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Posted on January 30 at 9:02 a.m.

Regarding, above "…when given the science-based recommendations of the world’s leading experts…"

The assumption above is based on lack of information — along with the attempt to extend it via the puerile ad hominem "nineteenth-century quack doctors and snake-oil salesmen" — as well as the inane attempt to denigrate "the internet", as if the internet were the source of information rather than simply a transmission medium that is also used by all of those the writer deems "the world's leading experts."

There are plenty of extremely well-credentialed experts who reject what the better-informed sometimes refer to as "this sick profiteering cycle of big pharma."

These experts simply are not as widely known by those who rely on NYT-CNN-AP-WaPo-ABC-CBS-MSNBC-Fox-HuffPo-Reuters-BBC-NPR-PBS… for their views of the world, for two reasons:

(1) 90% of US mass media is now controlled by just six transnational corporations, every one of which earns tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars annually out of the $35.9 *billion* of annual profits of the giant transnational pharmaceutical corporations (up to 80% of which, according to the New England Journal of Medicine, are criminal organizations).

(2) Independent media is far more fragmented than mass corporate media — and thus seems less accessible to many who are otherwise reasonably computer-proficient yet who are unaware that every new post from dozens or even hundreds of independent media outlets of their choice can be accessed on a single browser page with just one click per day by using RSS feeds.

Just a few of those well-credentialed experts can be accessed locally, via one's choice of text material, brief videos, or lengthy videos, with just one click, at the discussion section of this Noozhawk article posted Wednesday of this week:

http://www.noozhawk.com/article/santa...

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Incidentally — or perhaps not — regarding RSS (Rich Site Summary [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS ] ) AaronSchwartz [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Sw... ], MIT student and Harvard fellow, computer programmer, entrepreneur, writer, political organizer and Internet visionary, was heavily involved in its development.

His suicide at the age of 26 is considered by many to have resulted from his being hounded to death and threatened with most of his life in prison by the so-called US Department of Justice for a "crime" that was the digital equivalent of checking out too many library books at one time.

On Measles in Santa Barbara a False Alarm

Posted on January 30 at 5:56 a.m.

Regarding (above at January 30, 2015 at 3:51 a.m.), "…all of us not only accepted Dr. Salk’s vaccine but praised him for it and would have wished severe flogging for those parents who refused to have their children vaccinated…"

"Our collective consciousness around infectious disease has been programmed with the alluringly reductionist perspective that vaccination has helped to save us from major deadly diseases, irrespective of the radical changes in sanitation and hygiene that marked the early to mid twentieth century...

"[POLIO is] perhaps the most emblematic example of oversimplified benefits and dismissed risks...

"An exploration of the true natural history of this dread disease reveals more than iron lungs and crutches cast aside by valiant needles. After the live Salk vaccine paralyzed hundreds of adults and children, *strategic redefinition of polio in 1955 eliminated labeling as “poliomyelitis”* all of the cases of acute flaccid paralysis caused by myriad viruses and also toxic exposures such as DDT.

"In fact, what would have formerly been called polio, transverse myelitis and *Guillain-Barre* are increasingly common today.

"Ironically and tragically, the only US cases of confirmed polio since 1973 have been *vaccine-associated polio paralysis*, prompting the acknowledgement of infectious risks associated with the live vaccine still imposed upon third world citizens.

"…In 2012, just when the Global Polio Eradication Initiative claimed ‘mission accomplished’ in India, with no reports of wild-type polio infection in the 2011, over 47,000 cases of polio-like “acute flaccid paralysis” were reported in the same year in children by The National Polio Surveillance Programme (TNPSP) in populations *fully immunized with bivalent oral polio vaccine*. TNPSP *conveniently renamed* these cases “non-polio acute flaccid paralysis” to avoid connecting them to the polio vaccines, describing them as “mild cases,” and “…of little consequence,” despite the fact that they were shown to be twice as lethal as naturally transmitted polio.

"Additionally, not only has a *far more deadly strain of vaccine-induced polio virus* now displaced naturally circulating strains, but amazingly, modern technology has now made it impossible to fully eradicate it, as a fully infectious, replication competent form is now entirely synthesizable in a laboratory."

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Excerpts above are from the section:

'Didn’t vaccines eradicate infectious disease? Isn’t that why we’re living long healthy lives?'

at:

'Why Vaccines Aren’t Paleo'
Dr. Kelly Brogan, M.D. and Sayer Ji
Green Med Info / Waking Times

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/02/25...

On Measles in Santa Barbara a False Alarm

Posted on January 30 at 5:20 a.m.

Regarding "…give you the right to endanger the very lives of other people's children…":

This appears to be in reference to "herd immunity."

Basic logic begs the question: Why do so many have to be vaccinated if those who are vaccinated are immune?

Dr. David Fisk of Sansum Clinic claims that for “herd immunity” to be effective, up to 95 percent of the members of a community must be vaccinated.

This nonsense about "herd immunity" has been thoroughly debunked.

Vaccines are being forced on the public under the false premise of creating "herd immunity" and the falsehood that non-vaccination is dangerous to the person and those around them.

The assumption that a 95% vaccination rate will eradicate infectious challenges, and that one can supplant the vital role of natural re-exposure with vaccine boosters, with the goal of full control or complete eradication, is a fairy tale without basis in science.

Natural herd immunity does, in fact, exist. But *vaccine induced herd immunity is not the same as disease induced herd immunity.* The science clearly shows that there's a big difference between naturally developed herd immunity and vaccine-induced herd immunity in a population.

“The body defends most efficiently as a result of ongoing re-exposure,” explains Dr. Suzanne Humphries, MD, in her essay:

'Herd Immunity: Flawed Science and Mass Vaccination Failures'
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/herd...

Vaccination disrupts natural immunity and substitutes an inferior, narrower, and shorter-lived protection. And vaccination weakens the immune system in multiple ways; it has become clear that vaccination makes a person more susceptible to disease and to a more serious case of it.

This explains why we are *seeing outbreaks of measles, flu and other diseases in fully vaccinated populations* (note the reports from all over the world at the bottom of the second comment here) that allegedly should have been protected by so-called "herd immunity".

Instead the group was *more at risk* and may have actually contracted the disease from the vaccines.

Until this "herd immunity" nonsense is fully laid to rest, government agencies such as the Santa Barbara County Health Department and local allopaths — depending for their continuing education, at least in part, on pharmaceutical salespersons — will continue to blame unvaccinated people and to impose yet more immune-weakening vaccines on the public that contain neurotoxins, immunotoxins, heavy metals, mutating viruses and various other industrial filth that *induce diseases* that are increasingly more contagious and virulent.

On Measles in Santa Barbara a False Alarm

Posted on January 29 at 5:43 p.m.

"..health officials…blaming the recent outbreak of diseases — including measles and whooping cough — on the drop in vaccination rates in recent years."

"Health officials" are lying — as do most government officials.

The science is clear on this: regarding measles, there are outbreaks all over the world where vaccination rates are extremely high, up to 98 and 99 percent.

Here are just a few:

'Measles Outbreak among Vaccinated High School Students -- Illinois'
CDC - MMWR Weekly
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrh...

'Measles outbreak in a vaccinated school population: epidemiology, chains of transmission and the role of vaccine failures.'
US National Library of Medicine
National Institutes of Health
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic...

'Explosive School-Based Measles Outbreak in Vaccinated Students - Finland'
http://www.vaccines.me/articles/jfdlf...

[above includes excerpts from: American Journal of Epidemiology 1998 Vol. 148, No. 11: 1103-1110 ]

At the bottom of the article above are links to these related articles:

'A Measles Outbreak Occurring in a Population With a High Vaccination Coverage - Rio De Janeiro'

'Measles Outbreak: Prior Vaccination Is Not Always Associated With Immunity Nor With The Presence Of Specific Antibodies'

'Major Measles Epidemic in Quebec Despite 99% Vaccination Coverage'

'Measles Epidemic in Cape Town With 91% Vaccination Coverage'

'Measles Outbreak in Previously Immunized Children, Florida, US'

'Measles Outbreak in a Fully Immunized Secondary School Population - Texas'

'Primary and Secondary Measles Vaccine Failures in Measles Outbreak, Brazil'

On Measles in Santa Barbara a False Alarm

Posted on January 29 at 12:16 p.m.

Regarding, "No one cares what you think. Not a soul here gives a rats ass what John Tieber thinks."

Sadly, this baseless conjecture is also delusional.

The belief that one person can know what an entire group is thinking and feeling is particularly worrisome in this context, considering that many among this group, perhaps even most, are read-only participants and thus are invisible.

On Cases of Measles Increase Across California

Posted on January 29 at 9:23 a.m.

For those who prefer videos (though 3 of these 5 are lengthy), Anun Naki just posted the five below, embedded, with commentary, among 10+ comments at Noozhawk here:

'Possible Case of Measles Reported in Santa Barbara County Child'
http://www.noozhawk.com/article/santa...

[11:27] Suzanne Humphries on Vaccines

[01:11:11] Dr Andrew Wakefield tells his side of the story in the MMR Vaccine causes Autism debate

[01:25:12] Dr Mercola Interviews Dr Andrew Wakefield on His MMR Study

[01:48:04] Vaccine injuries, Dr. Andrew Moulden, Conférence Liberté de Choix en Santé, Montréal

[12:52] : Tolerance Lost - Dr Andrew Moulden BA, MA, MD, Phd

On Cases of Measles Increase Across California

Posted on January 29 at 9:19 a.m.

For those who prefer videos (though 3 of these 5 are lengthy), Anun Naki just posted the five below, with commentary, at Noozhawk here:

'Possible Case of Measles Reported in Santa Barbara County Child'
http://www.noozhawk.com/article/santa...

[11:27] Suzanne Humphries on Vaccines

[01:11:11] Dr Andrew Wakefield tells his side of the story in the MMR Vaccine causes
Autism debate

[01:25:12] Dr Mercola Interviews Dr Andrew Wakefield on His MMR Study

[01:48:04] Vaccine injuries, Dr. Andrew Moulden, Conférence Liberté de Choix en Santé, Montréal

[12:52] : Tolerance Lost - Dr Andrew Moulden BA, MA, MD, Phd

On Possible Measles Case Detected in Santa Barbara

Posted on January 29 at 9:18 a.m.

For those who prefer videos (though 3 of these 5 are lengthy), Anun Naki just posted the five below, embedded with commentary, among 10+ comments at Noozhawk here:

'Possible Case of Measles Reported in Santa Barbara County Child'
http://www.noozhawk.com/article/santa...

[11:27] Suzanne Humphries on Vaccines

[01:11:11] Dr Andrew Wakefield tells his side of the story in the MMR Vaccine causes Autism debate

[01:25:12] Dr Mercola Interviews Dr Andrew Wakefield on His MMR Study

[01:48:04] Vaccine injuries, Dr. Andrew Moulden, Conférence Liberté de Choix en Santé, Montréal

[12:52] : Tolerance Lost - Dr Andrew Moulden BA, MA, MD, PhD

On S.B. Health Officials Brief Media on Potential Measles Case

Posted on January 28 at 9:38 p.m.

Regarding "keep on posting, no one reads your odious kaka.":

Sadly, this baseless conjecture is also delusional.

The belief that one person can know what an entire group is doing or not doing online is particularly worrisome in this context, considering that many among this group, perhaps even most, are read-only participants and thus are invisible.

On S.B. Health Officials Brief Media on Potential Measles Case

Posted on January 28 at 8:39 p.m.

From the post above:

"[Dr. David Fisk of Sansum Clinic] said….for “herd immunity” to be effective, 95 percent of the members of a community must be vaccinated. (There is some variability in that percent, he added.) Herd immunity helps protect those who are too young to receive vaccines and those who may have health restrictions that prevent their use."

This nonsense about "herd immunity" has been thoroughly debunked.

Vaccines are being forced on the public under the false premise of creating "herd immunity" and the falsehood that non-vaccination is dangerous to the person and those around them.

The assumption that a 95% vaccination rate will eradicate infectious challenges, and that one can supplant the vital role of natural re-exposure with vaccine boosters, with the goal of full control or complete eradication, is a fairy tale without basis in science.

Natural herd immunity does, in fact, exist. But *vaccine induced herd immunity is not the same as disease induced herd immunity.* The science clearly shows that there's a big difference between naturally developed herd immunity and vaccine-induced herd immunity in a population.

“The body defends most efficiently as a result of ongoing re-exposure,” explains Dr. Suzanne Humphries, MD, in her essay:

'Herd Immunity: Flawed Science and Mass Vaccination Failures'
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/herd...

Vaccination disrupts natural immunity and substitutes an inferior, narrower, and shorter-lived protection. And vaccination weakens the immune system in multiple ways; it has become clear that vaccination makes a person more susceptible to disease and to a more serious case of it.

This explains why we are *seeing outbreaks of measles, flu and other diseases in fully vaccinated populations that allegedly should have been protected by so-called "herd immunity"*. Instead the group was more at risk and may have actually contracted the disease from the vaccines.

Until this "herd immunity" nonsense is fully laid to rest, government agencies such as the Santa Barbara County Health Department and local allopaths — depending for their continuing education, at least in part, on pharmaceutical salespersons — will continue to blame unvaccinated people and to impose yet more immune-weakening vaccines on the public that contain neurotoxins, immunotoxins, heavy metals, mutating viruses and various other industrial filth that induce diseases that are increasingly more contagious and virulent.

On S.B. Health Officials Brief Media on Potential Measles Case

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