What happens at the 101’s left-hand on- and off-ramps?

Almost been run off the road more than once. 11% 38 votes
Been cut off plenty of times. 21% 69 votes
Been in an accident. 1% 5 votes
Never even had a near miss. 23% 77 votes
Seen an accident. 2% 7 votes
Totally safe. 33% 106 votes
Whiz by so quick, I miss 'em. 1% 4 votes
Wish the cars would slow down and let me on. 4% 15 votes
321 total votes


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I voted "Never even had a near miss."

I think they are safe the way they are, but I do NOT necessarily feel that way if it was a 3 lane freeway vs. 2 lane.

They might be able to pull it off if they put in some of those giant overhead freeway signs like meh:

I'm sure people in Montecito would love that.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
November 26, 2013 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I find the left hand on ramps confusing...
Usually I'm panhandling for change on that side!

touristunfriendly (anonymous profile)
November 26, 2013 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Only problem I had was a Hwy Patrol car thinking he had the right of way - pulled out from the ramp right in front of me. Then stopped me for no front license plate! (which he couldn't possibly see from the ramp). He commits a moving violation then tickets me for trivia. Gotta love our local LEOs.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
November 26, 2013 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good "point", loonpt.

What's more important is the impact of left-hand ramps when the traffic flow rises with the additional capacity. Remember, this is supposed to last us for another 30 years. Traffic patterns can change dramatically in that time.

When I got my drivers license, the 101 was nowhere near as crowded and frenetic as it is now. Even then, I remember I'd cringe when getting on at the old left-hand on-ramp @Cabrillo ... cars would get big fast in the rear-view mirror, didn't know if I was about to get rear-ended entering the fast lane.

What I remember is lots of cars in the fast lane slowed down dramatically, or they zoomed into the slow lane and passed me there.

Safe? Not.

EastBeach (anonymous profile)
November 26, 2013 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

stays at the 101's left hand on and off ramps.

spacey (anonymous profile)
November 26, 2013 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Barring a last minute reversal ,Georgy wins and Greenspan will throw in the towel and concede.

geeber (anonymous profile)
November 27, 2013 at 6:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This poll is a about what people think about the off ramps in the current two lane configuration. The results have nothing to do with what people's future experiences would be with left hand off ramps on a three lane freeway. Thankfully we have experienced engineers, rather than politicians and their patrons, making critical safety decisions.

Herschel_Greenspan (anonymous profile)
November 27, 2013 at 7:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

barring nothing, and baring nothing, H-G makes far more sense than you left-hand lovers do... as noted often, I've been driving this since 1980...that's 34 years... get rid of the left-hand side on/off ramps, they are dangerous. As of the moment, 100 votes were in, 31 cited problems [this is "Almost been run off..." + "Been cut off..." + "Been in an accident"...+ "Seen an accident"] and this then is 31% in this straw pole. THIS IS WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL HOV LANE, and anticipated increased traffic!
Why pander to the Montecito 101 lobbyists, Jack and pals, who really like the rustic charm of their selfish left-side stuff... and this palaver has more to do with Salud and Helene and whoever making their obedient obeisances to the moneybags over there thinking of their future political races, it's NOT about safety in SB.
As noted: let's cancel the whole thing and make other arrangements. This is such old style thinking.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
November 27, 2013 at 7:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So , .....the accident stats say safe or safer than the slow lane offs , but you two insist that they are unsafe and everybody that disagrees with you is pandering to the guys with the dough? That is a good example of some tightly closed minds if I have ever seen it.

geeber (anonymous profile)
November 28, 2013 at 4:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So it seems the right-wing commentators are "left-hand lovers" so the left-wingers would be right-hand lovers.

Isn't it also true that right-brained people tend to be left-handed?

billclausen (anonymous profile)
November 28, 2013 at 6:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe if the left-wingers are right-hand lovers it's because they believe so strongly in government to always take good care of us and therefore they believe in Caltrans. One has only look at the ACA website debacle to be disabused of this silly notion. Yes building a functional website is not the same as pouring concrete, but the management principles are the same.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
November 28, 2013 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

and what about LeGuin's LEFT HAND OF DARKNESS, and all the Alaskan extreme rightwingers loving THEIR socialistic state government's cash handouts?
Good point, JL, but consistency is difficult for any of us to attain. I can't quite accept your comparison of a "belief in Caltrans" with the sorry state of the federal ACA rollout. If you look at California's eager work with the ACA, and check their website, it is working well and more are signing up. The jury is still out on all this.
Odd that you state, "a belief in Caltrans" -- I don't have any belief in them, or specific belief that government interference is always necessary, but the experience and engineering background of the minuscule Montecito 101 group isn't to be respected, either. Right?
Honestly, let's drop the entire project, save those of us who drive the key stretch DAILY the next 14 friggin years of construction hassle and delays. You know what I'll say: oblige UCSB and big employers to communicate with each other [try SBSCAGS or whatever] and stagger work hours, join the second decade of the 21st century by allowing 50% of the workers to work at home and/or in their apartments... This whole deal isn't worth $500 million.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
November 28, 2013 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

California's ACA website appears to be a model of success, but the federal one is an unmitigated disaster.

I agree with staggered work hours completely. Washington DC has done it for 20 years to great effect.

14 years of construction? Didn't Caltrans (actually a private contractor) replace an entire freeway bridge in 6 months after a bid earthquake. How could Caltrans be incented to speed up the 101 construction.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
November 29, 2013 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have never had a problem using the left lane off ramps, but I don't like using left lane on ramps, they are kind of scary. Scariest overall is the number of distracted drivers on our roads.

blackpoodles (anonymous profile)
December 1, 2013 at 9:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

agree, poodles, and the Sheffield south (leftside) onramp is a nightmare: close it now.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
December 2, 2013 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Those whose driving skills make the left lane ramps "scary" need only to proceed a few moments further south to the next right lane offs and circle back. For the rest of us who have no problem with these ramps we can rest assured that accident statistics prove them to be as safe or safer than slow lane ramps in the area. Let's not try to fix something that is not broken and in doing so save copious amounts of road funds to spend where more urgently needed.

geeber (anonymous profile)
December 2, 2013 at 6:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How much better things would be if people would stop their Fast And Furious driving behavior.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
December 2, 2013 at 6:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why don't you ask Paul Walker?

Botany (anonymous profile)
December 2, 2013 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)


billclausen (anonymous profile)
December 2, 2013 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn, but I do think the Montecito objectionista are just using this as an excuse to delay construction yet again while those who use the 101 suffer through twice daily pollution-emitting traffic jams. Just make a decision and build, already.

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
December 4, 2013 at 6:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

build it, and they shall flee through the town

DrDan (anonymous profile)
December 4, 2013 at 7:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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