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No More Right On Red at De La Vina and Carrillo

City Cites Super High Frequency of Accidents


Friday, September 20, 2013
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Drivers on De La Vina Street can no longer turn right onto Carrillo Street on a red light, the City of Santa Barbara announced Friday. Signs have been posted at that intersection — the city’s most dangerous for pedestrians, according officials — showing the change in rules. Since 2008, there have been 14 pedestrian-related accidents at that intersection, 10 of which involved people turning onto Carrillo during a red light and typically occurring when people were walking across Carrillo.

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How does this make any sense at all?
"Since 2008, there have been 14 pedestrian-related accidents at that intersection, 10 of which involved people turning onto Carrillo during a red light and typically occurring when people were walking across Carrillo."

If the light is red, they have no business walking across Carrillo.

So, basically, the reasoning is we should impede normally legal traffic flow so people can be safe while illegally ignoring a red light to cross the street?

cartoonz (anonymous profile)
September 23, 2013 at 3:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@Cartoonz, I agree that the author could certainly have been clearer. If "... there have been 14 pedestrian-related accidents at that intersection, 10 of which involved people turning onto Carrillo..." was changed to "... there have been 14 pedestrian-related accidents at that intersection, 10 of which involved CARS turning onto Carrillo..." the confusion would not exist.

freshpavement (anonymous profile)
September 23, 2013 at 6:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, that's not unclear. What I think he means is that if the light was red, the pedestrians were crossing Carillo against the light. But that's not necessarily true either as they may have been crossing de la Vina instead. Or it may be a three-way signal, of which I'm not sure.

Botany (anonymous profile)
September 23, 2013 at 7:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The pedestrians hit were crossing De la Vina Street and got hit by the drivers who were looking the opposite direction up towards the oncoming traffic on Carrillo St. A prohibition on a right turn would reduce the motivation for the drivers to ignore the pedestrians.

John_Adams (anonymous profile)
September 23, 2013 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In theory maybe. But would drivers that really ignore pedestrians actually pay attention to a sign prohibiting right turns on red? That's a bit a of leap.

Botany (anonymous profile)
September 23, 2013 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ban pedestrianing.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
September 23, 2013 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is a Communist conspiracy. No more right (as in "right wing") and no more red as in "red states".

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
September 23, 2013 at 3:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Was there yesterday afternoon. 3 of the 4 cars in front of me turned right on the red light.

John_Adams (anonymous profile)
September 24, 2013 at 9:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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