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<b>BIG FAN:</b>  Upon seeing President Barack Obama in person, County Supervisor Salud Carbajal remarked: “He’s really tall and thin,” adding, “It’s a little awe-inspiring when you’re with the president of the United States, but he’s still just a man like you or me.”

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BIG FAN: Upon seeing President Barack Obama in person, County Supervisor Salud Carbajal remarked: “He’s really tall and thin,” adding, “It’s a little awe-inspiring when you’re with the president of the United States, but he’s still just a man like you or me.”


Mr. Carbajal Goes to Washington

Hears President’s Speech on Climate Change


Thursday, June 27, 2013
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When President Barack Obama braved Washington D.C.’s sweltering heat to deliver a major address on combating climate change, Santa Barbara County Supervisor Salud Carbajal was there at the president’s invitation to witness it. Carbajal, who sits on several governmental boards and commissions dealing with air pollution and climate, said he found the speech at Georgetown University “encouraging and exciting,” but he expressed caution as to how the programs outlined would be funded. Carbajal noted that Obama was proposing to enact many of the initiatives via executive order, thus bypassing Congress. But the $8 billion in new initiatives Obama promised, Carbajal added, would require congressional approval. To date, the consensus required does not exist.

Obama outlined new regulations to cut carbon dioxide emissions generated from new or existing power plants by half. Likewise, the president proposed doubling the amount of electricity generated by renewable sources in the next seven years. And he called for a major investment in energy-efficient retrofits of existing buildings. After the speech, Carbajal said he was one of three elected officials who met with White House energy officials to discuss their experience dealing with such issues. With marine tankers contributing a major amount of air pollution in Santa Barbara County, Carbajal said he objected to changes proposed by the International Maritime Organization that would delay the adoption of cleaner technologies on new ​— ​not existing ​— ​tankers by six years.

And he said he pushed for changes in Department of Energy regulations that would enable property owners to finance energy-efficient remodels by paying off their loans in the form of higher property taxes. When the Board of Supervisors sought to adopt such an approach a few years ago, it found the way blocked by regulatory inconsistencies between the California Department of Finance and the federal Department of Energy.

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The President talks a lot about change but the Power behind our Government still controls the purse strings and those Presidential changes ain't never going to happen.

dou4now (anonymous profile)
June 27, 2013 at 7:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Who paid for this boondoggle?

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
June 27, 2013 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Please, please, please do not tell me county taxpayers paid for this campaign photo op.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 27, 2013 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Who paid for him to take a vacation to DC and watch a speech he could have seen in his mansion in Montecito? Us. the Santa Barbara County taxpayers. Do you honestly think federal officials give two hoots over what some second rate small county elected wannabee has to say about federal policy? What was there response to him when he objected? Same as he gives constituents who go to his office. "Thank you for voicing your concerns". That's if he is in his office and not out on some trip pretending that state or federal officials care what he has to say.

BeachFan (anonymous profile)
June 27, 2013 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Salud is merely positioning himself for his next job, feeding off the public trough.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 27, 2013 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The county is still facing a big budget deficit, roads and Infrastructure is a disaster and we pay for Carbajal to go to DC.

loneranger (anonymous profile)
June 27, 2013 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whoa, what a lot of whining and complaining. Isn't the job of our local pols to give advice to those higher up the food chain. Should only people who can afford the time and money go to lobby in the capitol? Who should speak for the county on national-level issues that affect us locally?

BeachFan, I suppose you missed the part where he did some lobbying in addition to listening to a speech. You think a phone call would have been just as effective?

Ragging on politicians for reckless spending is our national sport. Some fans in the bleacher seats raise a fuss when they don't even know what's happening on the field.

SezMe (anonymous profile)
June 28, 2013 at 12:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wake up SB County tax payers. Many of our county paid staff are riding the green environmental wave with our hard earned tax dollars. Carbajal is simply the jester, Karamitsos sits on the Throne. These two don't give two cents about doing right by the community of Santa Barbara county and how our tax dollars are spent. They both have over inflated egos and are saving the entire world!

PayAttn (anonymous profile)
June 28, 2013 at 12:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Riding the green wave is just political cover for the progressive's real agenda: wealth distribution; higher taxes on the "rich", locking in more compensation and benefits for their union member buddies, with no accountability or reform of their worst practices.

Locally we have a scourge of transients with mental problems living on our streets, making excessive demands on local budgets, and degrading the quality of life for everyone, including the street transients.

What did Das Williams and Hanneh-Beth Jackson do in the state budget? Allocate $142 million dollars to the entire state for "mobile mental health crisis teams" to **stabilize** the mentally ill.

This means they voted to keep them on the streets, and hope they can "stabilize" them, before they attack and kill innocent bystanders.

Meanwhile Jackson/Williams siphoned most of the money for their teacher union buddies in K-12, giving the shaft to CSU and UC.

And bragging their gave their union buddies on the school board "more local control" over how this will get spent. Guess how? More perks, benefits, raises and pension promises to their union buddies for this new billions of tax dollars they will spend on their political allies.

How much went for "environmental" causes? Just about zip except for the requirement the Prop 39 tax dollars get used to make schools more "green" which pay off their buddies in the heavily subsidized solar power industry.

This is token green-washing, but now they get to brag about their "green" credentials when in fact the bulk of new tax dollars went straight into their union buddies back pockets. Their only "green" credentials are the numbers of green-backs used to pay off their union supporters.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 28, 2013 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Since the public has a right to know what our elected officials do when they get paid to carry out the public's business, please may we have a transcript of the advice Mr Carbajal passed on to our nation's leaders? Thank you.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 28, 2013 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey foo how come you never answer the evidence of your racism which begs the question "who are you in bed with?" that you yourself pose of others. How about your full disclosure?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 28, 2013 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

foofighter is a racist? how so?

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
June 29, 2013 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Per your request JL

"Obama is the one dragging us into war this time, as we speak. Please let him know your concerns before he sticks his hands further into the Syria tar-baby."

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 14, 2013 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.independent.com/news/2013/...

You will also see where it (aka foo) was given a chance to explain itself but as usual ran like the coward we've come to know them to be.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 29, 2013 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

foo, stay focused, in your 6/28 10:28 am post you mean "wealth REdistribution" -- and yeah, I hope that goes through. And when you rag on Salud (and there's plenty to criticize, I agree), isn't it jealousy on your part about his "feeding off the public trough." Isn't that what you really want to do?
KV's right, JL, tar-baby won't cut it, it's Uncle Remus stuff, pay attention.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
June 29, 2013 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If Foofighter is fighting foo, and those who fight Foofighter are fighting Foo, it can get confusing at times.

Upper case vs. lower case can make all the difference.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
June 29, 2013 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tar-baby stories come from the celebration of West African Anansi story telling, creating a wonderfully evocative image of the archetypal trickster:

"Anansi shares similarities with the trickster figure of Brer Rabbit, who originated from the folklore of the Bantu-speaking peoples of south and central Africa. Enslaved Africans brought the Brer Rabbit tales to the New World, which, like the Anansi stories, depict a physically small and vulnerable creature using his cunning intelligence to prevail over larger animals.

However, although Brer Rabbit stories are told in the Caribbean, especially in the French-speaking islands (where he is named “Compair Lapin”), he is predominantly an African American folk hero. His tales entered the mainstream through the work of the white American journalist Joel Chandler Harris, who wrote several collections of Uncle Remus stories between 1870 and 1906.[18]

One of the times Anansi himself was tricked was when he tried to fight a tar baby after trying to steal food, but became stuck to it instead. It is a tale well known from a version involving Br'er Rabbit, found in the Uncle Remus stories and adapted and used in the 1946 live-action/animated Walt Disney movie Song of the South.

These were derived from African-American folktales in the Southern United States, that had part of their origin in African folktales preserved in oral storytelling by African-Americans. Elements of the African Anansi tale were combined by African-American storytellers with elements from Native American tales, such as the Cherokee story of the "Tar Wolf",[19] which had a similar theme, but often had a trickster rabbit as a protagonist.

The native American trickster rabbit appears to have resonated with African-American story-tellers and was adopted as a cognate of the Anansi character with which they were familiar.[20] Other authorities state the widespread existence of similar stories of a rabbit and tar baby throughout indigenous Meso-American and South American cultures.[21]

Thus, the tale of Br'er Rabbit and the Tar Baby represents a coming together of two separate folk traditions, American and African, which coincidentally shared a common theme. Most of the other Br'er Rabbit stories originated with Cherokee or Algonquin myths.[22] In the USA today, the stories of Br'er Rabbit exist alongside other stories of Aunt Nancy, and of Anansi himself, coming from both the times of slavery and also from the Caribbean and directly from Africa."

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 29, 2013 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Syria isn't located in Africa and is not considered African in any way.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 12:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Obama getting the US involved in the Syrian civil war evokes the archetypal image of the proverbial West African tar baby.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Using the term "tarbaby" makes one a racist? Funny, but where I come from the device that the road crews drag along behind them to repair asphalt is called a "tarbaby" and the term is also used to mean something that, once you touch it, you can't get loose. Hardly racist. Unless, of course, one is looking real hard to sling the racist arrow, common sport in the PC set. Because, yes, the term was also used in Song of the South.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 8:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To condemn the use the term tar-baby is censorship of its West African/Caribbean cultural roots.

Why would anyone want to do that? It is a wonderful childhood story and provides an excellent common denominator short-hand that teaches caution when approaching a complex and unknown situation.

I admire the simplicity of the story and its vivid literary resonance. If anything it bridges a cultural divide; not exacerbates it.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Or as one could say: don't throw out the tar-baby with the Baathist water.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Syria is not in West Africa.
Buncha pigs. You both know damn well the connotations here in the United States. And if you're suddenly Free Speech Advocates I have a list of worthy causes , not some Piece of Fooces.

You really think people don't know that whole piece on West Africa was not only copied and pasted. No wonder you hide under pseudonyms or at least you think you're hidden. Really really disgusting especially "John Locke" who pretends to be above it all and bends over backwards to justify the racial slur.

And again, Syria is NOT in West Africa so how does any African mythology apply.

Flush the Fooces down the John Locke!

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

KV: you speak PC Progressive Speak; not a commonly accepted second language in the US.

PS: future clue -- if you see the use of quote marks and embedded footnote references ---- you can conclude the passage has been copied and pasted.

Second clue: we are in the US, where we use common US cultural reference points. You are getting skunked, KV. Don't make it so obvious, adding your own complicity.

(Skunked - US cultural slang and no offense intended to any nocturnal vertebrate, living or dead, nor were any nocturnal vertebrates harmed in the use of this term, though some might be highly offended at the present association out of professional courtesy.)

foofighter (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Fooces go stuff yourself you coward.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 11:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In addition Fooces, the US is not in West Africa per your "US, where we use common US cultural reference points" . You know damn well you're a slimeball who meant the phrase as a racial slur. You want to get into a Free Speech fight I'll spin your head you little Nazi piece of scum.
The term "skunked" is lifted from another US subculture altogether a-hole.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In addition only a completely clueless moron would ever accuse me of being PC.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

the likes of lockefoo are just jacking you around, KV, ignore 'em.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 11:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If think you're right Doc, cheap thrills for small minds.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Who paid for him to take a vacation to DC and watch a speech he could have seen in his mansion in Montecito?"
-- BeachFan

Carbajal lives on the west side of SB.

EastBeach (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It says a LOT about people on the points they choose to criticize someone on. Of all the points one could criticize (or support) Carbajal on- the most (un)popular seem to be where he lives and the fact he took a business trip (yes he is on several environmentally focused government commissions).
What a buncha ignoramuses.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Long ago, American communist all agreed best way to convince voters to support massive redistribution of wealth from private to public sector was condition them to believe industry in hands of the private sector are rapidly destroying the environment.

Looks like the voting majority have been on board since November, 2007.

SBLifer (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 8:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Communism is dead, quit fighting windmills.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 9:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The modern progressive movement is a rebranding of the communist movement. Those involved in the climate change movement are rebranded environmentalists. Progressive & Climate Change or Communist & Environmentalist, what's the difference?

Why not put necessity of subsidized wind farms to the test by allowing public vote on it at the ballot box?

SBLifer (anonymous profile)
June 30, 2013 at 11:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why not stop huffing glue?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 12:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

From K_V: "You know damn well you're a slimeball who meant the phrase as a racial slur."

Boy, K_V, you've really sunk to a new low on this one. Just because YOU see tarbaby as racist don't make it so, dude. I used to think you were usually reasonable....

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I used to believe JL was center left, too.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

using tar-baby is racist.

lawdy (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

agreed, lawdy and KV. Usage is key, of course. And foo cited stuff from Wikipedia, including the correct ref to African folklore (i.e., the gum doll Anansi the spider created), many Americans do think "tar baby" is a negative term for African Americans. The Oxford English Dictionary defines "tar baby" as "a difficult problem which is only aggravated by attempts to solve it", but the subscription-only version adds a second definition: "a derogatory term for a Black (U.S.) or a Maori (N.Z.)".
The SONG OF THE SOUTH hasn't been released widely for home viewing since it has this and other racist terms and themes in it.
foo is loose and slick, like some other slimy posters on this thread.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Progressives are prosecutors, judge and jury of their own list of taboo words. Time for a Supreme Court ruling so they can become the nationwide standard, instead of merely coin in their own parochial realm.

Presently however, I would only caution others to not be down stream when the excessive salivation flows after progressives claim one of their taboo words has been misused used by the general population. Misuse of progressive-speak is a veritable tar-baby, in today's tyrannical PC environment.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Further discussion about use of the term "Petroleum product Infant-American": http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/a...

foofighter (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Regressives are defendants, jurors, and practitioners of edgy terms they use to obfuscate issues...like, the "quagmire" of comments about Salud going to DC where he DID lobby for the County as well as get his photo op. SezMe's correct, "Should only people who can afford the time and money go to lobby in the capitol?"

DrDan (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No JL we're going to continue with you two hiding under rocks, you went too far. You know damn well that piece of garbage you're defending did not intend that slur in 5the manner s/he/it now states. They most likely did not even know such a background existed. I can't get lower than the rocks you two are cowering under.
You two HillWilliams deserve each other
BTW
I think Song of the South should be released for academics and adults. So bite me .

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm surprised you two were able to tear yourselves away from The Birth of a Nation long enough to be outraged.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

foofi, no need for justification.....you like to call a spade a spade. believe me, your stance is clear.

ignorant, but clear.

lawdy (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 11:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jeez, Ken_Volok, take your meds; your brain is melting down. I "know damn well" no such thing as what foo's intent was. Nor do you. Either there's more than one K_V or you've really gone around the bend, guy, into the name-calling and slime-slinging arena with DrDan and his ilk. "buncha pigs, piece a fooces, clueless moron, slimy, piece of garbage, bite me"???? You have descended to the lowest levels of name-calling, sir, consistent with irrational fury - the usual last resort of extremists of either wing. I gave up to DrDan as a hopeless case long ago, but now you too should take me off your mailing list.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One realistically expects a positive cost/benefit when taxpayer dollars are used when elected officials use our tax dollars to work on our behalf.

Waiting to see what was at stake in D.C and how Carbajal's physical presence influenced the direction of decisions beneficial for Santa Barbara county as a result of this trip. Plus more showing this could not have been accomplished by any other, less costly alternatives.

Otherwise, this trip may be viewed merely as a personal perk of the office with the costs passed on to be paid for with "other people's money".

Attending state meetings which more directly impact for our county have merit. Not sure in this case why the need to operate exclusively for Santa Barbara County at the national level made it essential for Mr Carbajal to make this trip. This will obviously come out in due time.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good riddance to white trash is all I have to say.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 2:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nothing so welcoming to see as progressives imploding under their own weight, without even needing to help. And in public no less. KV and DD are in a death spiral, sucking more than a few sycophants in their wake.

I hope hoisting themselves on their own petards does not interfere with the July 4th festivities, when we yet again celebrate our exceptional nation's founding.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wishful thinking Foo, we already won in 1945.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You two are like the Japanese vets they used to find on deserted islands who didn't know the war was over (and that they lost!)

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

this ilk off thread, see you on the next one

DrDan (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 5:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Foofighter: I'm very suspicious of people who say "African-American". It's as though they are trying to be politically correct to say how they really feel. I bet when you're alone with your friends, you use the term "black", regardless of what race they are!

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And I'll bet those who say "Hispanic" secretly use the "M" word. (You know, "M----n")

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 5:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"white trash"? Now THAT is racist.

dolphinpod14, are you trying to imply that Mexican and Black are racist terms?

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 6:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Will you agree to "HillWilliam" then?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'd agree to debate issues with facts and reasoned arguments, not to mention staying on topic. You used to do that...otherwise, do not call.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 6:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not even a postcard?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 7:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nada

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Then may I leave you with this parting serenade, so long... farewell..

http://www.rnh.com/videos.html?video=...

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"dolphinpod14, are you trying to imply that Mexican and Black are racist terms?"

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 6:37 p.m

No. I'm taking a poke at the capricious nature of political correctness. When I was a kid, "black" was not only acceptable, but embraced. The term "black is beautiful" was popular back then. Later, some uptight social engineers decided through inference that "black" was not acceptable, preferring "African-American". Today, the politicians say this, instead of "black". Nothing wrong with "black", but we've been conditioned to go along with the new term, and God knows when THAT will become unacceptable.

Let me give you two more reasons why I detest the term "African-American". First of all, the inconsistancy of saying "white" while saying "African-American". It should either be "black/white", or "African-American/European-American". The second reason is that if you see someone who appears to have dementia walking down the street wandering alone and are worried about them, when you call 9-1-1 (and assuming they are black) do you say "African-American"? Think about it, how do you know if the person (assuming you don't know them) is American? They could be from Africa, Europe, or anywhere else.

As for "Mexican". You notice how we don't say it even if we know the person is from Mexico or if we are referring to people from Mexico? Why say "Hispanic" or "Latino" when we know they are Mexican? Why is "Mexican" a taboo word?

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 9:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can understand why somebody from Guatemala wouldn't especially enjoy being called "Mexican". In fact it can go further back past national ancestry to tribal: Mayan, Aztec .. etc.
Chicano/a also was once a term of self identity that some people take offense to. In the end I think every generation wants their own identity.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 1, 2013 at 9:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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