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English learners in the Santa Barbara school district have shown improvements this year. Reclassified students actually outperformed English-only students on the English portion of the state‚Äôs standardized tests. Of the 933 English learners eligible for reclassification as English proficient this year, 518 (or 56 percent) made the leap. This was a significant bump, likely a result of Assistant Superintendent Emilio Handall earlier in the year suggesting that principals were not reclassifying students so as not to lose state and federal funding.

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QUOTE: "This was a significant bump, likely a result of Assistant Superintendent Emilio Handall earlier in the year suggesting that principals were not reclassifying students
***** so as not to lose state and federal funding."********

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There you have it folks, pay to play California style. One more counter-productive disincentive from your local nanny-state government.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 13, 2013 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A truly hilarious article with a truly hilarious and irrelevant headline.

Why not "Oakland crime reduced for many" A recent study demonstrated that convicted felons in prison commit fewer bank robberies. Governor Brown hails improvement as sign that his policies are having an impact.

italiansurg (anonymous profile)
June 13, 2013 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Shades of the Homeless Inc annual Common Ground count - found just enough fewer street people this year to justify continuation of the lucrative grants to "solve" the problem; but not enough to terminate the programs which would also terminate executive and staff salaries.

The fine line between an appropriate social safety net and a self-perpetuating, job protection nanny-state requires constant scrutiny. Set realistic goals and meet them, or sunset the programs.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 13, 2013 at noon (Suggest removal)

As I've said before, if the system stops giving everything to the parents in Spanish, their assimilation into American society will inadvertently help their kids assimilate into American society but as I've also pointed out (as Foo and Stallion are pointing out as well) there is too much $$$ wrapped up in keeping kids from learning English.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
June 13, 2013 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well in any case the point of the article is that the Assistant Superintendent DID call them on it and they DID reclassify the students (and I guess they DID lose their funding accordingly) and the kids ARE learning English as evidenced by the 518 who were reclassified and who went on to whoop English natives on standardized tests. So, there's a problem? I know kids my daughter started Kindergarten with who spoke no English, who just completed 5th grade fully bilingual and English literate. They pulled this off at age 5, 6, 7, 8 while also learning math, science, social studies, all in English with no one at home able to help them with homework. They are amazing. There is no effort anywhere in the schools to keep kids from learning English, and a very great deal of effort in the opposite direction.

Nitz (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 12:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's true Nitz, there are people who want to cut out all but the most bare bones material as to have better drones for their slave labor force.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 12:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

KV: Obama is the one dragging us into war this time, as we speak. Please let him know your concerns before he sticks his hands further into the Syria tar-baby. That is if you can find him in his office these days. Try the golf course.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Foo, your blind hatred betrays you. BOTH parties have screwed us over, Obama is just continuing your guy Bush's wars and agenda.
Your guy McCain is quite supportive of the Syrian "adventure" as well. In addition, unless they're Syrian-born students currently enrolled in the SB School System , let's stay on topic.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And I object to the racist use of the term tar-baby. Shame on you slimeball.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar-Baby

It can be defined both ways, but I've always understood it to be racist so perhaps Foo didn't know the meaning.

As for Obama leading us into the Syria mess, are the leading Republicans trying to stop him?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 3:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The leading Republicans insisted we get involved in Syria to fund their military industry which is all they care about in the end. Obama has stated he considers Reagan a hero. I find it hard to think of Obama s a Democrat but then there are so few genuine ones in office nowadays as it is.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 3:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And if Foo wishes to plead ignorance, I'd be happy to retract my remark.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

foo, try using Google or the public library! You wrote "Obama is the one dragging us into war this time" which is untrue. McCain and other red-blooded Republicans (and a few Demos) are pushing Obama hard to intervene more than he has (small arms weapons is not like placing boots on the ground in syria).
Nitz is correct and we should be celebrating this news about educational success. BC, you stated "as I've said before" and you ALWAYS say that, but we are trying to educate (and in English) the children of many parents who do not read English very well. They should get the materials in Spanish, of course. And the ballots for state elections should be offered in English and Spanish.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DrDan: Why do you feel Spanish-speaking immigrants' needs are different from those of other linguistic groups?

Why is everyone else expected to learn English but they are not?

Human nature is such that if a person does not have to learn a language, they probably won't.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 9:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think their NUMBERS are very different, Bill, not necessarily their needs. However, since their linguistic presence here in Calif. antedates the onslaught of English-speakers ("Yankees") yeah, their needs are different as well. There are decades-old Spanish-lang. radio stations and newspapers and TV stations and an entire culture, aligned with anglo culture, but still unique and different. Growing up, one might have many older relatives, citizens, who always speak in Spanish with you...so this kid's linguistic background is different than that, say, of a legal immigrant Vietnamese person or German-speaker.
Don't agree necessarily that "Human nature is such that if a person does not have to learn a language, they probably won't". I think a partial solution is that we all should learn at least 3 languages, it isn't that hard with good instruction and hard work.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
June 15, 2013 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Onslaught" of English speakers? Seems an odd choice of word here.
I think one needs to note also that as in so many other things these days, a cottage industry of sorts has grown up around "bilingualism" which in almost all political/educational contexts these days means (only) English-Spanish. I am all for learning foreign languages too and have invested considerable time in doing so over the course of my life, but what we often have in southern California is a de facto sort of forced bilingual policy which ultimately does more harm than good. When I've traveled abroad I always made a serious attempt to communicate in the local language. Were I ever to plan to permanently relocate, mastering the local language would be a first priority.
These things have to go both ways. Perpetually coddling someone, or some select group, for whatever rationale, often ends up serving only to infantilize them in the long run, impeding their chances of success and further progess.

zappa (anonymous profile)
June 15, 2013 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OK, the westward movement of pioneers and so on to California after 1848 led to the dominance of English over Spanish in California, it was a sort of linguistic conquest, too, or perhaps "onslaught". But in some areas, Santa Barbara as an e.g., large islands or segments of the population remained mother tongue Spanish-speaking. This, zappa, is the difference: like me, when YOU traveled abroad you tried to learn the language of the area (German for me). But many native speakers of Spanish here did not "travel" to this area, or if they did (illegals) there was an island or zone where speaking Spanish was OK.
I am no fan of enforced bilingualism in schools.
So you say that respect for an indigenous Spanish-speaking area means infantilizing them? Makes little sense.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
June 15, 2013 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When you have people coming here from all over the world, it makes sense to ensure a common language.

What happens when someone who has lived here for 30 years but can only speak Spanish has an emergency at their house and they are panicking and they run to their next-door neighbor but that neighbor does not speak Spanish? How is this respecting Spanish-speaking culture?

One would say "we all need to learn Spanish" (y no tengo que ocuparme por este asunto) but again, most people who don't have to learn a second language generally won't. Now the real issue: Do people who come here from countries where the native tongue is something other than Spanish or English now have to learn TWO languages in order to get by? How is THAT being "respectful" of them?

Spanish-speaking immigrants are not the only people who have to struggle with learning other languages. Nicht Wahr? Hacer la misma cosa continuamente mientras esperar resultado diferente no tiene sentido. No?

Nothing disrespectful about the concept of a lingua franca. Besides, isn't literacy the way all oppressed demographics in this country the way they overcome those barriers?

Make the connection: Slaveowners didn't want their charges to learn how to read, and "bilingual services" has the same effect on Spanish-speaking people. Why can't people see the connection?...even if those advocating the latter do so out of good intentions.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
June 15, 2013 at 6:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"I think their NUMBERS are very different, Bill, not necessarily their needs. However, since their linguistic presence here in Calif. antedates the onslaught of English-speakers ("Yankees") yeah, their needs are different as well."

First you say "not necessarily their needs" but then you say "their needs are different as well". Which is it?

"There are decades-old Spanish-lang. radio stations and newspapers and TV stations and an entire culture, aligned with anglo culture, but still unique and different. "

My Grandmother used to get The Assyrian Star in her native Syriac. She had an incredibly strong tie with the Chicago Assyrian community but she spoke flawless English, as did all her brothers and sisters.

"Growing up, one might have many older relatives, citizens, who always speak in Spanish with you...so this kid's linguistic background is different than that, say, of a legal immigrant Vietnamese person or German-speaker."

Again, my grandmother's mother spoke no English, and Assyrian/Syriac/Aramaic is what they heard at home. She had no English when she came here at twelve, but she didn't have people telling her that her cultural experience precluded her ability to learn English. Besides, being dark-skinned and speaking a language that has absolutely nothing in common with English (and written totally differently) made it necessary to learn English.

"Don't agree necessarily that "Human nature is such that if a person does not have to learn a language, they probably won't". I think a partial solution is that we all should learn at least 3 languages, it isn't that hard with good instruction and hard work."

Then why is it that most Americans speak only English, and so many Spanish-speaking immigrants speak only Spanish? You actually make my point because if kids are immersed in a multi-lingual environment, they will learn these languages--as you point out.

"I am no fan of enforced bilingualism in schools.
So you (Zappa) say that respect for an indigenous Spanish-speaking area means infantilizing them? Makes little sense."

It makes perfect sense. The message to these people is "everyone else can learn English, but you can't", ergo, Zappa is correct. Dan, how are people who do not speak English supposed to get ahead in the U.S.? Can you answer me that?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
June 16, 2013 at 4:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dan: Here is what Assyrians came from linguistically. My point is, if they can do it, so can Spanish-speaking people.

http://www.logos.com/images/products/...

billclausen (anonymous profile)
June 16, 2013 at 4:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sr.Dan: No he pensado en hacerle la pregunta siguente: Puede llevar a cabo una conversacion con aquellos que vienen de paises sur de la frontiera EEUU en el idioma de hablan entre ellos?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
June 16, 2013 at 4:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Queria decir "QUE hablan entre ellos".

billclausen (anonymous profile)
June 16, 2013 at 5:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Divide and conquer is still politically useful for the dominant political party.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 16, 2013 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The dominant party being the Republicrats. (Or if you prefer, Demicans)

billclausen (anonymous profile)
June 16, 2013 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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