Can California be saved?

Yes, vote The Indy slate. 28% 100 votes
Yes, vote the opposite. 16% 56 votes
No, we're toast. 42% 150 votes
Liberate the state! 12% 43 votes
349 total votes


Independent Discussion Guidelines

Voting MOST of the Indy slate at least.

David_Pritchett (David Pritchett)
October 7, 2010 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree, voting MOST and I would replace save with "will help some."

Num1UofAn (anonymous profile)
October 7, 2010 at 2:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm lost. I thought it was the overwhelming success of previous Indy slates that got California into trouble in the first place.

Disturber (anonymous profile)
October 7, 2010 at 4:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Vote for higher taxes, more public debt, and more regulations.

That is sure to bring jobs to kalifornia.

It has worked so well in the past...brought us to this point...while Texas is 6% unemployment and deficit neutral.


jukin (anonymous profile)
October 7, 2010 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"jukin," you are one careless Troll:

"...while Texas is 6% unemployment and deficit neutral."

- Unemployment figures for:

8.3%(p) in Aug 2010

- Texas Debt has doubled under Perry (since 2000):
- - -
(facts) + (jukin) = a + bi

binky (anonymous profile)
October 7, 2010 at 6:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think most have come to the conclusion that

jukin = no facts

jukin cannot even get the numbers correct for his/her side; and is a disaster for everything else.

A disciplined, serious fact-seeker would provide links to support any claims.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
October 7, 2010 at 10:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

California should be run like a business. Visit any business and everyone is there is working. At my job, we have 100% employment.

How is THAT for doublespeak?

sixdolphins (anonymous profile)
October 8, 2010 at 3:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

" (facts) + (jukin) = a + bi "
-- binky

A clever mathematical pun!

jukin's "facts" often do seem imaginary. Best to ignore the trolls.

EastBeach (anonymous profile)
October 8, 2010 at 5:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)


When over the target you get flak. For Obama and donk voters that means that I have hit a nerve. However, my figures were from memory and I was incorrect. Texas has a horrendous 8.3% unemployment rate or number 23 on the worst jobless state. Of course, the forward thinking kalifornia while under $20 billion budget deficit has wait..... this is what socialist brings...... 12.4% ( that is 50% higher for kalifornia) and KA ranks number 49th out of 51 including DoC (YEAH!!!! GO SOCIALISTS!!!!111111eleventy).


jukin (anonymous profile)
October 10, 2010 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's Time for California to secede from the United States...

micaelm (anonymous profile)
October 16, 2010 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, secede, but first maybe jukin would like to move to Texas.

I think we're toast for the near future in any case, sigh... And what sane and sensible person would want to be governor of this state right now?

mtndriver (anonymous profile)
October 17, 2010 at 6:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The only "slate" I am voting for is the SBCC challenger slate. Other than that, this Democrat is voting for at least one Republican rather than the Indy's lock step Democrats, mirror image of the News-Press's Republicans.

citti (anonymous profile)
October 20, 2010 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This state is about to crash hard like Greece did. Don't worry about seceding, ya'all will be whinning to the other 49 states not to kick your pathetic a@#es out.

birddog (anonymous profile)
October 23, 2010 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jukin, how come you don't live in Texas, then?

isgood (anonymous profile)
November 4, 2010 at 10:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If prop 19 would have passed, maybe we would have had a chance but now we are screwed!

Blueeyes (anonymous profile)
November 14, 2010 at 2:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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