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Posted on April 13 at 3:42 p.m.
Oxymoron of a charge, "willfull" adj. referring to acts which are intentional, conscious, and directed toward achieving a purpose. Some willful conduct which has wrongful or unfortunate results is considered "hardheaded," "stubborn" and even "malicious." Example: "The defendant's attack on his neighbor was willful."
So am thoroughly confused as to how the 83 yr old "willfully" discharged the weapon when he didn't have his hand on it? Or do you have substantiating evidence that he rigged the firearm to discharge if he bumped a spot on his gym bag or had an external trigger in the bag handle like some James Bond spy movie?
Based on the article, and a knowledge of how the nazi prosecutors work, they slapped him with all possible charges to see which ones stick. An everyday ploy on how to generate finances for the city and the corrupt prison system that generates billions in income by making more prisoners.
You have provided one incident of as justification that all people who openly or concealed carry are a risk. Lets apply your theory to the only ones you want authorized., here are multiple incidents of the "only ones authorized" to carry shooting people, abusing power, etc, etc and they far outnumber your example mrgeep.
Based on what appears to be your inference that one is too many, so too you should be clamoring for police to surrender their firearms as they all cant be trusted for the failures of the few, bravo, bravo, bravo! Actually, pathetic, pathetic, pathetic is more appropriate!
On Open Carry at Starbucks
Posted on April 12 at 6:22 p.m.
When did the US legal system convert to Napoleonic law where the accused are automatically presumed guilty and must prove their innocence?
As for modeling gun laws after auto regulations, you know what, I could live with that.
No laws barring purchases in other states, buy at any age, travel to any state without having to store your car away, etc, etc, etc. Yeah we would be able to live with that!
Posted on April 12 at 8:19 a.m.
.....Here are many others to reference http://rkba.org/research/kasler/prote...
Why is it that the best police response times are 4 minutes, average 15-20 minutes? What you going to do when the police are minutes away? After all, FBI UCR database 1.36 million violent crimes reported, USDOJ National Victimization Report 2008 4.8 million violent crimes unreported http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty... and over 9 million property crimes. So lets see your earth shattering studies that show that you will never ever be a victim of a violent crime, RTOFLMFAO, and the moon is made of cheese.
Waiting for binky and any other petulant little child using sexual innuendos to compensate for their lack of gray matter to present their earth shattering study where an equal number of antis and pro gun people are lined up side by side. Then binky and his associates will drool as they take their hands and physically measure everyones genitals and prove through actual measurements that owning a firearm is to compensate for lack of manhood. Lets see your study oh darn, there I go again demanding hard facts from those who have none, and never have.
Posted on April 12 at 8:18 a.m.
.....• • Armed woman fends off burglar (CA)• • Guard opens fire during armored car robbery attempt (WA)• • Police question son's story after he's shot by mom (WI)• • 70-Year-Old Winter Haven Man Shoots Would-be Thieves (FL)• • Homeowner Shoots Intruder; OKC Police Arrest Suspects (OK)• • Armed homeowner stops 2 violent home invaders (MS)• • Concealed carry permit holder fends off 4 attackers (AZ)• • Kenner Business Owner Shoots and Kills Robber (LA)• • Police ID robbery suspect shot, killed by Phoenix homeowner (AZ)• • Shotgun handy for Yakima man with burglars (WA)• • Suspect shot during attempted robbery (KY)• • Homeowners confront intruders with gunfire (NY)• • Five shot in Cocoa; police investigating (FL)• • Elderly Man Shoots Intruder (OH)• • Burglary Suspect Shot by Homeowner in Spartanburg County (SC)• • West Side Resident Shoots Would-Be Robber (OH)• • Falls man shoots burglar, Falls police say (NY)• • Investigators: Deadly shooting was self-defense (CA)• • Homeowner Shoots and Kills Intruder (MO)• • 74-year-old N.C. state senator shoots, wounds intruder at his home (NC)• • Armed woman saves relatives from violent home invaders (OH)• • Never Bring A Bomb To A Gunfight (KS)• • Dispute Over Girl Leads To Great Falls, Montana Shooting (MT)• • Teen, 17, Dies In Shooting By Homeowner (TN)• • Liquor store robber fatally shot by clerk in Crest Hill (IL)• • 2 suspects in custody, homeowner charged after burglary try (NY)• • Shooting victim is kin to GOP leader Meehan (PA)• • Albuquerque, New Mexico Home Invader Shot and Killed (NM)• • Man shoots alleged thieves in home invasion (TX)• • Retired couple defend home against burglary (CA)•
These details and self defense web sites also show how corrupt and criminally active the supposed "only ones" the police are, freaking hypocrites!
Yeah we see how the US & State Supreme Courts have ruled 10 separate times that the government is not liable for the individuals protection, yet you antis infer they are?
Reference: Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App.181)
In this case three rape victims sued the city and its police department under the following facts: Two of the victims were upstairs when they heard the other being attacked by men who had broken in downstairs. Half an hour having passed and their roommate's screams having ceased, they assumed the police must have arrived in response to their repeated phone calls. In fact their calls had somehow been lost in the shuffle while the roommate was being beaten into silent acquiescence. So when the roommates went downstairs to see to her, as the court's opinion graphically describes it, "For the next fourteen hours the women were held captive, raped, robbed, beaten, forced to commit sexual acts upon each other, and made to submit to the sexual demands" of their attackers.
Posted on April 12 at 8:17 a.m.
.....There are so many more, all you have to do is go to that states concealed carry or gun rights organization and start counting.
• • Armed Bahamas resident shoots violent home invader in self defense (Bahamas)• • Local Clerks Taking Arms Against Robbers (CA)• • Bait camp owner not charged in fatal shooting (TX)• • 2 Charged In Connection With Home Burglary, Shooting (FL)• • Woman shoots, wounds ex-boyfriend (AK)• • Attempted robbery thwarted by armed citizen (OH)• • Daughter's ex-boyfriend shot by dad during assault (AZ)• • Columbus: Third defensive use of a pistol in less than seven days (OH)• • Homeowner kills robber in Ocoee shootout (FL)• • Party store customer swipes masked man's gun, kills him (MI)• • Another Toledo robber shot, this time killed (OH)• • Off-duty Las Vegas officer shoots armed suspect in Henderson home invasion (NV)• • Grocery store robber fatally shot by armed clerk (OH)• • Intruder shot in Henrico County home (VA)• • Toledo robber shot by store owner (OH)• • Don't bring a knife to a gunfight (TN)• • Burglar Killed by Homeowner: Dallas Police (TX)• • Man shot and killed in West Babylon home (NY)• • Convenience store clerk shoots violent robber in self defense (FL)• • Police In Charlotte Investigate Deadly Shooting (NC)• • Store's owner won't be charged (MS)• • Knife-Wielding Attacker Shot Dead (TN)• • Think there's a burglar? Police say get away and call them (CA)• • Man Fires Shot At Intruder In Delhi Twp. (OH)• • Armed Cincinnati homeowner scares away a burglar (OH)• • Armed homeowner sends intruder fleeing (MO)• • South African armed robber shot by business owner (South Africa)• • Decatur Man Shoots Burglary Suspect (GA)• • Suspect killed in home invasion gunbattle (TX)• • St. Petersburg, FL homeowner shoots home invader in self defense (FL)• • Police: neighbor shot intruder during home invasion (IN)• • Armed homeowner stops violent home invader (CA)• • Man Fatally Shoots Intruder (TX)• • Robbery Suspect Fatally Shot in Game Room (TX)• • Lancaster Store Clerk Fires Gun At Armed Robber (PA)• • Open carry deters armed robbery in Kennesaw (GA)• • Intruder, occupant exchange gunshots (OH)• • Northport home invasion victim shoots suspect (AL)• • Homeowner shoots suspected burglar (NM)• • House-sitter shoots at intruder, misses (WA)• • Fight Over Unleashed Dog, Gun Pulled (FL)• • Police: Man pulls gun during knife fight, faces no charges (TN)• • 3 Shot During Robbery At Vacant Fulton Home (GA)• • Cleared: Father who chopped off intruder's ear with samurai sword after he threatened to rape and kill his family (UK)• • Suspected Burglar Shot To Death At New Orleans Residence (LA)
Posted on April 12 at 8:15 a.m.
....facts than these experts who by chance, are anti gun, yeah, they are, sucks for the antis when their own study hurts their position, LOL! www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10...
Yet we have your earth shattering medical studies that prove without a doubt that removing an inanimate object from the proximity of a suicidal person immediately changes their thought process and feelings thereby preventing their suicide, ROTFLMFAO, nope, doesn’t exist, never will, prove otherwise morons!
Why is it that suicide rates in "enlightened countries" are equal or higher than the US? Do a review, you will find out.
Maybe we should kill the old wild west fantasy perpetrated by dime novels and hollywood. Naw that would destroy another straw-man argument they so dearly love to play, 40 plus states and counting, yet no blood baths eh?
Where are all those examples from the 40 plus other states allowing concealed carry etc, etc, etc, where every single time you moronic anti gun hoplophobes scream “blood will run in the streets” a return to the wild west. Then no blood baths happen, every single time. First, let us see your proof of the wild west being synonymous with shootouts on a daily basis more so than today, or is your historical reference and facts only based on dime novels and Hollywood? Here’s the truth of it, as noted by John Pierce in a 2009 column. The big trailhead towns of the 1870s were rather peaceful, with a total of only 45 homicides between 1870 and 1885 in these towns: Abilene, Caldwell, Dodge City, Ellsworth and Wichita, according to historian W. Eugene Hollon "Frontier Violence: Another Look". The murder rate was 1 per 100,000 citizens. Stack that against a major city today, and you will soon be longing for those “days of yester-year when the Lone Ranger rides again” or something like that.
ATF Max 8 million CPL's US, approximately 186 million age 21 or older or 4.3% of the people licensed for CPL.
Possible deaths from CPL holders in 3 year time span from Violence Policy Center report last year, 107 or 35 per year equals .0000044 per concealed license holder. You can also review Florida's data on CCW at http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/stat... it says the same thing.
JAMA http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/... 700,000 doctors in US kill 44,000 to 98,000 by medical malpractice every year or .064 to .14 per physician.
Physician is .064 or .14 /.0000044 = 14,000 to 31,818 times more likely to harm you than a CPL holder.
So where is the risk from concealed carry holders and why aren't you anti nuts crying to ban doctors?
Lets look at ALL those successful self defenses with a firearm over the last month.
Of course we have the following web sites http://www.keepandbeararms.com/news/n...http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/http://www.kc3.com/self_defense/Self_...http://www.americanrifleman.org/BlogE...
Posted on April 12 at 8:14 a.m.
….. that of the 99 million checks for purchases from licensed sources only, since 1994. We see a total of 1.67 million valid rejections, a 68% decrease in felons attempting to buy from a licensed source, and 58% of those rejected being felons. We see that between 2000-2008 only 13,024 were prosecuted, or less than 1%.
We of course see how the anti gun lobby claims such effectiveness of this pathetically useless law with the hard data they can present that the 1.66 million plus who weren’t prosecuted then didn’t go and buy from an unlicensed source? We also see how the USDOJ survey in 1997 where felons identified purchasing their weapons from 80% street buys, 12% retail stores, 2% gun shows. Then that 68% reduction of attempted buys from licensed sources puts the street buys at 90% in today’s numbers. Firearm Use by Offenders, Bureau of Justice Statistics, November 2001 http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty...Amazing how ineffective that poster child of futility is and this trend is similar with ALL gun control laws.
I mean shall we even describe the gun control experiments going on in Australia, Canada and England that began in 1997? England violent crime goes up from 445k reported to 1.4 mill in 2008, murders don't go down, firearms crimes up, Australia 30% increase, Canada stayed the same, murders didn't go down, firearms crimes up, with violent crime rates all at minimum 2 times the US Violent Crime rate (England at about 5 times the US Violent Crime rate). The US Violent Crime rate which has been going down for over 2 decades . Yeah we see how less guns equals more crimes.
Oh darn, forgot to make sure that when you check their data, they count the same as we do, uh, they don't. Don't forget either that England only counts solved cases, so as not to scare their tourist trade off! This result is repeated wherever gun control is attempted.
Shall we now look at government studies that show gun control doesn't do anything to prevent violence, maybe you should start here with an FBI report from several years ago?
You can go here and read the National Sciences Foundation report from 2004 on gun control laws, a study that was formed by the anti gun Clinton Administration so just like the Ludgwig & Cook study noted, doesn't prove any causality theory, much less any effect of gun control laws on violent crime, but then you have better data and ....
Posted on April 12 at 8:13 a.m.
Here, we will help you anti's with THE FACTS.
Oh that’s right, Haynes vs. U.S. 390 U.S. 85 1968, where the US Supreme Court ruled 8-1 in favor of Haynes that any law requiring a felon to self incriminate themselves and violate their 5th amendment rights was not enforceable as a charge for prosecution. Hence criminals don't have to follow the laws that do so, e.g. your stolen weapons, registrations, etc.... Amazing how the criminals don't have to obey these laws yet only law abiding citizens do? This just validates the hypocrisy that laws affect only the felons! After all, 20,000 gun laws and we see how effective a piece of legislation is at stopping violence because if it did, there wouldn't be ANY VIOLENT CRIME. Shall we talk about the effect we have on a bordering country? A Comparison of Violent and Firearm Crime Rates in the Canadian Prairie Provinces and Four U.S. Border States, 1961-2003, Parliamentary Research Branch of the Library of Parliament, March 7, 2005. “Comparing average crime rates for 2003 in the three prairie provinces and in the four bordering states as presented in the report for those crimes that are similarly defined and measured in both countries, we found that, in total, both violent and property crime rates were two thirds higher in the Canadian prairie provinces than in the four border states. Average crime rates were higher in the Canadian Prairies for all crimes with comparable definitions and statistics in the U.S.A.: Homicide – 1.1x higher; Aggravated assault, assault with a weapon and attempted murder – 1.5 x higher; Robbery – 2.1x higher; Breaking and Entering – 2.3x higher; and Motor Vehicle Theft – 3.2x higher.”
USDOJ, a government agency National Gang Activity report 2008 identifies up to 80% of ALL violent crime in the US is attributable to career criminals/gangs http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs32/32...
Shall we review police studies in Chicago and MYC where between 76-80% of those involved in shootings, both shooter and injured were both involved in criminal activity at the time of the incident.www.popcenter.org/problems/drive_by_s...
You do nothing to change our pathetic justice system where the poster-child of all gun control laws set the example for the pathetic futility of enforcement. Time and again, anti-gun lobbyists revive the tired “slippery slope” argument to promote what they claim are common sense gun laws, such as mandatory background checks.
Of course we see from the USDOJ Background Check & Firearm transfer report 2008 http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/... Brady Check report….
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