Jackson, Williams to Host Health Care Reform Meeting

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State Sen. Hannah-Beth Jackson and Assemblymember Das Williams will host a town-hall forum on 1/18 at 10:30 a.m. at the Franklin Elementary School cafeteria to explain how federal health-care reform will affect Californians. The enrollment period for health insurance began in October and goes through March 31. This week, Covered California Executive Director Peter Lee said nearly 500,000 Californians have already signed up. According to a Covered California spokesperson, regional data is not yet available. “We can’t lose sight of the visionary goal behind health care reform: that health care is a right, not a privilege, and that everyone should have access to the care they need,” Jackson said. Covered California representatives will also attend on Saturday to answer questions, and Spanish translation will be available.


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Hannah-Beth Jackson: “We can’t lose sight of the visionary goal behind health care reform: that health care is a right, not a privilege, and that everyone should have access to the care they need.”

What a load of rubbish.

Obamacare is the biggest insurance scam in history, yet another massive Obama handout to corporations. Billions of tax dollars are being spent to compel people to purchase private health plans, using the government to sell and subsidize them.

Hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent to hire and train people to go door to door peddling insurance for private corporations — and more millions to produce hokey advertising campaigns. And then hundreds of millions, perhaps billions, to subsidize the purchase of that private insurance.

And what does the taxpayer receive for these billions of dollars of public money being spent on behalf of private corporations?: applicants across the country are finding their premiums are tripling, their favorite doctors aren't available, the specialists they can see are often 50 miles or more distant, and many prestigious hospitals offering specialized care are off-limits to them.

And when the whole corrupt, rotten scheme fails due to adverse selection, more hundreds of millions, perhaps billions, of public money will be spent to bail out these private corporations, not unlike the trillions of public dollars Bush and Obama handed over to transnational banks.

Regarding CoveredCalifornia, the California Obamacare exchange: it was caught deliberately disclosing to random private insurance companies, without authorization, the names and personal information of tens of thousands of California residents.

Covered California's website also fraudulently lists many doctors as participants. Lisa Folberg, vice president of medical and regulatory policy for the California Medical Association (CMA), stated: “Some physicians have been put in the network and they were included basically without their permission.”

Dr. Richard Thorp, CMAs president, estimates that 70% of California physicians are rebelling against Obamacare and won't participate.

San Diego National Association of Health Underwriters certified agent Neil Crosby stated that "65 to 70 percent of the providers have declined the reimbursement schedules the carriers are offering. They will not be providers in the exchange marketplace.” He also reports that prestigious hospitals such as Cedars-Sinai and UCLA Medical Center will not be available to exchange patients.

In Sacramento, agent David Fear reported: "Roughly a third of the doctors are going to be accepted in the networks. I’m finding very few specialists in either the Anthem or Blue Shield networks.” He estimated that Anthem exchange customers in the Sierra Nevada foothills will need to travel 50 miles to their nearest hospital.


JohnTieber (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 3:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)


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'Survey finds doctors rebelling against Obamacare, famous hospitals declining to join'

'Shrinking Hospital Networks Greet Health-Care Shoppers on Exchanges'

'New State Data On Obamacare Enrollment Trends Show How Scheme Is Failing'

'Adverse Selection: Obamacare Exchange Enrollment Skews Much Older Than U.S. Population; Cost Increases Likely'

'Insurers Cut Doctors' Fees in New Plans, Wall Street Journal Reports'

'49-State Analysis: Obamacare To Increase Individual-Market Premiums By Average Of 41%'

JohnTieber (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 4 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Few industry leaders want to go back to a system that most had concluded was failing, as costs skyrocketed and the ranks of the uninsured swelled.

Nor do they see much that is promising from the law's Republican critics. The GOP has focused on repealing Obamacare, but has devoted less energy to developing a replacement.

Healthcare industry officials generally view several GOP proposals, such as limiting coverage for the poor and scuttling new insurance marketplaces created by the law, as more damaging than helpful to the nation's healthcare system.

"The principle of providing the opportunity for everyone to get health coverage and of joining everybody together in shared responsibility is the right one," said James Roosevelt Jr., president of Tufts Health Plan, one of Massachusetts' largest insurers. "No one has presented a credible alternative."

The value of the alliance between the administration and major insurers, hospitals, clinics and others in the healthcare industry can readily be seen in steps they have taken to help the White House overcome the rocky start of the law's new insurance marketplaces.

Insurers, for example, are working with the administration to enroll consumers directly in health plans for next year, bypassing the troubled website that residents of 36 states were supposed to be able to use to select a health plan.

Major retail pharmacies, such as CVS Caremark, have agreed to market the law's benefits in their stores. And hospitals and health clinics in many states are helping patients sign up for coverage.

For many of these organizations, the prospect of new customers and a more rational system outweighs their sometimes intense irritation with the Obama administration."

***** Few industry leaders want to go back to a system that most had concluded was failing, as costs skyrocketed and the ranks of the uninsured swelled. *****

Medicare Part D took about 2 years to get right. People who would like to see fewer people uninsured and costs go down, are helping to get the system right. If you think any huge program like this is perfect right out of the box, you are delusional.

And this sentence describes your post
"Healthcare industry officials generally view several GOP proposals, such as limiting coverage for the poor and scuttling new insurance marketplaces created by the law, as more damaging than helpful to the nation's healthcare system."

tabatha (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 6:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"that health care is a right, not a privilege, and that everyone should have access to the care they need,” Jackson said."

I gotta start smoking what this idiot is smoking… Can someone ask this POS on what paragraph of the state or federal constitution this "Right" exists? People have access, nobody has EVER been turned away from getting treatment. Just another left-wing POS lie to get people stirred up who have low intelligence and are unable to understand right from wrong or lies being told by POS politicians with an agenda..


See how easy that was…….

Priceless (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 7:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

@Priceless: "People have access, nobody has EVER been turned away from getting treatment. "

Absolutely, 100% not true. I personally know people (and in one case, 'have known', as that person later passed away) who have been denied treatment or were delayed the diagnosis of a treatable illness (which can be fatal) due to not having insurance. It happens all of the time,

Putting health care in the hands of private industry (e.g. commoditizing the health of your citizens) is INSANE - which is why no other industrialized country does it. And giving the insurance companies more power by deregulation and tort reform is even more nuts.

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 7:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And people who did not have insurance in the old system, clogged the more expensive emergency rooms.

They also delayed treatment, until it got really bad - and hence treatment cost more than if the problem had been nipped in the bud before it became catastrophic.

And guess who had to pay for the uninsured - the people who were insured, by increasing their premiums.

And the reason there is reform now was because it WAS in the hands of the private industry, and hence was the MOST expensive treatment in the world, and not the best in the world. It did not rank as #1.

Medical lawsuits cost a small % of health costs - do the research - it is a myth that they contribute greatly. Check Snopes or Factcheck.

And how exactly is insurance across state lines going to help?

All of your points are the standard "talking points" that should be checked for validity. They are not valid.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 8:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Results of Tort Reform Do Not Reduce Health Care Costs

Proponents of medical malpractice tort reform typically promise voters that new laws will help reduce health care costs. The fear of medical malpractice lawsuits, so the theory goes, pushes doctors to perform more tests than necessary, increasing costs. Reducing the fear of malpractice litigation, therefore, should reduce costs. Early studies, however, indicate this is not the case.

In Texas, tort reform passed in 2003 limited payouts in medical malpractice lawsuits. Researchers from the University of Texas examined Medicare spending in Texas counties between 2002 and 2009 to look at the results of the reform. They saw no reduction in doctor’s fees for seniors and disabled patients. In addition, results showed that Medicare payments to doctors rose 1-2 percent faster in Texas than in the rest of the country.

Those advocating tort reform also typically state that reform makes states more friendly for physicians, increasing patient access to the healthcare providers they need. The study found no evidence to support this claim either, noting that physician supply did not improve after reform.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"In 2005, the Congressional Budget Office was asked to analyse a very similar piece of legislation.

Overall, it concluded, the legislation would lower the cost of health insurance by 5 percent, but in doing so it would create significant problems in addition to those outlined above.

It found that if policies are sold across state lines, out-of-state companies would swoop in to "cherry-pick" the healthiest customers in other states with cheaper policies, leaving higher-cost customers to buy coverage from in-state providers. That in turn would jack up the cost of the in-state policies, forcing even more people to turn to out-of-state companies. Rising costs would force many other people to drop their private coverage altogether and turn to Medicaid instead, increasing the number of people relying on government-provided insurance.

In addition, CBO concluded that it would also reduce the number of those on employer-provided insurance:

"Based on CBO’s analysis of research on the responses of individuals and firms to changes in the price of health insurance, CBO estimates that, if the full effect of H.R. 2355 were realized immediately, about 1 million people—including both employees and covered dependents—would lose employer-sponsored health insurance coverage."

That's what "selling insurance across state lines" would actually mean to consumers."

tabatha (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Working at the time as the chief health policy counsel for US Senator Max Baucus [D], who later described Obamacare as a "train wreck," the chief architect of Obamacare was Elizabeth Fowler, formerly Vice President of Public Policy for WellPoint, the largest health insurer in the country.

Ignoring what works best for much of the civilized world, Obama refused to seriously consider single-payer, and Obamacare was written by and for the private insurance industry, with the goal of raising its profits with 50 million mandated new customers.

It's becoming increasingly clear even to the poorly-informed that Obamacare is a compulsory shakedown forcing everyone to purchase insurance from private entities (i.e. an ugly patch on an ugly system), that for many will be too expensive, even with government subsidies — or unaffordable to use — or both. It is yet another private sector ripoff of the people, this time mandated by the blue gang [D], as are Obama's criminal drone wars and bank and corporate bailouts, which together constitute the largest transfer of public funds to the elite in US history.

Enrollment does not equal access: Obamacare works for the insurance companies much more than for the uninsured.

The cost of using it once purchased is often prohibitive for those who most need the coverage, and often amounts to a substantial pay cut for people struggling to pay their bills. Its success is dependent in large part on healthy young people (many struggling with student loan bubble debt — another DC sham — while working, if at all, at part-time low wage jobs thanks to the Bush/Obama economy) ignoring the remarkably high deductibles ($6000 is not unusual), and purchasing, assuming they can afford even $150 per month, what for them (considering the co-pays as well), at best may be little more than catastrophic coverage.

It may take a year or two for this to be clearly evident to the uninformed, but likely the primary beneficiaries of Obamacare will be the insurance company moguls and the extremely impoverished who can ignore the IRS threats as they have no assets that the government can seize.

The red gang [R] are right to oppose Obamacare, but they are opposing it largely for ideological reasons, ignoring more effective strategies. Defunding may not even be necessary: increasing numbers of the red gang are joining progressive members of the blue gang [D] in the belief and hope that it may simply collapse in on itself.

JohnTieber (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Whoa, health care is not a right. It remains a privilege offered by those qualified and licensed to provide it. When when did this service become a "right" that can be demanded from health care professionals?

Health care is not in our Bill of Rights. It is not even in our penumbra of rights. If it ain't in the constitution, your stroke of the pen does not create it, HB.

Hannah-Beth is way off track on this one. Here is how you make it a "right". You pay to train your own personnel and force them sign agreements they will provide health care services, or else. Then you can make health care a "right".

Once it is a public right, the public also has the right to demand people live healthy lives and we can snoop, micro-manage and punish anything the majority deems "unhealthy".

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 10:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

People with subsidized Obamacare plans are also going to clog up emergency rooms because they most likely will not have cash up front to pay their deductibles, since they can't even pay the premiums.

Obamacare is only a change in who pays for what is called "health care" in the US. Except what we call "health care" (throw money at what we call sickness) is NOT health care. Obamacare is merely a wealth redistribution scheme and has nothing at all even remotely to do with actual health care.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Health care reform means we stop doing what does not work so we can come close to the quality of care found in other nations, which pay one half of what we are now paying.

Obamacare continues to pay those exorbitant rates but puts that cost burden on other people, while doing nothing to change the health care delivery model which is ineffective as well as financially ruinous.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thursday Funnies at it again!!

I am humbled and overwhelmed at the Einsteins who live among us. We are truly blessed at the amount of "experts" we have here in SB in the field of law enforcement and in the health industry.

Just love the comment of "100% not true". We, I beg the differ. There are laws that prevent hospitals from delivering care. Ever been to an ER??? It's constantly clogged with illegals. Just go to Cottage any day any time…

If any of you Einsteins believe Obamacare is the answer I have beach front property on Mars I'll sell cheap. First come first serve no questions..

There is a reason that people from other countries who have similar healthcare as Obamacare have come to the US for decades. If any of you think the young, the homeless or illegals are going to sign up for Obamacare you live in an absolute different world than I. Anybody with half the brain of a monkey can realize IT AIN"T GONNA WORK!!!!

Keep it going though I love the daily comics!!!!!

Priceless (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@Priceless: "Just love the comment of '100% not true'. We, I beg the differ. There are laws that prevent hospitals from delivering care. Ever been to an ER???"

I think you should go to the ER and request an immediate brain transplant.

@Pricess: "Anybody with half the brain of a monkey..."

Apparently, you already got one.

EatTheRich (anonymous profile)
January 16, 2014 at 7:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Conservative and Republican affiliated groups have started the 2014 assault against Democrats who support Obamacare. At the very same time, it is increasingly clear Republicans are laying the groundwork to abandon their opposition to Obamacare.

The Business Roundtable, which has a great relationship with Republican Leaders, is now listing Obamacare as an entitlement worth preserving.

Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a former economic advisor to John McCain and who opposed passage of Obamacare, has started a think tank premised on keeping, but fixing, Obamacare. Holtz-Eakin has the ear of Republican leaders. In 2009, Mitch McConnell appointed him to the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission.

The Chamber of Commerce is declaring it will work to fix, not repeal, Obamacare. In fact, just last week the head of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce said, “The administration is obviously committed to keeping the law in place, so the chamber has been working pragmatically to fix those parts of Obamacare that can be fixed.”"

LOL. Obamacare originated with the Heritage Foundation's counter to Clintoncare. Those who oppose ACA/Obamacre, have not offered up an alternative, because it would look like Obamacare.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
January 17, 2014 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Apparently, the Chamber of Commerce and Douglas Holtz-Eakin have "half the brain of a monkey".

tabatha (anonymous profile)
January 17, 2014 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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