Are you enrolling in Obamacare (aka Affordable Care Act)?

Definitely, $700 a month for my family of four is a good deal. 3% 14 votes
Heck no! House Republicans and I agree — obstruct Obamacare! 16% 60 votes
Heck yeah! I'm signing up between October and March! 9% 35 votes
I'm covered by Medicare, so I don't need to. 11% 41 votes
No need, I'm on Medi-Cal; in 2014 it covers people making $15,856 or less. 1% 4 votes
Nope, I'll pay the $95 penalty, but in 2016 it goes up to $695! 3% 14 votes
Thankfully, my employer covers me and my family, so no need. 47% 175 votes
Why not? I'm self-employed, make less than $27K, and need insurance; $175 a month is way better than no coverage. 6% 22 votes
365 total votes


Independent Discussion Guidelines

At the Moment, my Employer covers me with partial affordable Healthcare but since Government Contracts are becoming few and far between, this will be my last year employed in DC, on Friday, August 01, 2013, I will be filing for ObamaCare (if it is still around) and Unemployment (providing that too is still around).

dou4now (anonymous profile)
October 3, 2013 at 5:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm just going to give all my money to the government and become a slave, oh wait, already am.

AZ2SB (anonymous profile)
October 3, 2013 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So according to this poll, 67% are already covered by employers or Medicare. Of the remaining 33%, one third (the 5% and 6% slices) are signing up. Not quite a rousing endorsement, is it?

JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
October 3, 2013 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Anybody able to verify this yet?

loonpt (anonymous profile)
October 3, 2013 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Want Obamacare?

Just dial




At least they're being honest.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
October 3, 2013 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A post from:

"Holy crap! It also is 1-800-duck-wo! Or how about 1-800-dub-kym! Wow! Even 1-800-eta-lzo! if you leave the 1 in the phone number it could be 1-800-f1-tak-yo!

The phone number is 1-800-318-2596. So of you leave the 1, it spells out 1-800-f1uckyo. This proves everything (including that Paul is dead)!

Someone actually took time out of their day to figure this stupidity out. You just had to repeat this drivel because it adds so much to the conversation."

tabatha (anonymous profile)
October 4, 2013 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tabatha and Loonpt you two are just being silly. Please stop being silly.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
October 4, 2013 at 2:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No, a ratio of 67% with employer-provided health insurance and a whopping 33% without health insurance is a crisis.

Some people do not even know what "insurance" really means.

John_Adams (anonymous profile)
October 5, 2013 at 7:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

loonpt - another right-wing myth/lie/deliberate falsehood

Politifact - pants on fire

Another silliness.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
October 7, 2013 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Of the remaining 33%, one third (the 5% and 6% slices) are signing up. "

One cannot apply numbers from an online poll in a relatively wealthy area to the rest of the country.

If there are 114 million employed, then 11% of that is about 7 million. There have already been more than 8 million hits on the AHA website.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
October 7, 2013 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

no dolphinpod, Tabatha makes eminent sense and you should try reading some of her references. Up with Obamacare,down with Tea Party fools.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
October 7, 2013 at 10:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Up with Obamacare,down with Tea Party fools.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
October 7, 2013 at 10:45 a.m.

And sideways with moderates.

dolphinpod14 (anonymous profile)
October 8, 2013 at 6:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

no, Sideways is a bar where I meet Bill Clausen and KV to drink Perrier and sort out the world's issues, as well as healthcare.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
October 8, 2013 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Health insurance shoppers suffer sticker shock

loonpt (anonymous profile)
October 8, 2013 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sideways can also be a state of mind, but only if you think it is.

billclausen (anonymous profile)
October 9, 2013 at 4:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sloterdijk rants about "the prison of reason" -- hey, it isn't all about healthcare.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
October 9, 2013 at 4:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)


Obamacare is unconstitutional.

"We now know Obamacare was tax legislation. Consequently, it was undeniably a “bill for raising revenue,” for which the Constitution mandates compliance with the Origination Clause (Art. I, Sec. 7). The Clause requires that tax bills must originate in the House of Representatives. Obamacare did not."

Harry Reid introduced it in the Senate.


loonpt (anonymous profile)
October 9, 2013 at 6:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

too bad the John Roberts-led Supreme Court of the U.S. contradicts your assertion and has formally held up the constitutionality of the ACA. I presume your legal expertise and acumen outdo the majority of the Supreme Court Justices, loon.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
October 10, 2013 at 6:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's too bad your judgement is so clouded by the propaganda on MSNBC, that isn't what the Supreme Court decided at all. The only thing they upheld was the individual mandate as a tax and that the government could compel us to buy healthcare or else face a fine. So now that has been established, the court can now decide on the constitutionality regarding the origination clause if someone brings it forward. Fortunately house conservatives, led by Representative Trent Franks (R., Ariz.), are pushing an Origination Clause challenge in the federal courts.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
October 10, 2013 at 10:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

so wrong on so much, loon, I NEVER watch MSNBC, it's tripe just like Fox etc., try making insults that make sense, dude.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
October 10, 2013 at 11:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry for the incorrect insult, but it's hard when you repeat their talking points word for word.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
October 10, 2013 at 1:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Republican Tea Party Reps are acting unconstitutionally under the 14th Amendment.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
October 10, 2013 at 2:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What part?

The thing is that congress does two things - they pass bills and they fund those bills. They are separate tasks. Congress can pass a bill and then choose not to fund it.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
October 10, 2013 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Amendment 14, section 4:
Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution section 4: that section reads:
“The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.”
The debt ceiling is actually illegal, invalid in itself, and as President Obama has the right and duty to void the House's supposed right to stop a budget act.

DrDan (anonymous profile)
October 10, 2013 at 6:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Looks like there have been a whopping 51,000 signups on the website in the first week:

At this rate we'll have everybody signed up for Obamacare in....what, 2026?

loonpt (anonymous profile)
October 11, 2013 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AHA was only designed for about 15% of the population. I have read that more than 51,000 have signed up - but that is still a pretty good number given the website problems and they have until the end of the year to sign up. That 51,000 probably includes kids, for whom healthcare could have life and death consequences. If that is bad, then I do not understand modern society.

tabatha (anonymous profile)
October 11, 2013 at 4:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well the US total population is 313 million, so 15% would be 47 million. That means we are 1% of the way to getting your 15% of total population signed up for Obamacare. Good luck with your goal, tabatha!! Personally, my goal would be to get the best possible health care to the most amount of people. That means bringing the cost of health care down substantially. Obamacare is going to do the opposite and people are going to receive a worse quality of health care, less of it and it will be more expensive. Obamacare is a scheme to make the insurance companies and the medical industrial complex even more rich.

And hahaha, DrDan, you know the bankers wrote that part.. Well they can go f themselves. I have no interest in paying our war machine debt, they counterfeit enough money for themselves.

Ya sure, I may be picking and choosing which parts of the Constitution I want to follow, but you have to understand that some of the basic concepts like the BoR are genius and the pinnacle of how a non-violent and moral society should act toward each other. The idea that the government should only provide for the protection of the rights, life and freedoms of the people and not try to organize society for us is far superior than essentially letting lobbyists, bankers and giant corporations micromanage our society for their own benefit.

loonpt (anonymous profile)
October 11, 2013 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Obamacare Navigator Hasn't Signed Up Anyone Because It's Too Expensive

"Thus far everybody has taken a look at the rates and they've walked out the door."

loonpt (anonymous profile)
October 31, 2013 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just because your employer "provides" health insurance does not mean you don't have to worry about these rapidly rising health insurance costs. You do, and you will. And so will your employer.

No cost containments were built into this plan. Just the promise you will like the increased premium product better, than your current "junk rip-off" plans you thought you were happy with.

And notice how none of the discussion actually promises better health care in the US, which currently ranks near the bottom among industrialized nations for health care quality. We only ask that someone else pay for the privilege of continuing our present rotten medical industry wealth-redistribution system we for some reason dare to call health care.

Health "care" itself in the US is the true rip-off junk. But few are noticing. Obamacare is merely an attempt to staunch the bleeding of unfunded present costs; not to generate improved health care outcomes in any way whatsoever. Take a look at the WHO health quality rankings and keep asking why we remain at the bottom.

Some of you should be outraged at this fundamental flaw Obamacare refused to even address. Be well and thrive. And watch out for the medical industry diagnosing "diseases" that surprisingly match the size of your health insurance plan.

foofighter (anonymous profile)
November 10, 2013 at 11:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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