P Is for Pickle

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Measure P is not what it seems. Supporters of this measure want us all to think that it’s a ban on hydraulic fracturing. That is not what it is. Let’s be clear, there are no wells in the county that are being hydraulically fractured, nor are there plans for any in the future, according to a county report.

This measure bans all the safe and common practices in oil and gas production that have been utilized in our county for over 100 years. If this initiative passes, it would shut down about 90 percent of all oil and gas production in Santa Barbara County within five years. Thousands of men and women would be unemployed and serious negative impacts will be felt throughout the county.

California has some of the most stringent environmental regulations in the world. Seeing as we all rely on cars to get around, we are still heavily dependent on oil. So why shouldn’t we work to reduce our dependence on foreign oil? We can do it right here in our own county where we know it’s safe. We should continue making steps to be more energy independent.

Don’t be deceived by Measure P. I urge you to vote NO.


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Paula: You are from Santa Maria, and hence you cannot understand whats best for you. Our betters down south will guide us. They find it best to shut down the oil industry.

nuffalready (anonymous profile)
August 9, 2014 at 8:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You people are such idiots. It won't shut down the oil industry. Your PR firm has told you to keep saying it because lying is the only thing that could ever help you win.

nitrogen (anonymous profile)
August 9, 2014 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I WISH this would shut 'er down. you crazy.

spacey (anonymous profile)
August 9, 2014 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This letter is making false claims. The latest versions of this "100 yr old technology" didn't start till the 1990s, when oil engineers in Texas began combining fracking techniques with horizontal drilling, using higher volumes of pressurized water & chemical cocktails to release natural gas trapped in shale formations that hadn’t been reachable through vertical drilling.

It's the use of these higher levels of water, higher injection pressure & concentrations of chemical cocktails that gave rise to community concerns. A Court in Texas recently awarded millions to a family whose health was damaged from contamination by extreme oil extraction.

As for oil being shut down, thats untrue. The Measure bans FUTURE extreme drilling, allows current projects to continue regardless of type, & exemptions are being spelled out as we speak.

Paula, trying to pit north & south against one another is a typical & expected industry tactic. We are all in this together. Our water &air is your water and air. It's the foundation for everything else. Protect & preserve SB County YES on Measure P.

morgainele (anonymous profile)
August 9, 2014 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the whole "foreign dependence on oil" thing is a bit of a red herring. The root problem is dependence on oil. Period.

Besides, oil is a world commodity so prices are set in the global market, not local markets like Texas, California, or the U.S. And gasoline prices, though largely affected by global crude oil prices, are also influenced by U.S refiners. I love how they always decide to do plant maintenance in the spring just when demand is picking up - what a great excuse to say "oh, we've got two refineries down for maintenance, sorry but prices are going up".

EastBeach (anonymous profile)
August 9, 2014 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What part of not fracking in SB county do you south county people not understand? The geology of SB county is not compatible with fracking. The board of supervisors would never allow it either. Stop the Fracking discussions.
Measure "P" is a poorly written bill that is full of flaws.

Steaming has been part of SB county for 50 years. Hardly, new technology. The Water Guardians are experts on every county in North America but this one............

nativegeo (anonymous profile)
August 9, 2014 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nitrogen says it best; quit worrying about the nasty oil industry, how passe! Yes on P!!

DrDan (anonymous profile)
August 9, 2014 at 7:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a North County vs. South County Issue. A majority of the signatures acquired to get this Unconstitutional initiative (Now Measure P) on the November ballot mainly consist of registered college student voters that do not work and pay taxes in this county and will earn their respective degrees to eventually go work elsewhere. The movement also comes from the South County silver spooners who live off their family trust funds looking forward to Earth Day and the imaginary movement stemming from an oil spill that occurred over 40 years ago .

You folks in South County think you are better than the CEQA process? If had taken a second to look at these so called high intensity petroleum operations you will find that they are all in North County. You would also find that these projects have been through various forms of the CEQA process and do not exceed any of the County's Environmental Thresholds!

Instead you South County folks want your precious tourism industry. Really? What a dirty industry that is. How much water does South Santa Barbara county use to support tourism in the midst of a drought? How much air pollution do the millions of tourists bring to the South County every year?

You also claim to want to protect agriculture from the practices of the oil and gas industry. Really? Oil and Gas and agricultural have been compatible land use in the North for over 100 years, with no ill affects to valuable farm land. Oh wait in the South you consider Vineyards to be valuable agricultural when the crops they produce do not put food on the family dinner table, just wine in the bellies of the Southern fat cats.

Supporters of the initiative did do a great job of introducing lies and misinformation to the general public and it is painfully clear that the proponents want to cripple our livelihoods in the North!

Harold (anonymous profile)
August 11, 2014 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First off, Measure P WILL shut down the onshore oil industry in this county.
It may take a couple of years but when oil producers need to de-scale an injection well it won't be allowed. Nor will the drilling of a new well for that purpose.That's one of the cleverly written ways that it was designed. The water the "Water Gaurdians" want to protect is not used in the production cycle. Nor has it been affected by cyclic steaming, or de-scaling acidizing. The acidizing the WG speak of is a rock dissolving acid job that is not used in the county. Neither is the big bad boogey man nicknamed "fracking". The taking lawsuits that will be filed could bankrupt the county.
If this was a ban on hydraulic fracturing, the industry would be fine with that. As that technique is not used here. These people need to call the measure what it is: Anti-oil.
Measure P stands for Pretentious
NO on P

catskinner (anonymous profile)
August 14, 2014 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Do the Water Guardians realize that water wells are also acidized to remove scale? Same process and purpose as acidizing an oil and gas well. NO ON MEASURE P!

Harold (anonymous profile)
August 14, 2014 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Harold - " South County silver spooners who live off their family trust funds looking forward to Earth Day..."
And who may live in homes that are assets held in trust funds, with title changes within families without reappraisal; a lot more significant that Prop 13 in Santa Barbara County, I think.

14noscams (anonymous profile)
August 14, 2014 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not only water wells and oil wells, Harold; also residential water supply pipes. Santa Barbara County, because it's a has alkaline water containing enough CaCO3 and MgCO3 to clog pipes. Phosphoric acid (H3PO4) Limeaway, for example, is used commonly in south county households, and some "lime remover" brands also contain hydroflouric acid (HF).

14noscams (anonymous profile)
August 14, 2014 at 3 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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