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Eight more suspects have been arrested for participating in the Deltopia riot following an investigation that collected anonymous tips and video footage, the Santa Barbara Sheriff’s Office announced Wednesday. Authorities say 26 civilians and seven law enforcement officials were injured when rioters threw rocks, bricks, and bottles at them during the four-hour melee on April 5. Detectives traveled to Lake Tahoe, the San Francisco Bay Area, and Los Angeles to detain the suspects. “Our message is clear,” said Sheriff Bill Brown in a statement. “If you engage in this type of criminal activity, we will track you down, arrest you, and bring you to justice.”

The number of out-of-towners who flocked to Isla Vista to attend the annual unsanctioned event is unprecedented, said Sheriff’s spokesperson Kelly Hoover. Of the 457 adults arrest or cited during Deltopia, 141 were identified as college students, mostly from California campuses. Of the college arrestees, 21 attended UCSB, and 22 attended SBCC. The rest were from out-of-area colleges. Thirteen juveniles were also arrested.

The person authorities say ignited the riot appeared in court again this week. Judge Brian Hill released Los Angeles resident Desmond Edwards on his own recognizance with the conditions that he stay out of Santa Barbara County except for court hearings, abstain from drugs or alcohol, and check in weekly with the probation department. Edwards had been in Juvenile Hall on a $75,000 bail since his April arrest. Charged with assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest with the enhancement of inflicting great bodily injury, Edwards will be back in court on August 12.

Names and charges of the newly arrested individuals are below:

– Agustin Guerrero, 23, was arrested at his work place in Oxnard on July 11. Authorities say Guerrero threw a large rock at a van, prompting and encouraging a mob of people to “completely destroy” the vehicle. Detectives seized several pieces of evidence at his home and booked Guerrero on a $50,000 arrest warrant. He also had a $5,000 unrelated traffic warrant, according to Hoover.

– Geddy Miller, 19, was arrested in South Lake Tahoe on April 18. Miller was booked on charges of inciting a riot and felony vandalism because video footage caught him jumping on top of the aforementioned van, Hoover said.

– William Hopkins, 22, a UCSB student, was arrested in Goleta on April 6 for refusing to disperse and remaining at a riot.

– Arron Cozza, 19, of Arroyo Grande was arrested on April 10 at SBCC. Video footage caught Cozza pulling a stop sign out of the ground and waving it around, Hoover said. He was charged with receiving stolen property and theft.

– Mike Duenas, 20, of Acton, was arrested on April 10 for charges of inciting a riot.

– Austin Escobedo, 21, was arrested in Santa Barbara on April 15 for making terrorist threats and participating in a riot.

– Jorge Santana, 21, was arrested in San Lorenzo on April 17. Authorities say Santana threw two canisters of tear gas at Sheriff’s deputies. He was charged with obstructing and resisting a peace officer.

– Justin Mott, 18, of Valencia, was arrested on May 21. Authorities say he vandalized a car in a grocery store parking lot in Goleta after the Deltopia destruction. He was charged with felony vandalism.

The Sheriff’s Office also sent four cases — ranging from being present at a riot to felony vandalism — to the District Attorney’s Office for review.

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Only one UCSB student in the mix - it's those jerk-off outsiders who cause most of the problems . . .

GandG (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's correct GandG, the jerk-off outsiders in the blue uniforms started the riot and caused most of the problems.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Spot on loonpt! You're damn right(although they're tan uniforms for the shiffty sherrifs, not blue)

One of the kids was arrested for throwing tear gas canisters at the cops! What?!! They threw them at him first no? Unless these "jerk-off outsiders" are rollin' around with tear gas at the ready, there's only one gang who carries those that we know of.

Draconian baboons.

Nuff said

calicaledonia (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Check this out:

Border Patrol Agents in Murrieta, CA were tasked with bringing illegal immigrants in buses to a facility there, however there was a planned protest by the community to physically stop the buses from coming in so the US Department of Homeland Security sent the Border Patrol Agents some riot gear and some personnel to help deal with the situation, creating a physical altercation if they had to.

Well, the Border Patrol Agents are ALSO members of that community and they all declared a mutiny and REFUSED to continue busing in the illegal immigrants in order to avoid a physical altercation with their own community members!!

Congratulations is in order for the Murietta, CA Border Patrol agents who decided to stand-up for the peaceful protesters and not engage them in a physical, violent altercation just so they can keep their Mexican Concentration Camps running!!

As much as I think IV is it's own community, really, I wish that there wasn't such hostility created between them and the rest of SB County because it is really unnecessary. However the impact clearly is that the officers there don't feel much of a connection to IV as a community. In fact, I was always told that it is more like a training ground and they bring in rookie cops from all over to train there since there is a lot of action and people to bust on the weekends, but it is usually very safe compared to say the inner cities of major metropolitan areas.

That is why I advocate for increased CSO patrols because CSO officers are students and actual community members. I would advocate for a smaller police force, as a big force would not be necessary if they stopped enforcing the underage drinking ordinance on private property, got rid of the special noise ordinances on big weekends and increased the weekend noise ordinance until 1am or 2am.

If students weren't scared of being busted for stupid stuff like alcohol and weed, then 99% would have no problem with CSO officers and a few police making sure that things are staying safe. However when nobody respects the police because they are busting people for stupid things, then they aren't going to respect them when they start busting people for legitimate grievances like damaging cars, property and fights.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 2:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

good start, there's probably 100 more idiots they should be able to wrangle up using video and photo evidence from social media.

StockiestCastle (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

But no video from the incident where the kid "hit the officer with a backpack full of bottles"? Interesting...

laxer (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm confused. Someone enlighten me regarding why anyone would attend Deltopia. Why is it considered "fun." Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a good party with lively and intelligent conversation. I enjoy a day at the beach, surfing, body surfing, throwing the Frisbee around and such. God knows I enjoy a drink or two or three or six. But it escapes me how wondering about the streets of Isla Vista for a day drinking oneself into a stupor would be considered "fun." Please don't give me the "cruising for chicks" explanation. I doubt whether anybody ever hooked up in an environment like Deltopia unless is was a matter of rape. So if they weren't coming to Isla Vista to have "fun," perhaps they were coming to Isla Vista to get drunk and riot. In which case they got what they came for and perhaps will go to jail as a bonus. Good job losers.

Eckermann (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 8:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Eckemann I will undergo the task of answering "enlightening" you per your request:

The answer to your question is, because you have a functioning brain and common sense, and these Deltards are part of the dumbing down of our world.

No Eckermann, you are not crazy: Deltopia is about spoiled brats reeking havoc.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 8:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Deltopia was a false flag event designed to take away our stop signs.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't the bicyclists run through them anyway?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 9:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wonder if the dude waving the stop sign has seen the video and how stupid he looked.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

gee, Eck, am I out of it or isn't the reason many came to Deltopia from far and wide is the rumor of hot young women, and men, wanting to drink and party and sure, get it on? Rather crass, yes, but...

DrDan (anonymous profile)
July 16, 2014 at 11:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm sure a majority of peops came (no pun intended) for the reasons Dr. Dan described but there's always a crew of peops who think they have to prove something, especially when the third item on the agenda isn't fulfilled.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 17, 2014 at 1:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"peops" "peons" "puns". Is there a connection here?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
July 17, 2014 at 2:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NAIL THEM TO THE WALL! EVERY SINGLE ONE! NO PRISONERS! PROSECUTE TO THE FULLEST! GET EM' BOYS! Awesome job SB County Sheriffs.
DA, it is UP TO YOU TO MAKE THE CHARGES STICK. No mercy, no plea bargain, no special deals, NAIL THEM!
Enough of bad behavior going unpunished, lets see every single one of these idiots get what they deserve. NAIL EM'!

blahblahmoreblah (anonymous profile)
July 17, 2014 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Eckermann seems to be making the mistake of assuming most of these people came by themselves. No, they come with their friends and most of them have friends or at least acquaintances who live in IV. Partying with your friends is obviously fun for a lot of people, in fact the majority of people I know had fun doing that in college and beyond.

There were hundreds of thousands of attendants at the recent EDC festival in Vegas and they all spent hundreds of dollars on tickets and likely hundreds of dollars on hotels. There will be hundreds of thousands of attendants at Burning Man in Nevada later this year, again tickets cost hundreds of dollars. Getting together with large groups of people is something that a lot of folks like to do. If you don't like it, then don't do it. It's not that hard. Sort of like if you're not gay, instead of complaining about gay people and how you can't understand why they would possibly want to be that way or do what they do, just don't be gay.

I see you people on here having so much fun typing on your computers, then I see people in IV having the time of their lives and you have the gal to say that you don't understand what the fun of getting together in large gatherings and partying is all about?? Well that's just too bad, but I'll tell you what, in 20 years I guarantee all of the 20 year olds will be doing the same thing and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it so you may as well accept it.

The guy who had the STOP sign was telling the cops to STOP causing the riot and STOP causing violence. He will probably be rewarded for his actions in the next life. The cops who caused the riot will probably not be rewarded for their actions because they are violent tools of the state and they are thugs who don't like seeing other people have a good time.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 17, 2014 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And for someone to insinuate that nobody in IV had sex during deltopia unless it was rape has got to be the most naive thing I've read in my entire life. Holy cow, do you people just sit on your computers all day and night?? Do you ever get out of the house?? Is this the Indy comment section or a old folks home? Actually, STDs are becoming rampant in old folks homes these days, I guess most people here live locked in a bomb shelter underneath a church or something.

I happened to see del playa last night after dropping off a friend in IV, it was a Wednesday night in the middle of summer and there were thousands of drunk people walking around and partying all over IV and hundreds of house parties everywhere, it looked like a typical Friday night in IV. Everyone looked like they were having a blast, and being a Wednesday night I'm not thinking these were a bunch of out-of-towners.. Party on Wayne, party on Garth.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 17, 2014 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Loon, I saw that guy with the sign assault people , actual students who tried to stop him, reason with him, or just try to get by him. He was causing additional problems and damage,

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 17, 2014 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

* it was on KEYT-TV live as it was happening. It was ridiculous.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 17, 2014 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Eckerman said `Please don't give me the "cruising for chicks" explanation. I doubt whether anybody ever hooked up in an environment like Deltopia unless is was a matter of rape.'

Well, most tourists to Santa Barbara don't close on a house purchase when here either. But they enjoy the sightseeing here. And our local tourist institutions encourage a many tourists as possible.

Young men who head to Deltopia love the sight seeing there:

http://www.swt.org/uni/2014-0405/

The fact that a deal is rarely closed doesn't stop the sight-seeing.

But a new zoning ordinance that requires burqas from top of head to toe for women in IV would easily end the sight-seeing. Wouldn't cost the government anything either.

pardallchewinggumspot (anonymous profile)
July 17, 2014 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They were replaying the scenes of the riot on KEYT a couple of nights ago.

Ugly, violent, hateful stuff. What stands out is the way that car was getting smashed to pieces.

There is nothing festive of positive about such an event, it's indefensible.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
July 17, 2014 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And what were they rioting for? Just to be douchebags, no social or human rights cause, nobody was oppressing them- only their own stupidity. because of these a-hols- friends of mine who had nothing to do with it got rubber bulleted, were trapped in their homes, got to clean up the mess and get blamed it for it.. nothing heroic about these guys despite what some people may fantasize.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 17, 2014 at 9:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is wrong to claim that the Deltopia event was `about' destroying a car, or rioting. 0.001% of the crowd were criminals who committed crimes. No-one defends their behavior. Smearing the other 99.999% makes no more sense than smearing the entire Fiesta because some gangsters commit a murder. Or smearing the entire community of Hope Ranch because Reed Slatkin defrauded investors of $100's of millions.

But when outsiders ponder Isla Vista, all common sense leaves their minds.

Why? Follow the money. The County and the rest of the community get a huge profit out of IV. Yet in IV there aren't even sidewalks. 7 or 8 times the outside community through LAFCO has kept IV from being a city or part of a city, which would allow IV to retain much of it funds.

The goal of UCSB and IV should be: detach from the County and build a mini -Manhattan, with every UCSB dollar from students, parents, and employee spent there, and not a single $ spent elsewhere in the County. Cancel all Arts & Lectures downtown. The outside community has f*** IV for a long time, and there is no longer any obligation of IV and UCSB to the rest of the County.

pardallchewinggumspot (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pardall: "The goal of UCSB and IV should be: detach from the County and build a mini -Manhattan, with every UCSB dollar from students, parents, and employee spent there, and not a single $ spent elsewhere in the County. Cancel all Arts & Lectures downtown. The outside community has f*** IV for a long time, and there is no longer any obligation of IV and UCSB to the rest of the County."

No truer words spoken. HOWEVER... it'll never happen, especially as long as the SBCC influence remains there. Sorry, just the way it is and will be.
By the way, I spend a lot of my money there: IV Food Co-op, PMH, Blaze, Sushiya, Freebirds, So. Coast Deli, The Habit, Hannah Kitchen, The Cantina, Bagel Cafe, Crushcakes, Korean BBQ, Jimmy John's, Sorrizo, El Sitio, Woodstocks, Firehouse Subs and Buddha Bowls see a lot of my funding. I take the whole family there every chance I get.
Want to know who the big contributors to Isla Vista are? All those kids working behind the counter at these establishments. They DON'T have time to be jackholes working AND going to school.

blahblahmoreblah (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would not trust video compilations on KEYT as some sort of unbiased vantage point of how the riots went down...

I'm not going to defend every single individual's actions, I am against property damage (except for the STOP sign and anything that belongs to the government whether it is a van, a camera, orange fencing, etc..)

Again, the POLICE caused the riot, when you have hoards of drunk students and you setup riot gear and start moving people around and telling them what to do, you're going to start a riot. Period. It is completely inexcusable to start a riot in that situation and there is no way that if police were not there in force a riot would have started.

Ya, drunk people do dumb things some times, but guess what?? All of the bad stuff that happened during the riot was a consequence of police actions that started the riot.

Also I still haven't seen extended video of the kid holding the STOP sign, but why would he assault other students? Were they assaulting him? I personally thought pulling up the STOP sign and waving it at law enforcement was very clever.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Loon, when will you learn I'm not media gullible. I watched it LIVE as it was happening.
I'm not the one who uses homemade youtube videos comprised of stills and homemade charts as sources!
peace bro!

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know you watched it live, but you were watching it from a source who is very critical of the IV party scene. Again, I still haven't seen the video you saw so I can't judge individual actions and as I said I don't support all of them.. however I will always blame those actions on law enforcement who decided to start the riot in the first place, totally unnecessary.

Speaking of home made charts, did you hear about these stories that came out recently??

"120 'peer-reviewed' studies retracted after being exposed as computer-generated fraud

...many were produced using a software program known as SCIgen, which randomly strings together words and phrases to produce phony papers."

http://www.naturalnews.com/046023_sci...

"CDC's Vaccine Safety Research is Exposed as Flawed and Falsified in Peer-Reviewed Scientific Journal"

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cdcs-va...

"Peer reviewed paper says it’s OK to manipulate data, exaggerate climate claims"

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/04...

One of these days you gotta realize that the establishment makes up way more BS than any 'conspiracy theorist'.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whether Palmenteri is critical of the IV party scene or not, he didn't force people to behave the way they did in front of the cameras. And again, my friends in IV who would be pegged as partiers condemn the rioters. They were there and suffered the consequences as well as the event.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's nice that LP supports damaging government property; hopefully he also supports using his tax dollars to replace it.

discoboy (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ken, if you're "media gullible" then the loonster is certainly guilty of internet gullibility. Every link that butthat posts is either a biased opinion or a whacked out conspiracy theory laden sound bite of garbage.
Discoboy, you got it all a bit mixed up, the loonydoof IS all about idiots destroying ANY PROPERTY THAT ISN'T HIS, but as for the repairs, he wants it done with OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.
Every post, every rant, a pseudo-intellectual attempt at seeming ahead of the rest of society, typical profile of a truther. If only Morpheus could take back that little red pill...

blahblahmoreblah (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I didn't say anything about Palmenteri being anti-partying in IV, I have no idea but he is not an editor at KEYT.

Your friends should blame the police first for starting the riot and the rioters who actually committed a real crime second and only the individuals who actually did something wrong while not spreading the blame to the rest who were involved or disparaging them for participating in protesting the police presence there which is a position I think everybody I knew in IV many years ago held. You are disparaging all of the rioters and saying they didn't have a valid reason to be against the police presence which I very much disagree with. If you are ever able to put me in touch with your friends some time I'll bet I could get them to concede those points. Starting a riot with a bunch of really drunk people is easier than getting blah to call me names, I mean, what do you HONESTLY expect is going to happen?? Except in the case of the riots it is actually bound to cause physical harm.. there is no sense to it at all.

I'm not defending the actions of all of the people who were apart of the riots, but I do support the general attitude against the police presence in IV and the quasi-alcohol and music prohibitions that the costumed revenue farmers enforce.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 3:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"It's nice that LP supports damaging government property; hopefully he also supports using his tax dollars to replace it."

Meh, I don't really support damaging government property just for the sake of damaging government property.. But if the government is using it's property to inflict tyranny on the general population then I absolutely, wholeheartedly do not think that it is necessarily morally wrong to destroy government property and in this case thought it was rather clever.

And being an anarchist who is against taxation, I do not support my tax dollars going to replace government property..

And being pro-private property rights (for individuals) and advocating it over and over and over and over, I think anybody can tell that blah either doesn't actually read my posts, has poor comprehension or memory of them.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 3:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Loon, it was live, raw footage- no editing required!

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And there he goes, that loonywoons! Wow, such a rebel! We're ALL so envious! Nah, not really, just wondering how somebody can be such a tool.

blahblahmoreblah (anonymous profile)
July 18, 2014 at 5:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Police used year gas because THEIR WAS A RIOT GOING ON.

Ripping out a stop sign and destroying someone else's van mob action is not your first ammendment right. It's criminal.

This was all BEFORE police started really taking action.
How hard is this for some people to understand?

realitycheck88 (anonymous profile)
July 20, 2014 at 8:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I wonder if the police will use tear gas on Anti-Choice protesters blockading Planned Parenthood Clinics now that the buffer rule is under attack.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
July 20, 2014 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Relentless searches for hypocrisy yield only shallow response.

JarvisJarvis (anonymous profile)
July 20, 2014 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The case against Desmond Williams, whose actions according the the Sheriff incited the `riot', has gotten a lot weaker since the initial announcements back in April. The Sheriff said he had `swung' a `backpack full of bottles' at a UCSB police officer. Turns out nobody saw the incident testified, the backpack was found to have one-half-full bottle, the backpack had the ID of someone else (Donje Hill, a Marine) in it, and the 24 cameras viewing the incident had no useful data on them.

Williams bail was *set to zero* by the judge, from $75,000.

The uprooting of signs was clearly done to tell the police to `stop'.
http://www.keyt.com/news/thousands-ri...

The time sequence of everything is very unclear. Maybe it will be unclear forever. A good move would be if the footage from the 24 cameras were first analyzed by a non-law enforcement controlled computer forensics expert, to insure not tampering, and then released to the public so we could judge for ourselves.

The public paid for all the footage, after all.

It is possible that the idiots in the crowd did all their stupid stuff and the police responded. It is also possible that police got Williams, who was the wrong guy, and the crowd blew up in response. Until there is an investigation that is out of the hands of the interested parties and that is believable, both alternatives are viable.

pardallchewinggumspot (anonymous profile)
July 20, 2014 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is possible that the town of Isla Vista was overrun by a bunch of a-holes who don't give a rat's posterior about the place and just wanted to show how tough they are. Oops, wait, that isn't possible, it's the fact. problem fixed, mystery solved. NEXT!

blahblahmoreblah (anonymous profile)
July 21, 2014 at 5:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For once I agree with blah, IV always gets over-run by those cop a-holes who don't give a rat's posterior about the place and just want to show how tough they are.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 21, 2014 at 6:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't destroy people's vans/property. Why is that so hard to understand?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
July 21, 2014 at 7:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow bill I wasn't aware that the entire town of IV destroyed a van, I thought it was limited to a few individuals and that some how the cops thought it was a good idea to start a riot over it and put everybody else's life in danger. Maybe I'm wrong about that, and maybe every single Mexican in Santa Barbara raped a homeless woman last week, it wasn't just those two a-holes afterall.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
July 21, 2014 at 7:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just like I clearly stated in the post above: "The entire town of I.V. destroyed the van" and "all the Mexicans raped a homeless woman". I also have stated that The Illuminati are behind the mind-control machine known as Ken_Volok. It's all right there, in my above post.

P.S. I am the head of the Bilderberg Group, and Nick Welsh is my vice-president.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
July 21, 2014 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There is not excuse for the trashing of the van and the perpetrators deserve arrest and conviction.

Perhaps the Sheriff should not say `a backpack full of bottles' when there was one bottle in the backpack. Propagating exaggeration like that reduces confidence in local law enforcement and calls into question the clear-headedness of the decision to clear the streets of IV.

pardallchewinggumspot (anonymous profile)
July 22, 2014 at 2:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ken_Volok

Love your "anti-choice" remark about police tear gas.

Do you consider gun control advocates "anti-choice" also?
Are laws against killing living humans (like laws against murder) also "anti-choice" laws?

Let me also guess: at the same time that you are Pro-Abortion rights, you are probably a big animal rights advocate (ie: no-kill shelters for animals) and against the death penalty, correct?

realitycheck88 (anonymous profile)
July 22, 2014 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For once I agree with loony, IV always gets over-run by those generation selfie a-holes who don't give a rat's posterior about the place and just want to show how tough they are.

blahblahmoreblah (anonymous profile)
July 28, 2014 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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