The 7-day unpaid furlough teachers agreed to

is the best possible way to take a 3.5% pay cut. How do I get this instituted at my workplace? 28% 51 votes
will drive teachers out of S.B. in search of someplace they can afford. 20% 36 votes
means kids' education will suffer. 39% 71 votes
will make kids happy. 11% 20 votes
178 total votes


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Yet a new jail gets $65 million.

AZ2SB (anonymous profile)
April 19, 2012 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ditch the new jail, educate the kids Itsa no brainer. Out with any and all who thought the jail was a priority over our schools. The only reason we'll need more and more jails is because of the shortchanging of the schools.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
April 19, 2012 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess cutting 5 days of school will make kids' education suffer, but it seems better to have 175 days of school with a larger staff and smaller classroom sizes than 180 days of school with fewer staff members and larger classrooms. That's why I voted for the first option.

sblinda (anonymous profile)
April 19, 2012 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

People learn a lot in jail.

Kingprawn (anonymous profile)
April 19, 2012 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, people do learn a lot in jail.

In jail people learn how to be better criminals.

They learn that the establishment is unfair, aggressive, violent and corrupt.

They experience psychological degradation which can lead to future violence.

Maybe prison should be for violent criminals only and we should let the other half of the prison population who never hurt anybody out of jail.

Then maybe we can focus on better ways to treat criminals so that when they have served their time they have a better chance of wanting to be a constructive member of society rather than a destructive member.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
April 20, 2012 at 5:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

^That said...

18 Signs That Life In U.S. Public Schools Is Now Essentially Equivalent to Life In U.S. Prisons

Obviously I voted for the furlough.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
April 20, 2012 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

19th sign: Drug sniffing dogs are now used in Santa Barbara public schools.

The old joke "I survived Catholic school" should be changed to "I survived PUBLIC school".

billclausen (anonymous profile)
April 20, 2012 at 6:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Better yet drop the one week they study for and the one week they take those stupid bummbling bureaucratic TESTS.

Those idiot TESTS that the Central Planners foist upon the States are part of the problem.

Basic education has been circumvented by a narrow curriculum that revolves around satisfying the Central Planners Test which qualifies the schools for Federal Dollars and teaches the kids NOTHING.

Time to give D.C. the finger and for California to take back its Education Curriculum.

@billclausen, I am reminded of Paul Simon's song, "Kodachrome".

“When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school It’s a wonder I can think at all.“

howgreenwasmyvalley (anonymous profile)
April 22, 2012 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

California has one of the worst education systems with the teachers getting paid the highest. Guess what? If you want your kids to do better, they have to do more than just what the teacher teaches in class! Make them study if they're not getting it, find tutors, make them read more, do something! Stop blaming teachers and giving them more raises and longer hours. Put the responsibility back on the children!

Muggy (anonymous profile)
April 23, 2012 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are right Muggy, it isn't all the teachers fault, parents need to take their fair share also.

AZ2SB (anonymous profile)
April 24, 2012 at 6:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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