The Las Positas Tennis Courts rate hikes

violate the spirit of public, municipal tennis courts. 58% 104 votes
seem quite reasonable considering all the necessary improvements and maintenance. 18% 34 votes
I don't know, but in any case the city shouldn't abdicate its responsibility for making sure the courts stay affordable. 22% 41 votes
179 total votes


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To be honest, I don't play much tennis, but the city really needs more public basketball courts. Of course the noise NIMBYs will never let that happen.

Num1UofAn (anonymous profile)
February 28, 2013 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You had me at "abdicate".

John_Adams (anonymous profile)
March 6, 2013 at 10:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Charter tennis courts now, what next? Charter police and fire? They actually exist in some communities. Stop privatization, it's antiAmerican.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
March 6, 2013 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Privatization is not anti-American and this is not privatization. This is corporatism. The city owns the courts and gave them to a company for free to manage and profit from. Who knows why they gave them the courts, which belong to the public? It could have been a back-room deal involving money and/or sex, or it could have had nothing to do with those things, who knows? The truth is we may never know the full extent of the deal made between Elings Park and the city.

Privatization would have been putting the courts up for sale to the highest bidder. The city would have benefited from the sale and the court fees would reflect the true value of the establishment.

What I would like to see is people in communities getting together and voluntarily contributing to the efforts to bring about sustainable semi-public parks. Parks that are open to the public, but privately owned. Many organized communities already have these in some form, but for communities which have no formal organization some people might be able to contribute to buying or securing the land, others may be able to help with building and maintaining the park itself. Unfortunately with all of the local regulations and property taxes, not to mention income taxes, this would be difficult and expensive to accomplish in our current big government environment. That is why cities for the most part have monopolies on parks. And we get this: even the local community has little control over their own parks.

For the time being, however, I think parks are a reasonable and beneficial way for communities to spend money since parks and open space are things that most people can agree on being important. So I'm certainly not against the city building parks in our current environment. It just means that communities need to be vigilant and involved to make sure that the costs to the community are as close as possible to market rates.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
March 6, 2013 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tomato tomata. This tennis court scandal is symptomatic of the greater agenda that includes private prisons. It's the arrogant attitude of entitlement because one has money (and many times little else to offer but money.) Instead they use money for productive purposes, people like this use it as a weapon.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
March 6, 2013 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

*Instead of using money for productive purposes, they use money as a weapon.

If people could edit their own comments you wouldn't have so many repeats.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
March 6, 2013 at 12:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To whom it may concern:

Whether it's the libraries being closed on Mondays, the Courthouse closing at 3 PM, SBCC's track being closed to the masses, or most of the high schools' facilities being closed to the average ballplayer....

....the issue is not privatization, but the exact opposite. Government employees are being paid WAY too much money (especially in benefits) and there is no money left over for Jo Shmoe to go enjoy a game of basketball or tennis on "public grounds." The public employees are too busy being furloughed.

That is to say, many of our "public spaces" have already been privatized, at least in the sense that they are closed and thus are no longer available to anyone who is not a student.

If you can find a way to clean up the graffiti and vandalist at the local schools and parks, and thus allow the school and city administrators to justify keep them open after school-hours, then perhaps you have a great argument.

In the meantime, perhaps you should just shut up and find yourself some nookie.

Schifter (anonymous profile)
June 1, 2013 at 5:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, and Ken as far as "chartering" being un-American, that is EXACTLY what the police and fire departments ARE -- they are hired by their elected representatives. Chartered Police and Fire departments are simply not a part of of the behemoth unions that you seem to be so in love with. are just a union man, and forget that even the people who work for the unions are ultimately hired by the PEOPLE.

But SHEESH, what I am saying? -- we live in California. I must sound like a lunatic to you. But you are still wrong.

Schifter (anonymous profile)
June 1, 2013 at 5:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Schifter you're shifty with the facts. Its privatization and putting lipstick on the pig ain't gonna change that. Would be happy to publicly debate in the appropriate forum but in the meanwhile, well it's "unprintable".

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 1, 2013 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

PS. Go back and read a US civics book in the meantime, drop the Mein Kampf.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 1, 2013 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe the city should turn the courts into a skate park and the academy will be forced to build their own courts.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 1, 2013 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And looks like 80% of the poll respondents also know basic civics, too bad the esteemed Mr. Schifter can't be bothered.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 1, 2013 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sometimes a budget shortfall for a little-used service is a budget shortfall for a little-used service, such as tennis at that location surrounded by a larger recreational operation.

John_Adams (anonymous profile)
June 1, 2013 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe they can use the abandoned left on/off ramps in Montecito.

Ken_Volok (anonymous profile)
June 1, 2013 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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