Purity of Essence

Sounds a little Dr. Strangelove and Ripper's concerns for our precious bodily fluids.

There surely is an island where you will feel safe with the sea breezes blowing and you won't have to worry about using all the petroleum based products that you now using. Take your friends with you. Do you think you are going to change the world? I have news for you, I am an environmentalist too, but I try to keep this in prospective. Lets concentrate on safety while using the God given mineral that we have. Why should we continue to give people billions that do nothing but hate us while beheading our people doing their job.

LET US KEEP THE SOLAR PROJECTS IN SOUTH COUNTY

Horror at the world's largest solar farm days after it opens as it is revealed panels are SCORCHING birds that fly over them

Environmentalists have hit out at a giant new solar farm in the Mojave Desert as mounting evidence reveals birds flying through the extremely hot 'thermal flux' surrounding the towers are being scorched.
After years of regulatory tangles around the impact on desert wildlife, the Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System opened on Thursday but environmental groups say the nearly 350,000 gigantic mirrors are generating 1000 degree Fahrenheit temperatures which are killing and singeing birds

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/S...

I'm just being a good neighbor.

and there it is, god has finally entered the building. Us vs them mentality which we have to thank for the fine mess we are now in again. 'god given mineral' is my fave because molly uses the word 'safety' in the same sentence. Why do I only see pro oil shills using the 'SCORCHING birds' bit?

Spacey lets all support an Ivanpah 2.0 in south county. It is time to put our differences aside a deliver some real solutions. Clean renewable Ivanpah 2.0 in south county Santa Barbara. Lets all co-exist.

PV is now competitive with Ivanpah type plants and also with fossil fuel generators. Since the water table is dropping in Cuyama and it will not support a high level of farming in the future lets build solar there like SLO County did (550) megawatts. All we need is to upgrade the transmission lines and expedite the permits like Kern County did (10,000) megawatts of renewables there). There are ways to warn or exclude most birds from wind and PV areas.

classic NIMBY answer alset108.

Solar Power Poses Lower Risk to Birds Than Cats or Cars

Solar-thermal power plants in the U.S. are less likely to kill birds than automobiles, cats or communication towers, despite reports that say the facilities pose a significant threat to avian life.

There were 321 “avian fatalities” in the first half of this year at the 392-megawatt Ivanpah solar project in Southern California, according to a statement Aug. 19 from NRG Energy Inc. (NRG), which co-owns and operates it. Of those, 133 were scorched by heat produced by the plant.

That’s far fewer than reported in an Associated Press article on Aug. 18. It cited federal wildlife investigators who estimated that one bird was burned every two minutes by concentrated sunlight at the Mojave Desert power plant.

The estimates for birds killed by solar power are “inflated,” NRG spokesman Jeff Holland said in an interview.

A greater risk comes from cats, which are estimated to kill hundreds of millions of birds each year. Cars are responsible for about 60 million deaths, according to the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service, and communication towers add another four million to five million. Wind turbines killed 573,000 birds in 2012.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08...

How many cats do you have Tabatha?

Zero.

Way to deflect the numbers.

Tabatha this is my favorite Bloomberg news article:

Europe Risks Losing 30 Million Jobs to U.S. Shale Boom

The U.S. shale-gas boom is placing 30 million jobs at risk in Europe as companies with greater reliance on energy contend with higher fuel prices than their American counterparts, the International Energy Agency said.

Manufacturers of petrochemicals, aluminum, fertilizers and plastics are leaving Europe to take advantage of booming U.S. production of natural gas from shale rock formations, Fatih Birol, chief economist for the International Energy Agency, a Paris-based adviser to 29 nations, said at a conference in London today.

“Many petrochemicals companies in central Europe are moving out,” Birol said. “Thirty million jobs are in danger.”

The U.S. has become the world’s largest producer of oil and gas as hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling help producers extract resources from shale rock. The country’s refineries processed a record volume of crude last week as plants took advantage of cheaper domestic crudes. Chemical makers from Germany’s BASF SE to Brazil’s Braskem SA plan to invest as much as $72 billion in U.S. plants to take advantage of low-cost natural gas feedstock.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07...

I agree with Obama, we need an "all of the above energy policy"
Vote NO on Measure P

@nativegeo, if I was coordinating the efforts on the No on Measure P side, I'd kick you off the team. You aren't helping your side with your childish posts.

What is childish about 30 million jobs? Let me guess you don't like birds?

It doesn't bother you that your side is frying endangered and threatened birds in mid air. The best you can do is childish.

“There is an unbelievable amount of money behind the environmental movement and far too much collusion between far-left environmental groups and the Obama EPA,” said Sen. David Vitter (R-La.), the senior Republican on the Senate committee who oversaw the investigation. “This report really gets to the core of tracking the money and exposing the collusion.

The network relies on an “incredibly sophisticated” system of front groups and the exploitation of loopholes in the tax code. The Billionaires Club’s machinations also involve “a close knit network of like-minded funders, environmental activists, and government bureaucrats who specialize in manufacturing phony ‘grassroots’ movements and in promoting bogus propaganda disguised as science and news to spread an anti-fossil energy message to the unknowing public,”.

The network funds pseudo-scientific research. The findings are then disseminated by far-left “media” outlets such as the Huffington Post and Mother Jones that are also receiving Billionaires Club funds. “In one example, a story reporting on a Park Foundation-supported anti-fracking study was reproduced by a Park-funded news organization through a Park-funded media collaboration where it was then further disseminated on Twitter by the maker of Park-backed anti-fracking movies,”

Three radical outfits in particular were identified as serving key roles in the scheming of the network: the Environmental Grantmakers Association, the Democracy Alliance, and the Divest/Invest movement. Other crucial components of the phony grassroots network involved in financing the deception and extremism include the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, the Schmidt Family Foundation created by Google boss Eric Schmidt, and the infamous Heinz Family Foundation largely controlled by Secretary of State John Kerry’s wife.

Another one of the “dominant” outfits in the pseudo-environmentalist movement exposed in the report is the California-based “Sea Change Foundation.” According to the Senate report and other investigations, the group relies heavily on funding from a shady Bermuda-based “company” that the Washington Free Beacon reported “appears only to exist on paper.” Sea Change, in turn, “funnels tens of millions of dollars to other large but discreet foundations and prominent environmental activists who strive to control both policy and politics,” the report says. Other funding sources for Sea Change include billionaire population control zealot Bill Gates of Common Core infamy, top establishment insider and anti-sovereignty extremist David Rockefeller, and retail giant Walmart.

The uber-wealthy financiers of the AstroTurf network are also experts at turning phony tax-deductible “charitable” contributions into political outcomes, the report found. The extremely well-funded far-left outfits are even accused of potentially running afoul of U.S. law by laundering “dark money” through front companies and non-profit “educational” groups to influence elections

Eric Schmidt is part owner of Invanpah Solar

"Wind turbines killed 573,000 birds in 2012."

'There were 321 “avian fatalities” in the first half of this year, Of those, 133 were scorched by heat produced by the plant." Just one Solar plant!!!

Google's Eric Schmidt is part owner of Invanpah Solar

anybody else think 30 million jobs sounds ridiculous? Do we get those 30 million jobs they are losing? and, if we are producing that kind of boom, why is the price still so dang high? Look at all those paragraphs trying to convince someone, anyone. ' the infamous Heinz Family' as opposed to the infamous Exxon Valdez, BP gulf of Mexico - Let's just stop there.

Europe is likely to lose more jobs from their stupid economic policies than they are from the shale oil boom.

Farming and Fracking: A Farmer's View

Environmental extremists are using hydraulic fracturing as a Trojan horse in their efforts to stop all oil production in our state.

California already has the toughest standards in the nation regulating oil production. Gov. Jerry Brown last year signed the most stringent protections in the nation. This legislation requires mandatory chemical disclosure, regular testing of well and drinking water sources, and notification of surrounding landowners.

A recent economic analysis found that the oil and gas industry is responsible for more than 24,000 total jobs on the Central Coast. In 2012 alone, the industry statewide paid more than $21 billion in state and local taxes.

With the strong safeguards our state already has in place, California has the opportunity to achieve energy independence, create high-quality jobs and generate much-needed revenue to fund the programs our community needs.

All businesses, including (yes, believe it or not) farmers, are evolving and adapting to green energy solutions. It isn’t an overnight quick fix proposal. Until we are able to make that transition we need to be more “energy independent” as a state and nation, and not cave in to radical and scientifically incorrect views.

Let’s not allow unfounded fear to stand in the way of California’s safe and affordable energy future.

VOTE NO ON P

http://benitolink.com/farming-and-fra...

Hey Water Guardians:
Nativegeo just pointed out that you are another well-funded front group of the environmentalist whacko Billionaire Club.

Care to answer? What is all this nonsense about grass roots? You did claim to be 'grassroots' did you not?

We saw the water guardian Janet Blevins at her best today at the planning commission meeting. In the past she called oil "dirty filty oil". Today, while speaking at the podium, she called out a person's name in the audience and said the chart he referred to in his presentation showing the air quality improvement was "not true" even though she went on to say she was a member of the Santa Barbara APCD. The gentleman then asked, "why did you publish it?" She had no answer. Need I say more? Vote NO on Measure P.

EU is running out of new markets and cheap labor to exploit.

I copied this from "TacoTuesday" It would be funny if it weren't true:

"This one time, at Water Guardian Camp, we stayed up late and watched 'Gasland' and took shots of kombucha tea every time they said the word fracking."

"This one time, at Water Guardian Camp, we had a pillow fight with these really cool hipster Marxist revolutionary kids from System Change Not Climate Change who helped us canvass UCSB for petition signatures...it was so much fun!"

"This one time, at Water Guardian Camp, we listened to one of our leaders, Katie Davis tell us about her personal training with Al Gore at Climate Reality Project, but that we should all feel super special because we're grassroots."

"This one time, at Water Guardian Camp, we thought it would be fun to pull our socks up to our knees and put our Teva sandals on opposite feet while we weaved hemp root friendship bracelets and listened to 350.org conference calls about what our next event should be."

"This one time, at Water Guardian Camp, our leaders Katie and Rebecca told us that Google billionaire Eric Schmidt who runs CAFrackFacts.org said not to worry about all the hundreds of jobs that will be lost in the county because you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet."