If you had to choose one, which Republican primary candidate would you prefer to see as president?

Rick Santorum 13% 39 votes
Newt Gingrich 7% 23 votes
Mitt Romney 33% 100 votes
Ron Paul 45% 137 votes
299 total votes


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This was the first INDY poll in which I couldn't honestly vote! Can I vote for Ike!

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
February 7, 2012 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ron Paul is the only one that doesn't make me want to kick a puppy every time he opens his mouth. The other three are just awful. I have no worries about the President getting re-elected this year.

TheEeebs (anonymous profile)
February 7, 2012 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

While I agree with TheEeebs, a Santorum/Romney ticket scares me. If the Mormans and the Evangelicals join teams in a super-uber-social conservative front Republicans might be crazy enough to elect them. I can just see it now - an army commanded by "pro-lifers" running rampant around the world causing wars and killing Muslims all while degrading the homeland into a Chrstian-ish totalitarian cesspool of oil sludge run by hedge fund managers ruling over a poverty stricken uneducated populous of unwanted and abandoned children.

Num1UofAn (anonymous profile)
February 7, 2012 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For those who are don't like torture, the detainment of people without trial, the Patriot Act, the War on Drugs, U.S. imperialism, and corporate welfare, check out this article about Ron Paul.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
February 8, 2012 at 3:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

P.S. Where does "progressive" Barack Obama stand on these issues?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
February 8, 2012 at 3:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Seriously this is the lamest poll the Indy has ever put out. Maybe if there was another choice: None of the above they are all JackA$$es, I would have voted.

bimboteskie (anonymous profile)
February 8, 2012 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bimboteskie: We have decided to throw our fins in the ring. You should vote for US. Read our previous posts and you will find we make as much sense and any of the candidates you mention.

fivedolphins (anonymous profile)
February 8, 2012 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Newtster would make the most entertaining debate fodder.What a stanky field of candidates.Makes an X in the Obama box an easy choice.

geeber (anonymous profile)
February 8, 2012 at 6:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Unfortunately, all but Newt Gingrich, was on the ticket for President 2008 and FAILED. The prospects for a Republican President is still a sorry sort of Professional Liar's and Snake-oil salesmen to a inept country of voters who are more guilt ridden and gullible than intelligent and knowledgeable in anything political. This Presidential race will be a BOUGHT race, based on who can pay (1% from Super Pacts) the most to BUY their puppet to rule the Country, no one from the 99% can pay the humongous tab to purchase a Politician to run the Country but a Bank or Wall Street can....

dou4now (anonymous profile)
February 10, 2012 at 6:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is sort of the Ralph Nader effect in 2000, by voting for the biggest freak to shock the voters and system into caring.

John_Adams (anonymous profile)
February 10, 2012 at 7:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ABO Anybody But 0bama.

6 trillion dollars in new debt.
A worse housing sector than in the Great Depression.
Highest number of foreclosure rate since records have been kept.
Gasoline has doubled, soon to triple.
The lowest labor participation rate in 40 years.
Longest stretch of 9%+ unemployment rate since records have been kept.
60% of 'green' companies supplied with government funds failed.
The only credit downgrade of the USA in it's history.
Record setting loss in the standard of living in the last three years.
Record setting number and percentage of people on food stamps.
Record increase of people dependent on government (23% increase in three years).
Record increases in health care insurance premiums.

But it's not his fault. It's the fault of his policies.

jukin (anonymous profile)
February 10, 2012 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, Obama inherited a booming, problem-free economy, which, for no reason that had anything to do with what went before, promptly collapsed the day he took office, leading to all of the problems for which he bears sole responsibility. And yes, the ongoing difficulty in fixing the economy has nothing to do with the fact that Republicans have obstructed any attempt that doesn't rely on the same policies that caused the collapse in the first place. Just keep Romney's taxes low, let Wall Street and the big banks manipulate the housing and financial markets, and all will be well.

pk (anonymous profile)
February 10, 2012 at 2:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This primary cycle has been painful to watch ... conservatives are having such a tough time selecting the lesser of evils as each candidate's shortcomings are revealed.

I still can't believe Herman Cain used to be considered a viable Presidential candidate.

EastBeach (anonymous profile)
February 10, 2012 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Interesting poll--Twilight Zone-ish, actually. The Indy looks like today.

ahem (anonymous profile)
February 10, 2012 at 7:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Romney supports waterboarding and Obama supports the National Defense Authorization Act.

Any wonder I don't plan to vote for either of them?

My appeal to all you registered Republicans and Democrats: (I'm assuming that some of you are, which is presumptuous on my part) use the power of your vote to vote in the primaries for someone other than Obama or Romney. Neither one of them care about our basic civil rights. Torture and arresting/detaining people without trial are unacceptable, and those who support politicians who favor this will almost certainly have innocent blood on their hands. Do people *really* not see the direction this country is headed?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
February 11, 2012 at 5:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Are there any Democrats opposing Obama for the nomination?

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
February 11, 2012 at 9:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not that I know of, but there should be.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
February 12, 2012 at 1:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jukin - some facts about "The Foodstamp President"

Foostamp President #1 was G.W. Bush and Foostamp President #2 was G.H.Bush - facts derived from the USDA. Please see them as so well enunciated in the video.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
February 14, 2012 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NDAA - comments by Obama

In his signing statement attached to the NDAA, President Obama made it clear that the language about detentions does not apply to US citizens.

In the second paragraph of his NDAA signing statement, Obama stated, “The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it. In particular, I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation, and prosecution of suspected terrorists.

Ultimately, I decided to sign this bill not only because of the critically important services it provides for our forces and their families and the national security programs it authorizes, but also because the Congress revised provisions that otherwise would have jeopardized the safety, security, and liberty of the American people. Moving forward, my Administration will interpret and implement the provisions described below in a manner that best preserves the flexibility on which our safety depends and upholds the values on which this country was founded.”

tabatha (anonymous profile)
February 14, 2012 at 10:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Bush tax cuts are the biggest contribution to the deficit - the next biggest contributions are the Bush wars and the Bush Medicare Part D. None of these were paid for and they continue to affect the budget deficit negatively.

The CBO - Congressional Budget Office - non-partisian states the following:

However, the CBO also says the deficit could be fixed almost completely simply by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire as scheduled in 2012 and broadening the alternative minimum tax."

"CBO also says the deficit could be fixed almost completely simply by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire as scheduled in 2012"

When Obama took office, the Bush tax cuts were still in effect and they are still in effect THANKS to Republicans, NOT Obama.

When Obama took office, the country was bleeding 750,000 job losses a month. It is now adding 250,000 jobs a month.

In THREE years under Obama, the country has added close to FOUR million jobs.

In EIGHT years under Bush, the country added only ONE million jobs - and Bush was "The Foodstamp President".

tabatha (anonymous profile)
February 14, 2012 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MIAMI -- Federal authorities say they recovered $4.1 billion in health care fraud judgments last year, a record high which officials on Monday credited to new tools for cracking down on deceitful Medicare claims.

The recovered funds are up roughly 50 percent from 2009. Attorney General Eric Holder and Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius were expected to make the announcement at a news conference Tuesday.

The Department of Justice and the Department of Health and Human Services told The Associated Press that agencies are doing a better job of screening providers before they get in the system and have beefed up enrollment requirements. Now investigators are conducting site visits to make sure moderate risk providers have a legitimate office. Higher risk providers are also subject to fingerprint and criminal background checks.


Thanks Holder and Sebelius! Please keep going.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
February 14, 2012 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tabatha, I think he should have addressed the nation directly about his stance on that NDAA bill instead of some signing statement most of us will never even have the opportunity to see in whole and the next President, be it next year or four isn't beholden to at all!

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
February 14, 2012 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You can also substitute the f-word for heck. Indy would not let me post it though. He has done a lot with what he was given.

laxer (anonymous profile)
February 14, 2012 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ron Paul - only Republican/Politician interested in Liberty and Personal Freedom to live ones life as they may wish.

tabatha, Signing Statements do not have the Force of Law. They are a Political Gimmick use by both sides because Presidents do not have the Line Item Veto at their disposal. I for one would like to see a Presidential Line Item Veto, not sure what it would take to legally have one enacted.

Ken, I agree, the President should have addressed the Nation, for this is a blatant unconstitutional Provision of the Law and all that voted for should be held accountable, same with the Patriot Act. No Patriotism involved in unconstitutional laws.

The Fourth Amendment is almost dead.

howgreenwasmyvalley (anonymous profile)
February 15, 2012 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm with you. Essentially, for a career politician to sign any document that suggests to detain US citizens indefinitely, without charge, on or off US soil, is treason.

I don't care who signed it.. Republican or Democrat, Congresswoman or Senator, current or past president .. they should be charged, tried, and convicted for conspiracy against US citizens.

Get em outta office and have them do jail time. They certainly are meeting the objective of Al Qaida to rob the US citizen freedom, don't they?

We don't need an insurrection, revolution, or civil war. Just civil procedure for indictment, impeachment and their removal from office across the board.

In the meantime, we should enjoy new, open elections for their perspective positions.

SantaNa (anonymous profile)
February 15, 2012 at 11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I completely agree with what SantaNa and Howgreenismyvalley said.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
February 16, 2012 at 3:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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