Don’t P on Our Community

Friday, August 15, 2014
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Don’t let Measure P destroy our community

I love Santa Barbara County. My wife, daughter, and I were all born in Santa Maria. I work in a beautiful place most people on the Central Coast have probably never been; however, my job, as well as that of dozens of my coworkers, is in jeopardy because of the very misleading Measure P, which claims to be a no-fracking campaign. In reality, its real goal is to kill oil production in Santa Barbara County.

No oil company is Santa Barbara county fracks! There are already tight regulations against it. Here is the problem with Measure P: It bundles fracking, steaming, and well stimulation into a single package. If it passes it will stop proven, safe methods of oil recovery.

I work at the Cat Canyon oil field, a field that my father worked in 30 years ago; he used the same steam methods that we use today. We have been using the same safe method for the past 50 years to heat oil with steam using produced water and causing no issue with fresh water supplies. Why ban proven, safe, effective ways to produce oil?

If Measure P passes, our local schools, law enforcement, and fire protection agencies will lose millions, and the domino effect of losing one of our area’s biggest industries will be felt by thousands of people.

Don’t let the Water Guardians use the deceptive scare tactic of fracking to hurt our local oil companies and our local economy. This community was founded and built on oil; don’t let it be destroyed by outsiders who want to come in and cut off our roots.

Don’t P on our community. No on measure P!


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I must commend you on your personal testimony. You, and the future Dustin Bumgardner’s of Santa Barbara County will be the recipients of the repercussions of Measure P if it should pass on November 4. We, as a community; a community that share the same concerns of our quality of air and water, must stop the proponents of Measure P before they destroy the livelihoods, destroy the economic growth of Santa Barbara County, and destroy all growing industries in our County, with all of their untruths and misinformation regarding Measure P.
To all of the Dustin Bumgardner’s who work in Cat Canyon, Orcutt Hill, Careaga Canyon and so on; please tell your stories to the citizens of Santa Barbara County as to how Measure P, if passed, will affect you and your families. That’s right…families. I am thinking the Dustin Bumgardner’s are in their 30’s, with very young families. They are young men supporting their families with well paying jobs. They are young men who love their children. They will protect the oil fields just as they protect their children and their families. They want a safe and clean environment for their families to grow, just as we all do.
All who live and breathe in the Santa Barbara County, want to live and breathe clean air; drink safe water. The Water Guardians and their followers want us to believe that our air is not clean and our water is not safe to drink, because they think the oil industry is polluting our environment. Must I reiterate (I have posted comments the other related articles in the Independent and the Santa Maria Times. I am not an expert, I am a Santa Barbara County constituent who happens to be a woman); our air quality is the best it has been in 20 years. Our water is the safest, cleanest most regulated water we can drink.
What part of the Santa Barbara County do the proponents live in that is so environmentally unsafe? In order for their measure to pass, they have to use scare tactics to bring in more followers. Voters, please do not fall for these scare tactics. Do YOUR OWN research; don’t let the proponents persuade you with their untruths. Information for both sides of Measure P is out there. Shouldn’t YOU know what you are voting for or against on November 4?
Moms and Dads; Grandmothers and Grandfathers we must protect our children’s future. There are a lot of native Santa Barbara County residents; we have raised our children here. Our children are raising their children here. The oil industry has produced oil here for over 100 years. We all want to live in a safe and clean environment. Let’s not let the proponents of Measure P use the oil industry as a target for their agenda.
Vote “NO” on Measure P.

IAW (anonymous profile)
August 15, 2014 at 7:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dustin, you will have no family around here is (in) a couple hundred years from now, none of us will if we continue to put carbons like the product you manufacture into the atmosphere. My family was born and raised here too. I wish to see that continue into the far future. If you read the comments of others who support you, they would tell you to move to Bakersfield if you can't afford to live here anymore. I say there are other opportunities to make a living instead of making a killing for your bosses. There is a bigger picture, don't be shortsighted.

spacey (anonymous profile)
August 15, 2014 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Spacey, we've been here for a hundred plus years already and we will be here for another 200 plus. Santa Barbara has the largest concentration of natural occurring oil seeps in the western hemisphere. You'll need to move to escape the evils CARBON. Learn to co-exist.

nativegeo (anonymous profile)
August 15, 2014 at 5:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Spacey give the kid a break. He is out there making an honest living for his family. We all need the product he helps produce - OIL. Nativegeo is right on track maybe YOU and your greenies should move to another state and drive your battery powered cars. PS - I'll help you pack.

gearjammer (anonymous profile)
August 15, 2014 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Spacey. It seems you swallow the Al Gore-esque eco fearmongering whole. Maybe you should get out more. Talk to some real people. You'll feel much better.

nuffalready (anonymous profile)
August 15, 2014 at 5:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is almost funny in its deception. "We have been using produced water" .
Produced water? Come on sonny, who's writing this crap for you?

geeber (anonymous profile)
August 15, 2014 at 6:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Geeber, the produced water is saline water from the hydrocarbon zone, not the freshwater that you drink. The saline water is used to make steam not freshwater. Sonny is spot on. The deception you speak of, is measure P and the well funded con-artists behind it.

nativegeo (anonymous profile)
August 15, 2014 at 6:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It seems that the anti-Measure P proponents are willfully missing this, as so succinctly put by Katie Davis. They are deliberately muddying the waters, trying to imply that Measure P relates to current oil production. It does NOT.


The initiative exempts all current oil operations and does not affect any current oil jobs or revenue. It also doesn’t limit future oil wells using conventional techniques.


And those who tout current clean air and water, please do not forget who brought that state of affiars to you.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
August 16, 2014 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tabatha, news flash, Katie Davis isn't county council. Please stop with the constant disinformation. Measure P is so deceptive an poorly written, the lawyers will have to sort it out.

nativegeo (anonymous profile)
August 16, 2014 at 7:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Katie Davis is from the Water Guardians, that wrote Measure P.

"Exactly how the measure will affect current operations is one of the biggest bones of contention between the supporters and opponents of the measure.

Proponents say the measure exempts current operations and authorizes the Board of Supervisors to grant exceptions to any case that: “would constitute an unconstitutional taking of property”; and would “allow additional or continued land uses only to the minimum extent necessary to avoid such a taking.”

Attorneys from the Environmental Defense Center and Shute, Mihaly and Weinbeger, LLP, a San Francisco-based firm that wrote the measure, say existing operations are exempt from the restrictions.

“That’s not the intent of the measure,” said Rachel Hooper, who authored the measure, when asked if Measure P would affect existing operations. “The initiative is intended to be prospective only. (The exemptions) are interpreted to be prospective. That means they don’t apply to and wouldn’t shut down current operations.”"

Attorneys from the Environmental Defense Center and Shute, Mihaly and Weinbeger, LLP, a San Francisco-based firm that wrote the measure, say existing operations are exempt from the restrictions.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
August 16, 2014 at 8:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tabatha, you are right lots of unknowns, with measure P.

nativegeo (anonymous profile)
August 16, 2014 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Honest living? If he is making an honest wage at this, he is slaving away for somebody making millions. It seems to me if we have the largest concentration of seeps and the oil guys can't figure out a way to harvest, they might just suck at what they are doing. I mean, the stuff just seeps out of the ground yet they have to drill. 'Oh Spacey but the stuff that seeps out is not useable nitwit, you'd know that if you weren't such a stupid Al Gore loving, green tree hugging woman hippy.' So they can capture the energy off the sun, but oil people can't figure out how to use the seep... and it's all dirty energy. Y'all fear the future, no vision.

spacey (anonymous profile)
August 16, 2014 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to thank the environmentalists who got Measure P on the ballot. The price of an oil trust stock I have been watching has been driven down by measure P. Even if it passes by the vote it will not make it in the courts. What an opportunity to make some money.

Remember, “Buy Low and Sell High”

Joethomas (anonymous profile)
August 19, 2014 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The vultures are circling.

spacey (anonymous profile)
August 19, 2014 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank You Water Guardians!

"After measure P qualified for the ballot, the unemployment rate in Santa Barbara County jumped, according to the State Employment Development Department, from 5.4% in June to 6% in July."

nativegeo (anonymous profile)
August 19, 2014 at 1:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"No oil company is Santa Barbara county fracks!"

According to this LA Times article, Venoco has used fracking:

EastBeach (anonymous profile)
August 20, 2014 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No oil company uses Hydrofracturing ONSHORE.

catskinner (anonymous profile)
August 21, 2014 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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