandy Hook, nearly 5,192 or more Americans have been killed by guns. How do you feel about the fact that Congress has done nothing to make our communities safer? The Coalition Against Gun Violence (CAGV) believes such inaction is unacceptable to the majority of Americans. The newly organized Newtown Alliance community group refuses to accept a do-nothing Congress. The group commemorated the six-month anniversary by going to Washington, D.C., and hand-delivered letters signed by other like-minded groups demanding action on universal background checks and accompanied by a list of Americans killed by gun violence since December 14, 2012.

The CAGV, a grassroots nonprofit working for nonviolence on the Central Coast for 18 years, is presenting a community town hall forum this coming October 17, “Safety in Our Homes, Schools, and Community.” You and your family can take action by becoming involved in two national programs: the ASK Campaign and the Student Pledge Against Gun Violence . In your home you can encourage nonviolence with the CAGV’s six “What Can I Do?” principles.

In the words of Mark Barden, father of 7-year-old Sandy Hook victim Daniel Barden: “What happened in Newtown can happen anywhere. In any instant, any dad in America could be in my shoes. No one should feel the pain. No one should feel our pain or the pain felt by the tens of thousands of people who’ve lost loved ones to senseless gun violence.”

Now is the time! Move forward and become active in this sea of change wrought through the deaths of innocents. Take action — move forward! Contact CAGV today and become an active member. Call (805) 564-6803 or email


Independent Discussion Guidelines

Thank goodness we have identified a simple fix and that Congress holds the solution. I wish someone had told us it was this simple years ago...

italiansurg (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2013 at 5:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The entire Sandy Hook sham is all hearsay. We have seen no proof anything happened that day besides a drill. I am happy to debate anyone on this matter if they refrain from ad hominem attacks.

redbunz (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2013 at 3:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Redbunz - there's nothing to debate. You're simply wrong.

sacjon (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2013 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually, Redbunz nailed it - according to the info available on the web, not a single family of the children killed, ever saw a body. If this is true, how do we know anyone died besides the adults? (Or anyone died at all?)

spiritwalker (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2013 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Only ghouls want to see those dead children. And only a real sicko would debate their existence.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2013 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OMG, we all know you specialize in mindless, airheaded pap KV, but I'll tell you the same exact words I told my daughter after Sandy Hook:

"I don't care how badly f*cked up you are, I will NEVER accept that you are dead, unless I see enough body parts to convince me you couldn't survive without them!"

It has nothing to do with sadism, it's about making sure that your loved one is really dead - it's a human need as old as time itself - and only a buffoon like you would have a problem with it, KV.

spiritwalker (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2013 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Once again, more laws are proposed to solve the problem.

Decades ago, we had less gun laws, yet these mass shootings were not making the headlines for one of two reasons: A: There was a media conspiricy to suppress the information; (a theory that I have no reason to believe has any basis in truth) B: These shootings weren't happening. (All the evidence points to theory "B".)

The high-caliber firepower may not have existed in ...let's say 20 years ago and beyond, (and if it did, then what I'm about to say has even more validity) but certainly anyone could have purchased a couple of six shooter handguns and gone in and killed a bunch of people--or to garner much more attention, kids. Ten kids getting killed certainly would have made the news, even a half a dozen adults would have been newsworthy. So why is this happening now?

Is it possible that the social engineering that the anti-gun people have promoted for the last few decades has been responsible for the increase violence (not just *gun* violence) in our country? Stabbings in Santa Barbara are a way of life now. I don't recall it being such a problem 20- years ago. Road rage wasn't even in our collective vocabulary yet now everywhere we go people are frantic, scared, and in a hurry.

Wellen would do much better to focus on the causes of violence, rather than focusing on making more laws.

If anti-drug laws don't stop people from getting stoned and doing crack, why does she think gun laws will stop the Bad Guys from getting guns?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2013 at 4:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok guys I'm waiting for proof, nobody is asking for pictures, the newtown town clerk was breaking the law by not releasining just the simple death certificates. If you are going to say I'm wrong, show me the proof. The burden of proof is on YOU.

redbunz (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2013 at 5:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Will their birth certificates suffice?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2013 at 6:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Newtown shooter broke 41 laws.
How will a 42nd help?

It won't.
Mentally ill and criminals kill people.

Law abiding gun owners do not.
Laws at this point are symbolic ways for lib-dems to feel good about themselves. They are the ultimate "form" over function.


willy88 (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2013 at 7:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

shooter took gun from law abiding mother. If law abiding mother was unable to lawfully purchase the bushmaster and was limited to 10 or less bullets per clip, time might have saved a few children. Someday the naysayers will know the ultimate truth, hopefully not from the end of a bushmaster unless that's what you'd prefer.

spacey (anonymous profile)
July 19, 2013 at 2:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Prove it

redbunz (anonymous profile)
July 19, 2013 at 10:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sandy Hook was a freak occurrence, not The-problem-that-requires-utopianist-orgasm.

Also, at least 2 recent spree shooters surrendered or shot themselves as soon as the police arrived with their guns. Cowardly acts, committed by cowards.

If I was Emperor of Bad Burgers And Lethal Fries, every non-felon never 5150 between ages 35 and 65 would be required to pack a gun, in the interest of non-violence. This assumes background checks. But resistance to background checks is championed by... criminals? No, more like patriots, who prefer a republic to totalitarianism. Absolute power corrupts like a mutha-f****.

Adonis_Tate (anonymous profile)
July 20, 2013 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

uhh, spacey give up, brain accepting guvment behind shooting so laws get passt and take away guns, even tho laws no pass, guvment does it. guvment control evrything, no ded bodys, no laws, no proof, uhh. Internet has answer, me go internet now and find guvment does everything and nuthing. no believe story.

spacey (anonymous profile)
July 20, 2013 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Uh oh, we have an extra smart shill! (Speaking in GEICO "cave man" dialect, WOW!)

Do me a favor Mr. Smart Man, sir: Google 'bloody tsarnaev picture', then after taking a good look at Tsarnaev getting out of that boat, please explain how an unarmed man with NO apparent wounds ended up near death and shot in the throat and through both hands.

I would ask you not lie when giving your explanation, but we both KNOW that's impossible!

spiritwalker (anonymous profile)
July 20, 2013 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Google: shrieking harridan

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 20, 2013 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I googled 'volok' - the definition given was "old Ukrainian or Russian word for a narrow strip of land between to rivers. (As in a portage.)

I propose that the American definition of 'volok' be "the narrow slab of diseased fat between a guy named 'Ken'(s) ears." (And pointing out OBVIOUS government lies and slander does not a "shrieking harridan" make, you shrieking, f*cking harridan!);-)

spiritwalker (anonymous profile)
July 20, 2013 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 20, 2013 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you Volok. That streaming tribute brought a tear to my eye.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
July 20, 2013 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You can make lame jokes all you want but you still can't provide anything but hearsay.

redbunz (anonymous profile)
July 22, 2013 at 6:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks for bringing the vinegar redbunz.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 22, 2013 at 7:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Willful ignorance

redbunz (anonymous profile)
July 24, 2013 at 12:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I propose a duel between spiritwalker and Ken_Volok.

Adonis_Tate (anonymous profile)
July 26, 2013 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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