It’s Halloween. What’s scarier?

The Tea Party 62% 208 votes
ObamaCare 22% 73 votes
Sharks 3% 11 votes
Plan SB 2% 9 votes
Climate change 9% 30 votes
331 total votes


Independent Discussion Guidelines

The 'Tea Party' is only scary in that it began with well-principled beliefs based on the morality of what actions government can or should take and has since been somewhat hijacked by what many of us refer to as "Tea-o-Cons" (Tea Partiers + Neocons).

It was originally a peace movement, a movement to bring political issues back to local and state governments and taken away from the centrally, lobbyist controlled congress.

Let's face it, D.C. is too easily controlled by the corporations. Freedom is becoming popular, and those behind the progressive left are beginning to show their true stripes while many on the left are beginning to see the truth.

If we want to take care of the old, the sick, the unemployed, let's do it here!! Whether that means individuals or Santa Barbara or California is up to us, but when the Federal Govt. has so much control over our lives and our economy, the corrupt corporations are ultimately going to create more corporate subsidies and bailouts which leads to the worst tax of all.. the tax that hurts poor people and those on fixed incomes the most, and that is inflation.

Housing, energy, health care, higher education.. these are all areas where government has massive amounts of control and these areas have seen massive price increases and/or decreased quality of service.

Cell phone carriers are fairly atrocious with their lack of increases in availability and pricing and this is due to Fed. Govt. regulations on the cell phone industry.. but when you look at cell phones themselves and other electronics and technology prices drop constantly and quality continues to increase. This is in thanks to the free market, and every sector of our economy could do just as well if we only HAD a free market (we haven't had one since well before 1913). I encourage everyone to look into Austrian Economics, which is in direct opposition to the Keynesian ideology that rules our monetary system today. The corporate media LOVES to tell people about how horrible the 'free market' is. Do you ever wonder why that is? Why would corporations be telling us how bad the free market is? Because big corporations hate the free market, they love to be able to send their lobbyists to DC and be able to control everything they want from one location. Not to mention, a truly free market will break up a monopoly faster than you can pass go and collect $200. The amount of propaganda put out saying the opposite is put out by the corporations, don't be fooled.

Ron Paul, 2012. The corporations HATE this guy more than anybody, trust me.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
October 29, 2010 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I always find it amusing how the totalitarian hard left is always claiming that the Tea Party, which is for limited government and personal liberty, is somehow scary.

Wake up brave thinkers of the Independent, QUESTION AUTHORITY. Do not let the the 20% of our population that is the radical progressive wing of the democrat party and the media sway critical thinking.

It ain't hip to let the totalitarians win.

jukin (anonymous profile)
October 30, 2010 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the joke about "sharks" is in pretty poor taste given the recent event at Surf Beach. I can almost guarantee that if the death would have been one of the staffers at the Independent, you would be more sensitive to the family and friends.

goletaguy (anonymous profile)
October 31, 2010 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Any of you idealists out there physicians? Have you talked to physicians? OBAMACARE is a NIGHTMARE. That's what he's done! Without TORT REFORM I might add, can’t piss off those trial lawyer buddies now can we? Here’s one physician telling it like it really is (and he’s got far more credentials than Obama!):

maximum (anonymous profile)
November 2, 2010 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear Max:
What do you know about "tort reform"? I invite you to go to Public Citizen ( and read up on this subject. A few points, in relation to healthcare: the sum total of physician premiums paid for malpractice insurance (from which all claims are paid) is about six tenths of one percent of all healthcare costs, the actual amount of that paid out in awards is about one third (once again showing how private insurers are good at making money), the vast majority of malpractice cases that could be filed are not . So, before you agitate for adding further restrictions to the ability for people to receive at least some justice in this world, you might rethink the "tort reform" issue and the role played by lawyers (whom I'm not defending, BTW, just pointing out that they have little if anything to do with health care costs).

tegrat (anonymous profile)
November 2, 2010 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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