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Posted on October 21 at 3:19 p.m.

U of H Kaleo The Voice has this:

Students gathered across the IT center on campus to protest against the university’s sublease on Mauna Kea that was discussed at the Board of Regents meeting regarding the development of the Thirty Meter Telescope."

http://www.kaleo.org/features/semeste...

Reason also covered the protest over construction of the telescope on Mauna Kea, " a sacred place where the Sky Father and the Earth Mother coupled and gave birth to the Hawaiian people."

"Paradox: Christian Creationism Bad - Native American Creationism Good" Ronald Bailey Oct. 21, 2014

http://reason.com/blog/2014/10/21/par...

I don't think ignoring the sacred traditions of original inhabitants of any region is humorous, so this reminded me of Firesign Theater's sarcasm on the absurdity of colonialism in 'Temporarily Humboldt County'? one verse:

"INDIAN: Welcome, White Brother!
WAGON BOSS: Injuns! Draw the wagons up into a circle!
INDIAN: Why do you always do that?
WAGON BOSS: We get better reception that way! Do you mind if I put this antenna up on yonder peak?
INDIAN: That's our Sacred Mountain.
WAGON BOSS: This is our Sacred Antenna! It's shaped like a cross! Made out of aluminum. Er-got any aluminum?
INDIAN: We've still got some corn left.
PIONEER: Hey! Corn! Now we can make whiskey!
ANOTHER PIONEER: We've been waitin' hundreds o' years for this!
THIRD PIONEER: Say! I just invented a Tom Collins!
WAGON BOSS: Here, Injun! Ya want some firewater?
INDIAN: No. We were warned by our Elders not to drink anything that would make us weak or silly.
WAGON BOSS: (laughs) Put in their well!
INDIAN: That's not a well. It's the Eye of the Holy Serpent Mound, on which your standing.
WAGON BOSS: It's a butte!
INDIAN: No, it's a mound.
WAGON BOSS: And right purty, too! er- can ya' move it?
INDIAN: But - why?
WAGON BOSS: Railroad's comin' thru! Right now!"
etc

http://www.madmusic.com/song_details....

On Telescope Groundbreaking Interrupted

Posted on October 21 at 9:25 a.m.

realitycheck88 - right, and why aren't the Measure P supporters who are stuck in 1969 and focused on the Platform Holly blowout lobbying against the current oil retrieval practices there that are the same techniques used in 1969 and that haven't caused problems, rather than focusing on Measure P.

On Welcome to the Wrong Side of History

Posted on October 21 at 9:19 a.m.

wallymoon - The Indy's opposition to Measure P may be based on just what the NO endorsement states: 1) It's susceptible to costly legal challenges because it's written in a confusing and potentially litigious manner, and 2) Measure P is advertised as an anti-fracking initiative, and there isn't any fracking in the county or any proposed. The county already has one of the strictest restrictions on fracking in the country, passed by county supervisors in response to the 2 past instances of fracking the two past instances of fracking, and 3) a ballot measure should be used only as a last resort, and county supervisors had taken action against fracking before Measure P was written.

Measure P support and opposition to the Indy's NO on P endorsement aren't based on facts, but on the fictional meme that NO on P is funded by oil companies and that Santa Barbara County is endangered by oil exploration practices that are currently banned here and that have caused problems in other areas. Measure P is supported by people who aren't the UCSB professors they claim to be in a dishonest attempt to counter the No on P stance of a current UCSB professor.

On We, the People, Say 'Yes on Measure P!'

Posted on October 20 at 4:04 p.m.

Isn't the Indy traditionally on the public safety side of ballot measures?

On Disingenuous

Posted on October 20 at 2:58 p.m.

nativegeo, thanks, yep, I worked for a UCSB chemistry professor for 4 years after I graduated, and one of his personal interests, in addition to muon capture, was recovering methane hydrate offshore. Bubbles big enough to cause cavitation under ships is a lot of methane hydrate.

On More Renewables, Not Less Fracking

Posted on October 20 at 2:37 p.m.

Methane clathrate, a cage-like molecule that methane forms in water, has a magnetic moment. There's enough methane clathrate released from the ocean floor in the Bermuda Triangle that it's been proposed as an explanation for magnetic compass disturbances, sinking ships, fires, explosions, and off-course aircraft.

On More Renewables, Not Less Fracking

Posted on October 20 at 2:26 p.m.

The Fakery of Modern Global Warming Science
Methane is Weaker, Not Stronger

"Climatology is so fraudulent that the claims are often the opposite of the obvious truth. The claimed "potency" of methane is an example.

The fake logic is that since methane absorbs more radiation than CO2, it is a stronger (more potent) greenhouse gas. Adding real numbers shows the opposite."

http://nov79.com/gbwm/methane.html

CO2 Absorption Spectrum

There is no Valid Mechanism for CO2 Creating Global Warming

http://nov79.com/gbwm/ntyg.html

On More Renewables, Not Less Fracking

Posted on October 20 at 2:08 p.m.

atellite data showing methane release not correlated with fracking Fig. 2 lGlobal map
Methane observations from the Greenhouse Gases Observing
SATellite: Comparison to ground‐based TCCON data
and model calculations
GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS VOL. 38, L15807, doi:10.1029/2011GL047871, 2011

http://core.kmi.open.ac.uk/download/p...

Methane has a lifetime in the atmosphere of 10 years; CO2's lifetime is 200.

The Playing Field Isn’t Remotely Level

May 19, 2013 at 11:27 am
"Climate skeptics don’t hire advertising agencies to help them manage their brand. Green groups do. So tell me again which side is lavishly funded?

I’ve noted that Greenpeace is now so lavishly funded it recently purchased a custom-built, £14 million ($22 million) yacht.
I’ve talked about how the World Wildlife Fund (WWF)
has nearly three-quarters of a billion dollars at its disposal annually
is active in more than 100 nations
has offices everywhere you look, including 11 in Pakistan alone
In fact, the WWF is so stinking rich that last week we learned it has hired Clear, a strategy consultancy owned by M&C Saatchi, “to focus on developing its brand in Australia.”
M&C Saatchi is a global advertising agency. Its client list includes companies such as Hyundai, Coca-Cola, Porsche, and Reebok. Reporting on this development, an Austalian website quoted WWF employee Marni Ryan. Please note her title:
“Australians know who we are, but not always what we do,” said WWF National Manager of Brand, Marketing and Innovation’s Marni Ryan. “We want our brand in Australia to be known for the big initiatives in our own backyard and the region.”

http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2013/0...

Almost exactly a year ago, Time magazine revealed that the Sierra Club had secretly taken over $25 million in donations from the gas industry, mostly from… Chesapeake Energy – one of the biggest gas drilling companies in the U.S…. [backup link]
Time’s environmental activist reporter, Bryan Walsh, tried his best to spin the story. He portrayed America’s “oldest environmental group” as a passive victim to which embarrassing things just happen.
January 27, 2013
http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2013/0...

On More Renewables, Not Less Fracking

Posted on October 20 at 1:21 p.m.

"Look near 3 µ or 3000 cm-1 for the major infrared peak of methane. Do you see any of it? There is none. This means that at its level of only 1.8 ppm in air, methane is not a significant absorber. This means it cannot be an active “greenhouse gas”."

IR absorption spectra, H2O, CO2, CH4
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/imag...

NOAA Arctic Surface Methane Gas Decreasing
http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a0...

NOAA Non-Existent Increase in CO2 Since 1958
http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a0...

On More Renewables, Not Less Fracking

Posted on October 20 at 12:36 p.m.

Methane contribution to GHG: 0.066%

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Pag...

On More Renewables, Not Less Fracking

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