County, Cops Brace for Deltopia

"The university sent letters to junior high and high school principals from Santa Maria to Oxnard asking them to discourage teenagers from making the trip to I.V."

lol.. ya, tell EVERY high school and middle school student in the tri-county about the big party coming up.. friggin genius!!!

Two options:

1. They are really stupid

2. They want deltopia to erupt so they can practice urban warfare

Gotta agree with Loon on this one. UCSB just made Deltopia the destination for every teenager within a hundred mile radius.
Seriously, what are the teachers supposed to tell the students:
Don't go because there'll be alcohol?
Don't go, you might get your cherry popped?
Dumb.

Actually, in 2009, many volunteers cleaned up the beaches, and the Independent baldly published a photo of all the trash that was **cleaned up** and implied that that trash was left on the beaches.

False click-whoring, Independent.

The 2009 Floatopia didn't even register a tick in the fecal coliform measurements at Goleta Beach and Sands Beach.

Meanwhile, the leaky sewers in the City of Santa Barbara constantly emit human waste into the City beaches, causing a huge and measurable bump in fecal coliform.

But the Indy notes that crap from the City at a far smaller rate than it notes the alleged (and untrue) effects on the Channel of Floatopia.

Remember the Maine, Indy, Hearst would love you.

Love to watch the unmovable Brown brace for the unstoppable unsanctioned ungovernable block party.... Maybe you'll be on FOXIENEWS.

What I love is watching UCSB students trash the reputation of their own college degree in the future market place. Indeed UCSB is turning out more than its share of brilliant, but unemployable, rocket scientists. Party on.

Actually, UCSB students cleaned up the beach, and clean up IV every weekend via the adopt-a-block program of IVRPD.

The claims that UCSB students `trash' anything come from dupes who believe hyperventilating media airheads, like JarvisJarvis believes. Too bad people believe the BS... JarvisJarvis worries that he can get pregnant from riding the bus too. Actually, maybe he can.

Just got back from lunch there, the popo is OUT and they ain't takin' crap! Talked to 1 of the officers, their focus isn't locals, it's those out of town douchies and they're making it clear.
In the words of "Animal House" character Flounder when the fit was about to hit the shan, "This is gonna be GOOD!" My money's on the popo.

UCSB students trash their own degree's reputation with their party-hardy attitude. Which cannot be cleaned up the next day. it is their call. No skin off my nose except I hate seeing county dollars get abused for this sort of mayhem.

But I am not happy seeing county dollars go for more county employee perks and pensions either. Sigh, I was hoping county dollars could go for positive county infrastructure projects instead. Silly me.

A lot of my friends who partied hardy are now making six figure incomes as programmers, scientists and analysts all around the country. I'm doing ok (I live in SB...).

When I first started going to UCSB, it was the Electrical Engineers who had the reputation for going overboard and partying too hard.

It's pretty foolish, imo, for an employer to think that somebody who is intelligent and hard working but also likes to have fun would not be a good employee. That is a good description for most UCSB students.

It's almost worth going to see what happens.

Thanks for the memory jag, Loonie, Of course we all remember the Electrical Engineers rampage at UCSB that hit the national headlines when the Princeton Review finally sat up and took notice - UCSB wired to be a #1 party school. UCSB Electrical Engineers shocked the normally staid campus party network. I remember that well.

If any employer bases a hiring decision on a small percentage of UCSB students who party, then the job is not worth it.

It's a tough job market out there, tabatha. First round paper screenings knock out applicants long before they get to make their case to the contrary in person.

Though your attitude that some jobs are "just not worth it" should be compelling notice to future employers. You are what continues to make America great, tabatha.

JarvisJarvis is showing how utter ignorance of the actual events and a complete parroting of what media airheads tell him leads to wild and absurd conclusions. He is a slave to the modern media without an single neural impulse of original thought.

The partying in IV has not a single whit of influence on the job prospects of UCSB students.

UCSB students simply don't trash the IV environment, they clean it up.

You know who trashes IV? The Sheriff's horses, who poop on the streets and it does not get cleaned up for days.

Nah, tabatha is right Jarvis - an employer who makes poor hiring decisions based on illogical bias is less likely to be around in a few years compared to an employer who makes better hiring decisions.

So if an employer sees an applicant went to UCSB and throws it in the trash - compared to what other applicants? An applicant without a degree? One with a degree from another school? SBCC? There are plenty of great students who graduate from UCSB, and plenty of students who party are also great students and will one day become outstanding employees.

Party on, IV. Just don't cost me an extra dime or negative headlines. All will be good.

Who cleaned up all the trash that was floating around out in the ocean Pardallchewinggumspot? The trash that was found washing up on beaches miles away? UCSB students? The fact of the matter is that UCSB students completely trashed that beach. Yes, some more responsible UCSB students who actually care about the environment came the next day and did actually clean up what was left of the trash THE NEXT DAY, but by that time the tide had come in and washed a lot of it out to sea.

"Both the Associated Students Environmental Affairs Board and Coastal Fund organized beach cleanups for the day of the event, but those efforts were thwarted because the party lasted much longer than expected. By the time of the second scheduled cleanup, most of the debris had already been carried out on the high tide. "

So yeah..... Go Gauchos!

"[Who will] pick up the trash that was found washing up on beaches miles away? UCSB students?"

Yes, in fact there was an entire event setup for the next year's floatopia that was designed to clean up afterwards....even though they had spontaneously come together the year before to clean up 99.8%+ of the mess, this event would ensure that there was an organized effort and that it wouldn't just be left up to happen spontaneously and show the community that they were prepared to clean up after themselves. You could have gone on the facebook page and posted, "Hey I found trash on the beaches at the Mesa last year, make sure you send people down the beach for a couple days after and help clean up the trash out there. Have fun, everyone!"

So ya they could send some people down to campus, Goleta Beach, up toward Hope Ranch and the Mesa to walk up the beach and find trash if they had to. There were a lot of things that could have been done to help prevent problems that weren't allowed to happen because floatopia only happened once. Trash cans on the beaches would obviously have prevented a vast majority of the trash from going into the ocean in the first place.

Loonywoony, wishful thinking and alternate reality, a match made to be. Come on out to Isla Vista Loony and partake in the festival you so overtly and ignorantly support! I DARE YOU!

Someday Loooooooooooooooooooooooonpt, and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah will be sitting together in a Chinese restaurant laughing about all this.

Get to work Volok!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABxAX...

SigAlert: 101 coming into town from the south, nearly back-up to a halt, loaded with cars of young people - early afternoon. Must be heading to Good Friday services?

mesamike says ``Who cleaned up all the trash that was floating around out in the ocean Pardallchewinggumspot? The trash that was found washing up on beaches miles away? UCSB students? The fact of the matter is that UCSB students completely trashed that beach. Yes, some more responsible UCSB students who actually care about the environment came the next day and did actually clean up what was left of the trash THE NEXT DAY, but by that time the tide had come in and washed a lot of it out to sea.''

1)I myself helped cleaned up the beach that afternoon. High tide wasn't until well after 8pm, and between 5pm and 7pm we got a heck of a lot of trash up... and guess what, the article you later quote (which has NUMEROUS errors) showed a picture taken on the evening of April 4 that we picked up:
http://www.independent.com/news/2009/...

2)The EAB was not involved in the early cleanups, nor were the excursion club, they were late and aghast at perceived (falsely) slights to the environment. They made a stink but missed out on the early cleanups.

3)Sure, there was maybe 5% of the trash that got away from us the first evening. All that trash probably amounts to 1% of what gets dumped in the Channel at Hendry's every month... I've seen disposable diapers and dog poop in the surf at Hendry's quite regularly in the summer.

4)STILL, the effluent from leaky City of Santa Barbara sewage pipes dwarfs anything from the 2009 Floatopia... that is why you have high fecal coliform levels near the Mesa and all all on the Santa Barbara waterfront. Ingesting all the fecal coliform must have made you a bit weird, Mesamike. Meanwhile, there wasn't the *SLIGHTEST* uptick in fecal coliform after the 2009 Floatopia at Goleta Beach or at Sands... why is that Mesamike, huh, why is that?

The simple reason is that the trashing of the beaches by the 2009 Floatopia has about as much veracity as `Wilding' leading to the assault on the Central Park Jogger in 1989. The junk published by the Indy and by you is just BS fantasy made up for click-whoring (on the part of the Indy) and to satisfy your old-fart, get off my lawn, fecal-coliform induced bile, mesamike. Too bad facts aren't part of your life.

I drove through IV this morning (Friday, 4/3). I encourage everyone to do the same as it was very enlightening. What I saw: the temporary 6' chain link fences on the medium and sides of El Colegio, etc. same as Halloween. Chain link all around Camino Majorca and the entrances/stairs leading to Depressions, IV, and Devereux beaches. There were too many RVs to count. Lots of young people drinking on their lawns at 8:30am. Broken bottles in the streets of Pasado and Sabado. Packs of students walking around the Loop, too many to count. Lots of cops on foot and cars. In short, it looked like a cross between IV Halloween, Spring Break in Cabo, and Escape from New York.

Note that I lived in IV for over 20 years and go into IV about once a month. I didn't drive on Del Playa this morning and wouldn't go back into IV any later than about noon this weekend as the residents will have tied one on by then. I also drove past the ongoing construction near Francisco Torres and around Ocean Meadows golf course. Hello Irvine.

Well thank you pardall for volunteering your time to care for the environment. My whole point was that none of the trash, even .2%, should ever be left on the beach or anywhere else but a F******* trash can.

so yeah.

1) thanks for caring about the environment enough to clean up after people who obviously do not. the alleged inaccuracy of the media reports will not change my personal opinion.

2) not sure what point you are attempting to make here, I personally will still believe that the environment was indeed "slighted", you obviously "perceive" things quite differently.

3) is a strawman argument. we aren't talking about what gets dumped at the pit, the harbor, the mesa or anywhere else, we are talking specifically about what happened in IV. I obviously don't like the beaches and ocean getting trashed in any of those places either, or anywhere else for that matter.

4) same as above, although I might add that I'm thankful that all who "celebrated" the first floatopia weren't crapping in the ocean, although you are correct- leaky sewers and runoff is a major problem not just here locally, but everywhere.

But keep on trying to insult me personally if you see fit. I lived and worked in IV for at least a decade, and I've always applauded the work of the adopt-a-block volunteers, the EAB and the rest of the folks in IV such as yourself that helped to counteract the irresponsibility of those who choose to disrespect nature. The coastline around IV, and all parts north and south are really beautiful places, and that's why I care enough to post my "fecal-coliform induced bile" opinions here. I'm glad that you care too. Come on down to the lane sometime. Just watch out for the dog sh*t.

Simpleton's post got me to just go out and about IV at 10:30am Yes, there are many pointless chain link fences, paid for with money taken out of UCSB's education funds... education quality plummets while UCSB diverts money to useless fences, on-campus parties for UCSB students, and millions per year for more law enforcement. Meanwhile, in China and India students study like crazy and their governments pay for education, not parties and fences.

Simpleton can't count past 3... I saw 3 RVs... 2 on Majorca and 1 on Corto.

Not a single young person drinking on any lawn, not a one. 4 old guys, all over 50, who live a van next to Rotappel Park, drinking some beers on the lawn at Rotappel on Del Playa. 2 young ladies sunbathing on lawns next to Del Playa. Saw 47 other people on Del Playa, including the USPS delivery guy, an Adopt-a-Block volunteer from IVRPD, and about 45 other people on their way to class.

Not one broken bottle on Pasado or on Sabado. Not one pack of student in the Loop, I guess Simpleton can't count to zero. Not a single cop either afoot or enautoed. In short, it looks like a lazy spring morning in Isla Vista.

Note that I have lived in IV for 25 years and am perfectly happy if flatus-emitters like Simpleton never come to IV, and supremely happy if they sniff their own flatus and don't post their fart-bombs full of lies here.

@Pardall, Maybe things have settled down in the past few hours. Otherwise, I'm calling BS on your spin through IV. Everyone should take a drive through IV to see with their own eyes...

PS if you've really lived there for 25 years we probably know each other.

Well, mesamike, thanks for your comments about those of us who clean up.

But no thanks for your prejudiced singling out of IV for special scrutiny, with no ire for the City of Santa Barbara (whose old sewer lines leak effluent into the Channel), for surfers (who pee in the ocean and see a rate of personal injuries in excess of those at Floatopia, where not a single injury ever occurred in the water; nevertheless, surfers don't have to where helmets, flotation devices, and urine-collection-bladders), and for families and dogs that drop their baby diapers and poop into the ocean near the Mesa.

Yup, you just want to focus on IV, with a `zero tolerance' attitude, but then help yourself and your fellow-travelers to avoid any scrutiny for the pollution you cause. If you can't understand that, I'm sorry, your IQ is lower than I thought.

The simple fact is that the City of Santa Barbara, various Septic tanks, and Tajiguas dump a lot more fecal coliform and other junk into the channel than Floatopia ever did. But you don't see the Independent or you or others ever mentioning that fact.

And on a per-capita basis, there is no evidence whatsoever that Floatopia was any worse than visits by surfers or families or other tourists or cruise ships or freighters or military vessels as far as pollution is concerned.

As far as IV is concerned, no lie is Big enough for people like you, messmate, and Simpleton, and the Independent too. Facts are irrelevant to you, you just seek to act out your prejudices by saying whatever your biases lead you to say.

I rode though Isla Vista this morning on my way to my office and what I saw for the most part was people going to Friday classes, more cops than normal, but not an overwhelming force and yes, yes, the idiot fencing was up.
You know who we need on here to give a resident's view on matters? Mr. Sarria. I saw a post ion his facebook page this morning, here's what it said (profanities mitigated):

So this weekend is that f@#$ed up "event" called "deltopia" here in IV, which I call DOUCHETOPIA.
F@#$in' great, a bunch of drunken out of town azzholes runnin' around thinking the following:
1) Chicks are runnin' around topless & they ALL wanna get laid.
2) There's kegs of beer on EVERY street corner for ALL!
3) The drinking age in IV is 14 & over.
4) The illegality of hard drugs automatically goes away.
5) Cops are cool w/ you being a douchebag.
6) You can park anywhere you want, even if means blocking a driveway.
Well, last year this douchefest resulted in a riot & the out of town azzholes wrecked the town.
This year they're in for a surprise, the cops are out in force, parking restrictions are in place & THEY AIN'T GONNA TAKE YOUR S@#T!
As an IV resident of 28 years, I say the following: F@#k douchetopia, f@#k the out of town scumbums & fuck UCSB for indirectly supporting this s@#itfest. May the cops crack down & bring ALL the azzholes DOWN.
Parties are cool, but this ain't a party, it's a generation selfie yolo douchefest & it needs to die.

So here's a long time resident & he's not in favor of it. He goes to parties & enjoys the area better than any of us here on this board, but he's got that to say. Think about it.

Try reading my post again pardall. If you don't think I've expressed any personal ire towards every single situation of disrespect towards the environment clearly than you need better reading comprehension. You think I enjoy stepping in dog sh*t at mesa lane? I call those those people out every damn time, as well as the stus who come down there and think it's ok to leave all their trash behind. Keep on slinging the insults though, hope it makes you feel better. yolo bro. that IV kool aid must be good.

I think if we created a math equation where we added to one side the amount of enjoyment that tens of thousands of students had during floatopia and then on the other side of the equation the amount of disgust that a few people had upon seeing a few items of plastic on the beach down current, most of which could be prevented with proper planning, and then added to that the environmental impact of those items we would find that the equation would still not balance - the amount of enjoyment that the tens of thousands of students had would probably outweigh the other side by a multiplier of somewhere in the thousands or even millions.

The fact that this is a once a year celebratory occurrence could also be taken into account.

I like clean beaches, I don't want this place to turn into Orange County either - but the fact is a well planned, once a year deltopia event - while it may possibly end up that a few items of trash flow down the beach the fact that it happens once a year and is a fun outlet for students and visitors I think warrants some thought for those who are attempting to keep the beaches 100% spotless all year, even while humans completely destroy the environment at large every day.

There he goes, the loonster! "A once a year celebratory occurrence"? Really man, your naive, ill-thought, babe in the woods take on REALITY is too much (or too little, depending ion perspective) to take.
Face it, the party is A WEEKLY OCCURRING thing that goes from Thursday night until the wee hours of Sunday morning.
Loony, stop self-representing the REAL people of Isla Vista, you're doing them a HUGE disservice with your feelgood tweakiness. Get back to the bong, it misses you.

7000 pounds of trash divided by 15,000 students means each little twerper carelessly tosses a half pound each. Stop fouling your own next, kiddies.

Pack it in and pack it out. Mother Nature asks no less. Use your drug scales to weigh out your fair share.

Simpleton - call BS or whalesh*t or yourself a taxi, the fact is I went out and looked for myself. Did it a second time at 12:30pm. Just another lazy spring morning and mid-day in IV... no roving packs of students around the Loop, no drinking parties on DP, no broken bottles, nothing, nada, zip, gooseegg, null, crickets, zed, אפס.

Of course, no-one should ever drive on DP or Sabado after about 6pm on Friday or Saturday... way too many pedestrians.

blahblahetc... Of course, my life would be way better without Deltopia, Halloween, or all the Thursday-Saturday in IV during the school year. What a blissful spring break we just had. But in a community of 20-somethings, it will not always be as placid as the breaks, unfortunately. That wingnuts like Simpleton and the Independent exaggerate IV's situation BAR doesn't help.

mesamike... well, certainly you didn't volunteer any of the other environmental insults to the Channel as comparisons to Floatopia, you just called all the leaky sewer pipes of the City of Santa Barbara a `straw man'. Straw men don't cause fecal coliform, my friend, so your words alone hung you. Thank you for calling out the dogs****ers near the Mesa... out here they also mess with the plovers. And please forgive me for my testiness in battling the jaundiced view of IV... not unlike the rapid media BS about `Wilding' and black kids in Central Park in 1989 after the Central Park Jogger was assaulted. The media goes into a feeding frenzy and can't let an actual fact in, and then all sorts of mindless airhead commenters here (like JarvisJarvis) barf the stuff back up, which is very frustrating.

Mindless, air-head comment = pack it in, pack it out.

(I think I stole this from the USFS)

Boy Scouts Motto: Be Prepared. Leave no Trace - Pack it in, pack it out. Scout's honor. How quaint, how retro. How timely. How controversial. It has it all. Trigger warning: Dangerous book for boys - the Boy Scouts Manual.

http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/B...

If this article was about trash at the pit, dog sh*t at mesa lane, or leaky sewer pipes in hope ranch/montecito/rincon/mesa, I would gladly volunteer some insults to that regard, but alas... this article is about a specific topic, hence the straw man argument (maybe I'm using that terminology incorrect... I dunno). We are specifically talking about floatopia, so to change the subject and point the finger everywhere else (even if it is a well deserved finger wave) seems to me like a cop out. I do however respect your opinion and your concern for where you live. We probably agree about more things than you might think.

I understand your testiness in regards to the community that you obviously care a lot about. IV does certainly get more than it's fair share of bad press, but a lot of it is well justified (the senseless tragedies that have occurred there over the years really do sting), and I'm sure on the flip side, a lot of it is hot air that gets blown out of proportion and is unjustified.

I think a lot of the problems (wether they are real or not) could certainly be solved if either the 800 pound gorilla UCSB would take more responsibility for the town and community where the majority of their students reside, or if there was more local governance along the lines of what IVPR I think has at least attempted to do. Every politician wants the student vote, but when it comes to IV actually obtaining city status, where are they to be found? They only seem to show up when there is a photo op, which to me is just pathetic. Lip service comes to mind.

IV was certainly a different place when I lived there. There was still massive parties going on, and certainly some crazy a** brawls that got out of hand, but that was before the IVFP shut down live music, which I think is at least partially responsible for the environment that exists today. People just seemed to care a bit more about everything in general back then. If a girl was drunk, a safe walk back home was given. If a guy was drunk and passing out on the street, everyone seemed to care enough to make sure that he got home safely as well. No one wanted to see people wind up in the county jail. Maybe it was better off being more self regulating, instead of what it is today, where the massive police presence seems to do more harm than good. Sorry for getting nostalgic, but I love and cherish the time I spent in IV. Good and bad.

Its spring time. Where is Parks and Recreation Deportment on Floatopia/Deltopia??? The students pay taxes. All the merchants for many miles around make a killing during the event. Looks like taxation without representation. No I’m not a university student but I see all the long lines at the local Goleta and Santa Barbara gas stations as well as every store and food outlet being are crammed full of people. Starting early in morning the day before. From the Market Place shopping center in Goleta to on Stork Rd to well past La Cumbra shopping Center. Lasting till well into the evening the day after. Folks in Ventura County are not complaining about all the extra traffic on the U.S. rut 101 with Deltopia party goers dropping cash at some of the state’s most expanse gas stations and food outlets. The City of Goleta is restricting parking around IV. Which is just a way that city extorts revenue from unsuspecting Deltopia mating ritual event goers.
Floatopia/Deltopia is a rite of passage for UCSB students. Municipalities should be working to accommodate the human ceremonial instead of fighting human nature, dominating and controlling its citizens.

My guess is you will find the net benefit to the community from Deltopia, as illusive as the increased fecal coliform count after Flotopia.

A lots has changed during mesa-mike's absents. Back then the county responded to spring time student partying by contracting the partying organizing out to event organizers. Which charged for admission to the traditional Isla Vista beach partying and they, the professional event organizers charged for admittance, provided organized entertainment, toke care of security, porta-pottys and clean up. At that time there was no violence or crime to speak of. In stark contrast to Deltopia 2014. What has changed are the Supervises on Santa Barbara county Board of Sup' The newer board wants a cut, in way of permits, from the event organizers in order to have the event contract awarded. Mike pay attention to this it has to do with a lot of money to be grabbed in I.V. Now the SB Sheriffs Dept uses the spring time festivities in IV to try out all the new riot control gismos on. Cording off IV with cyclone fences and shooting high velocity projectiles indiscriminately at people partying in the streets.

April 3, 2015 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

7000 pounds of trash divided by 15,000 students means each little twerper carelessly tosses a half pound each. Stop fouling your own next, kiddies.

Pack it in and pack it out. Mother Nature asks no less. Use your drug scales to weigh out your fair share.

JarvisJarvis (anonymous profile)
April 3, 2015 at 12:37 p.m

Silly twerps they R.

Seriously Pardall? You are comparing an almost 50 year old problem in IV with the media frenzy of wilding? Battling your definition of hyperbole with obviously absurd hyperbole is hardly effective. Only the lunatic fringe want to argue that I.V. does not get wildly out of control no matter how much you want to defend the rights of CC idiots and out of town interlopers to have "fun" at the expense of the locals.

Hey all, just surveying last night's happenings. Nothing much to report. Law enforcement did an awesome job, pout a stop to potential problems before they became a hassle.
We only heard 1 siren, a EMT vehicle, but I think the police has been runnin' silent to get to their destinations & besides, they're out on foot.
There WAS 1 incident just up the block from us on the corner of Segovia & Embarcadero del Mar, don't know what happened, but gonna talk w/ the cops today & see. Looks like it was quelled rather quickly & w/out incident.
As for the OOT's, (out of towners) parking, I made it extremely clear @ our apartment, we will NOT accommodate them & they will be towed (what happens to their vehicle between the time of their parking & the tow truck, well, can't really talk about that).
Saturday is the real test, but it doesn't seem that busy out here, however, that can change when all the douchetards decide to come out later on.
Paintball guns are loaded & ready.

Good report, thanks. Ounce of prevention and a thin blue line is worth a pound of indolent stupidity later.

Sure, IV got wildly out of control in February, 1970, when students had a battle with deputies and hammered a patrol car to 2' high, then set it on fire.

Now that extremely violent generation from 1970 wants to claim that a stupid young man like Desmond Edwards, who at the 2014 Deltopia probably ran from the Deputies because Edwards was carrying 1 handle of vodka (the Sheriff exaggerated that to a `backpack *full* of bottles, there was just 1 bottle, no apology ever from the Sheriff), started a `riot'. It doesn't seem to hold water to me. Seems to me he is a scared stupid bumbling fool, but he is no Lefty Bryant, Will Allen, or Mario Savio.

Throwing chucks of cement and large rocks, hammering a patrol car to a pancake, setting it on fire... the things the now 60-year-olds did in 1970... that is out of control.

What the mindless 20-somethings do now... at best a minor annoyance to any mature person. I don't like it but I know the difference between today's misbehavior and the truly violent incidents from the 1970.

But nomoresanity, you and the Independent and the media cannot distinguish between a violent charge of students in 1970 hurling chunks of concrete and destroying a patrol car and today's punks who are pathetic. You falsely pump up IV's current stupid youngsters into Al Qaeda.

Oh, you're probably going to mention Elliot Rodger. Yes, he is as insane as they come, Thor Nis Christiansen or Malcolm Robbins level. We seem to get one every 10 or so year, and so does Goleta... Jennifer San Marco, Nicholas Holzer.

The 60's were out of control. No, they should not be anyone's role model for anything. But they did think they were defending their own lives, against the immediate ravages of the draft and the Vietnam war. What are kids today fighting for, or against today?

Pardall, you are the one unable able to make the distinction between what was at stake then then, and now. (BTW: I am not justifying the 1960's. In fact I wish they had never happened. Not my generation.)

Today they are not fighting, they are back to your glorious 1950's. JarvisJarvis, you totally overlook The Barbary Coast, the 1950's drunken brawl on the then-new UCSB campus, that got out of hand and was shut down. Just like Deltopia.

The 1970 incidents in IV were not at all related to the Vietnam War, or Civil Rights, or anything. At most those issues were lipstick on a pig. They all had draft deferments, remember? Well, except the slightly older students, several of whom were Vietnam Vets, who were helping Kevin Moran put out the fire at the second B of A (the temporary building) before the police shot Kevin Moran to death.

The troubles in 1967-1970 were mainly about students discovering freedom and abusing it.

Just walked around IV. Jeez, it is a big Deltopia event. No more inflatables in the front yard of DP. It is back to basics... attractive young women in the skimpiest of clothing walking the streets, like West MacArthur Boulevard in Oakland, in my youth. And lots of attractive young men trying to meet the streetwalkers, and usually failing. That is not like the old meat rack.

UCSB has a `festival' going on by the Events Center. About 30 young people there.

About 5,000 on Del Playa. It is not inadvertent dry-hump crowded yet. I could always keep 3 feet between me and the streetwalkers. But there is again a potential for evening mayhem. Darn.

Kids. What's ya gonna do, eh? Yes, there were panty-raids at Berkeley back then in the 50's. Whatever that was about.

Telephone booth and VW stuffing too. Before that, gold fish swallowing. Your main theme of young people discovering freedom and abusing is close to the golden thread tying them all together.

I wonder what the equivalent costs to taxpayers were for each generation's excesses. Or as you posit, is time and half for over-time union-guaranteed more than enough motivation to LE to go rumble a bit today.

The Barbara Coast festival on the UCSB campus in the 1950's degenerated into a drunken brawl, according to contemporaneous accounts. Not a panty raid, fights breaking out just like the IV of the present.

And lots of theft of construction items (lumber, nails, cement, etc) from local jobs sites to build stuff in the little 1-street town that the festival centered around. A recreation of a western town. Grand-theft level theft.

Of course, in the 1950s you could go beat up some minority students with impunity, and sexual assault was even more suppressed w/r to public reporting than today. A mail WASP heaven for JarvisJarvis.

Went to Goleta Beach today around 1:00 & the crowd was starting to build, but it all seemed alright. Coming back around 3:34 is when we saw the stupidity start to begin.
Strarting to hear sirens on a regular basis, my wife went to the food coop for some stuff, the idiots are starting to flow onto Embarcadero del Mar causing traffic issues.
The detention center is starting to fill up, the majority being OOT's, they don't look too stoked. HAPPY DOUCHETOPIA!
There seems to be a bad vibe going on, nothing to do w/ the cops, just roving groups of WAY drunk idiots confronting each other.
We're headed out now for the Full Moon Cruiser Ride, but we're sure the proverbial shyte's gonna hit the fan if the mood stays as is.

Gangsta culture breeds gangsta outcomes. Demon rum. That is what it is. Happy Easter everyone. He has Risen. Rejoice and Renew. And have some Peeps and a chocolate bunny too.

Just got back from the Full Moon Cruiser Ride around 11:30 & it is deathly quiet out here. No sirens, no craziness, just mellow.

Thanks for the reports IV.
As for Pardall solely bringing up hookers in Oakland, beating up minority kids, mass murderers, and comparing student to Al Qaeda, you my friend need to take a breath and calm down on this day of rejuvenation...

Forgot to add some things last night. As we were cruising by the Events Center, there seemed to be some kind of event going on, we believe it was that "concert" they were talking about. It appeared that there were many people present & it looked like there were no problems.
We didn't hear any emergency vehicles last night, that's always a good sign & to be honest, we were shocked, given the vibe going on earlier.
I think a lot of the OOT's got discouraged & left the area prematurely, they saw the cops weren't going to take their crap & said "Oops! Wrong place to be a douchetard!" & left.
Before our cruiser ride we stopped @ the bottom of the loop, the detainees previously arrested were already processed & removed. Happy douchetopia & hasta la vista suckas!
But the vibe was kind of odd. You could DEFINITELY spot the OOT's, their mission was just to get as hammered as possible, as overheard by Kim & me on numerous occasions.
In all, law enforcement prevailed, the residents of IV kept calm & the OOT's got a nasty message from the community: STAY AWAY!

Do you think they punted this weekend knowing LE was out in force, and intend to flash mob it some other day? Actually, my sense is younger students are much more sober about their own futures and know they can't afford to throw it away being stupid today. There is hope this Easter morning.

Doesn't matter whatever weekend they decide to flash mob, it'll be on fb, instagram or snapchat & somewhere on that friends list is an SB County Sheriff's deputy in the IT department monitoring the happenings.
The cool thing is their stupidity. They seem to feel that if they "force" the county to spend all that $$$ to enforce the law, they'll run out of $$$ to do so. Silly fools, the $$$ comes from taxes we all pay & that line of credit never runs out, especially when you add the following 2 words to the cash request: PUBLIC SAFETY.
They can try to flash mob IV if they want, the LE & county response will be the same, no party for you.
Kim is on a run right now, she's gonna clue me in on the aftermath when she gets back.
I do have to say, the OOT presence was lower this time around, so the message did get out.
But some gangsta wannabe idiots are getting a valuable & costly lesson in law & order & civics on this Easter morning.

Exhale.

Yes, the message of Easter is delightful, although by and large religious friction is causing enormous wastes of all sorts of peoples' lives, blood, and treasure these days. Imagine no religion, it is quite easy if you try: after all, modern science (particularly medical science) has saved billions of more lives than religion ever did.

My midnight round last night found lots of young people in the Pardall corridor, spending money and paying loads of sales tax. As Measure A sales tax for roads never gets spent in Isla Vista, that is a nice gift to the rest of the County, that as usual, will be met with an arrogant sneer by those who receive the funds.

A fair number at the Thunderdome last night, but a tiny fraction of those that were on Del Playa in the afternoon.

Hey, nomoreinsanity, sorry, young women now dress like the streetwalkers of the Oakland of my youth, except young women on DP yesterday were considerably more revealing. And the meat rack analogy is quite apt for the nature of DP yesterday. Without that dynamic it is impossible to understand why anyone was perambulating up and down DP yesterday afternoon... no beach, no booze, no tunes, just flesh and a bit too much of it.

If you want to really shut down Deltopia, pass a dress code in IV of burqas for everybody, male and female. Now that would make the public entirely safe. Or just require a $100 entry fee if you are out of burqa.

Religion is a matter of the spirit; science a matter of the head. Both co-exist and both need nurture and succor. They are not mutually exclusive. Addictions alas are a sickness of the spirit, far more than a weakness of science.

Swiss psychiatrist Carl Gustav Jung said it best when asked if he believed in God. No, he answered I don't believe in God. I know there is a God.

Well, Randy Newman said it better in God's Song than Jung...

Man means nothing, he means less to me
Than the lowliest cactus flower
Or the humblest Yucca tree

I burn down your cities-how blind you must be
I take from you your children and you say how blessed are we
You all must be crazy to put your faith in me
That's why I love mankind
You really need me
That's why I love mankind

Pardall: "perambulating"

HAHAHA! Haven't heard that word in a while! Yeah, lots of divas struttin' their stuff & blueballin' the hunters.
Kim Just got back from her run & says DP was clean, Embarcadero del Mar, kind of messy.
What needs to come back is Floatopia & it's gotta be kept local. How do you do that? I don't know. But the problem is always the underage drinking & that's the sticky point.
I'm not gonna lie, I did my share of underage drinking when I was underage & drinking age was 18, so that would make me 17 or less.
But the difference from then & now is we KNEW we were in violation of the law & if we wanted to do it we didn't wanna draw fire to ourselves.
Now you have this baboon mentality where you have a need to show your ass & this leads to the "topper" mentality where you have to top the next baboon w/ something more ridiculous.
But the fact remains, drinking under age is still against the law so why draw fire in your direction?
By the way, when we did become of drinking age, we did drink, but we didn't act like douchies because again, why draw fire to yourself.
Now it's almost as if to say "well, the laws don't apply to me, so I'll act like a bigger douche than the douche before me."
That's what you got now, saw a lot of that yesterday & I guara-f*&%in'-tee you, those were the idiots on the curb w/ their wrists zippy tied ready for the courtesy shuttle to the Graybar Inn & Suites.

God doesn't play dice with the universe, s/he plays hide and seek.

"we didn't act like douchies because again, why draw fire to yourself." -IVlocal

One of these days, I'm going to get a time machine and go back and record you and your friends' college antics on my iphone and come back to the present and post them on youtube and you will be like, "Ahh!! Holy crap!! I forgot about that.. Hmm.. I guess those douchetards are being pretty reasonable afterall!!"

Anyway.. Ya. Deltopia 2015 had a lot of people come, mostly on Saturday - during the day was raging pretty hard, but cops were raging hard as well. They went around breaking up dozens of parties where they could hear music from the street and fined the residents. They also took lots and lots of people to jail for nothing more than being drunk in public. I saw more girls get arrested than guys.

Instead of arresting a girl who is really drunk, or a guy for that matter, why not setup supervised sobriety tents? They can be in the grass in the park, with shade, cots, medical personnel and they can provide a comfortable environment for people who are too inebriated to take care of themselves, aren't able to get home on their own or have lost their group of friends. Seems like a much cheaper option than arresting them and putting them through the court system.

The crowd was pretty good - lots of attractive women came out for the party as usual. Didn't hear a lot of cat call or rude aggressive behavior.

People were pretty disappointed at all the parties getting shut down - but still lots of fun was had and fortunately the cops didn't start a riot.

Would have been better if they allowed music, at least until midnight, and then only shut down parties if there are neighbor complaints after that.

Loonpt, you can do that if you'd like. You'd see a lot of skateboarding, surfing, & just goofing off in a specific area called the backyard of 1 of our homes.
Face it, you WON'T find anything that'd paint us as the jackasses you see now.
In fact, jackass behavior was when we WEREN'T drinking, lots off pranks so you needed to be in top condition to make a getaway.
If you need pictures, hit me up, I'll happily share them, you won't see douchetard behavior.

You had a wave machine in your backyard? Damn. :P

maybe just one of the "bowling alley" decks that fell into the surf off of del playa-happy easter kv

Awesome job by the authorities in letting the out of town douchies know that their bullcrap WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
Sure, the cops put the kabosh on the parties, but look at it as collateral damage, a little inconvenience for the locals (1 weekend of NOT partying) so the locals can TAKE THEIR TOWN BACK.
The message to the out of town douchies: Don't start a riot, we won't kick your azzes.
This idealistic pipe dream some have of making douchetopia something like the Coachella noisefest, unrealistic.
There's a reason why it works in Coachella: THERE'S NOTHING THERE! Isla Vista is a suburb of sorts, NO, not a ghetto.
If you want ghetto go to S. Central L.A. or Oakland or Hunters Point or Compton, but Isla Vista, as much of the ghetto romantics love to portray it, is NOT a ghetto.
Then again, Coachella ain't a ghetto either, but... IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE and THIS is WHY it works there.
Again, great job by law enforcement, you drew a line on the asphalt and held the morons from out of town in check.
Make it a LOCAL event, not an invite for out of town idiots to trash YOUR community. Then maybe you CAN party every weekend of the year with no intervention.

Now let's apply the same full court press tactics on the downtown gang-bangers. Let them get the message their bullcrap WILL NOT BE TOLERATED either.

Jarvis, you know full well that would be seen as a racist, police-state tactic.

Keep college kids from partying = Horray! Victory!
Stop gang bangers from committing violent crimes = Boooo! Racist.