Should I.V. beaches be closed to prevent Floatopia?

Yes; problems outweigh benefits 49% 142 votes
No; an over-reaction and not in the public interest 50% 145 votes
287 total votes


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I still think all public beaches should be closed to the public and only the RICH are allowed to use them but still have the public pay for their care and upkeep.


dou4now (anonymous profile)
April 10, 2011 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is not the Shrine Auditorium in LA where in the 1960's 5000 people showed up for a concert. Nowadays the numbers are simply, out of hand, and there are a lot of sociopaths in the crowd (statistically 1 in 10). So what are you going to do? Live in La La Land and "deny" this reality? Yep, the good old days, you should have been there.

contactjohn (anonymous profile)
April 15, 2011 at 1:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

More (far more) people are hurt and killed surfing, both in absolute numbers, and per beach visit, than at Floatopia. If public safety is the goal, requiring lifeguards and/or helmets and flotation devices for surf spots would save more lives and prevent more injuries per $ than closing beaches during Floatopia.

Already the residents of IV work pretty hard at cleaning the beaches. While the Indy was sensationalizing and publishing inflammatory and false photos of trash *that had been cleaned up by volunteers and was not even on the beach* in 2009, the real committed folks were out cleaning up.

Better than spending $10,000's of thousands on deputies to control beach access, give that money to clean up groups and pay them minimum wage for beach cleaning in IV.

pardallchewinggumspot (anonymous profile)
April 15, 2011 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Minimum wage eh?

EZK (anonymous profile)
April 15, 2011 at 11:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Several new ordinances are strangling the fun potential Isla Vista party scene, and ironically the place is less safe than when I used to live there. There used to be easily accessible kegs at almost every party, and now thanks to the new ordinances limiting the accessibility of alcohol at parties the students get way more loaded before going out and there is also noticeably more drug use. Law enforcement needs to learn to leave Isla Vista alone, put a couple cops out to keep people from being completely retarded in the streets and only respond when asked.

pardallchewinggumspot makes an excellent point regarding safety and the hypocrisy of government actions in many of these situations. It reminds me of how the government makes cannabis illegal even though alcohol and tobacco are more dangerous and deadly. I'm not advocating that surfing be illegal, obviously, but it's ironic that a less dangerous activity is not permitted. Even if it were more dangerous, however, people should be free to participate as they can assess the risks for themselves.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
April 16, 2011 at 10:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When I attended UCSB, myself and other successful students considered out various projects and non-intoxicating activities to be fun. Don't see those being strangled except by budget cuts and rising tuition. Seems some commentators here would rather reenforce their codependancy despite the ruination it creates in the lives of their friends and others. And other times contrary just for the sake of being contrary despite the facts. Yes, I cannot help but hold you partly responsible you know who.
You're also a little old to be crashing the IV party scene to begin with.

EZK (anonymous profile)
April 18, 2011 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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