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Posted on March 12 at 4:08 p.m.

"GENOCIDE CLAIM IS RACIST, DISHONEST, AND DECEITFUL HISTORY

Armenians must face up to their own unspeakable crimes against humanity before any closure can occur. If one is still in doubt, let me refer one to an Armenian source to see photos of Armenian murderers, gun-toting Armenian clergy, their Muslim, mostly Turkish, victims:

Houshamatyan of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation, Centennial, Album-Atlas, Volume I, Epic Battles, 1890-1914 (The Next Day Color Printing, Inc., Glendale, CA, U.S.A., 2006.

The incredible photo on page 185 can be seen here: www.ethocide.com .

This one will make a believer out of you that Armenians are not telling you the whole truth... They never did!

These facts contradict with the embellished and falsified Armenian narrative, which in turn, creates “cognitive dissonance” in Armenian people. Cognitive dissonance is a discomfort caused by holding conflicting ideas, beliefs, and values simultaneously.

In a state of dissonance, people may feel surprise, anxiety, fear, guilt, anger, humiliation, or shame. Modern Psychology informs us that people tend to reduce dissonance by altering existing cognitions, adding new ones to create consistency in their belief system, or alternatively by reducing the importance of any one of the dissonant elements.

This is why Armenians will easily excuse Armenian terrorism, Armenian treason, Armenian revolts, Armenian murder of Muslims, mostly Turks. This is denial of Armenian hate crimes and war crimes in an indirect manner. No matter how one slices it, though, one thing is clear: Armenian took up arms against their own government and Turks defended their country. And none of this can be labeled genocide...

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Posted on February 24 at 1:02 p.m.

1923

"…In some towns containing ten Armenian houses and thirty Turkish houses, it was reported that 40,000 people were killed, about 10,000 women were taken to the harem, and thousands of children left destitute; and the city university destroyed, and the bishop killed. It is a well- known fact that even in the last war the native Christians, despite the Turkish cautions, armed themselves and fought on the side of the Allies. In these conflicts, they were not idle, but they were well supplied with artillery, machine guns and inflicted heavy losses on their enemies…."

Source: Lamsa, George M., a missionary well known for his research on Christianity,
The Secret of the Near East, The Ideal Press, Philadelphia 1923, p 133

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Posted on February 24 at 10:11 a.m.

Volok, genocide is a legal term, defined by 1948 UN convention, that can only be reached by a "competent tribunal" and only after proving "intent". Thees are very specific requirements that have never been met by the baseless Armenian claims. The verdict can only be given by ICJ (International Court of Justice); not by historians, scholars, academicians, diplomats, soldiers, singers, song writers, columnists, priests, community leaders, politicians or others... Only one address can declare genocide: ICJ. There is no court verdict of that kind anywhere, whereas there are verdicts for Holocaust, Rwanda and Srebrenica. Others can be debated under the headings war crimes, hate crimes, wars, etc. That is what we have been saying all along. When we sit down and debate this thing in a civilized manner, bereft of Armenian fanaticism, then you can see that Armenians revolted and Turks defended. Were war crimes committed? Yes, absolutely, but by both sides. Wasn't there a lot of suffering and deaths? Yes, absolutely, but by both sides. Weren't all Armenians moved? No, tens of thousands in Istanbul, the capital of the Ottoman Empire, were not moved at all, because they mostly stayed loyal. Also NOT moved were Armenians of Izmir, Edirne, and many other Western cities of the Empire. Also NOT moved were Armenians of Protestant, Catholic, or Orthodox faith and those artisans, bakers, doctors, and many more professions. Armenians who were a clear and present danger to Ottoman war effort in the East through their treasonous acts were moved, temporarily, hence the term TERESET (Temporary Resettlement.) These people were free to return after the war and some did. But most of those returned started killing Muslims again in the Southy under the French uniforms. When France signed a separate peace with Turkey in 1921, these Armenians left with fear of retaliation by Muslims for the excesses committed by the Armenians. The genocide talk makes angels of Armenians, with absolutely no fault, whereas we all know--by Armenian documents, photos, confessions, narratives and other evidence-- that Armenian revolted, resorted to ethno-religious cleansing, provoking a formidable backlash.

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Posted on February 24 at 8:38 a.m.

So, Volok & Dolphin, you just confessed to the world that it was not Young Turks exterminating poor, starving Armenians one Spring morning in 1915 for no reason after living together in Anatolia for a millennium. You just declared to the world that Armenians actually wanted out and revolted. No shame in that. And the Turks defended their home and unity and there is no shame in that. After all, didn't we do just that in the American Civil War of 1860-1864? This is the simple truth and we have been saying that all along. But the Armenians deceived the world into thinking that Turks had a pre-conceived plan and intent to exterminate all Armenians. That does not hold water. Never did, never will. And even you people confessed to this righ above my message. Thank you for being truthful for once in your lives.

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Posted on February 22 at 8:04 p.m.

Name calling, threats, ridicule, censorship... These are tools the Armenian fantics have used for a hundred years to dupe the people into thinking "poor starving Armenians" killed by Turks... Take a look at this photo: www.ethocide.com and you will know the real story. Ask about the Van Rebellion of 17 April-24 May, 1915... Ask about Armenian agitation, terrorism, revolts, treason, territorial demands... Ask about the Muslim, mostly Turkish, victims of Armenian revolutionaries... You'll get no response from the Armenians... They will deny all... Because if they own up to the truth, then one can no longer talk about genocide... But the game is over. European Court of Human Rights set the record straight for all with its Dec 17, 2013 decision: genocide cannot be proven or compared to Holocaust. These are the facts whether Armenian fanatics or terror-supporters agree or not. Armenians talked for 100 years... Now, it is our turn!

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Posted on February 22 at 4:43 p.m.

Santa Barbarians are fed up with Armenian terrorists. There are two major waves of Armenian terrorism in history. The first one from 1862 to 1922, lasted 50 years, and it bloodied Ottoman lands mostly in Asia. There was a lull for about 50 years and it started again in 1973. Armenian terrorists, unfortunately, selected Santa Barbara for their heinous hate crime. A 78-year-old Armenian man, Yanikian, deceived two young Turkish diplomats with a bogus promise of returning some stolen artwork and shot them point blank in a hotel room in Santa Barbara in 1973--I don't want to name the hotel here in case their business is hurt by that shameless, despicable Armenian terrorism. What did the Armenians do? Declare the cold-blooded murderer a hero and even collected money for his legal defense. Armenians have given Santa Barbara nothing but blood-letting, hate speech, and dastardly crime. Armenian contribution to American seem to have been mostly hate speech, vengeance talk, hate crime, cold-blooded murders, dastardly assassinations (4 in America alone, many more around the globe), bombings, terrorism, lies, and deception. I have yet to read one word of remorse from the Armenian writers. And I am not holding my breath, either.

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Posted on February 21 at 6:21 p.m.

This photo at www.ethocide.com , taken from Houshamatyan published by ARF (Armenian revolutionary Federation( in Armenian in 1990 and in English in 2006, to mark the 100th anniversary of the founding of ARF in Tbilisi (saound familiar?) They were boasting in that book as to how they killed Turks in various "expeditions". They provide ,maps, bios of Armenian terrorists, even "gun toting Armenian priests" in that book. That photo is proudly displayed there on page 186.

So, the Armenian theory that Young Turks one April 24th morning in 1915 tried to commit genocide does not hold water. The name of the book (fasten your seat belts for this one): "Album I - Epic Battles, 1890-1914.

Epic battles? I thought you people claimed that Turks slaughtered all Armenians and then some, which would beg the question where the Armenian writers here came from.

You people must decide whether you waged epic battles with Turks between 1890 and 1914 as ARF boasts or did Turks exterminate all "poor, starving, helpless, unarmed Armenians" all of a sudden in 1915...

By the way, the history of Armenian terrorism does not even start in 1890. There is Hunchaks (1887), Armenakan *1882) and more. Armenian historian Nalbandian puts the start of Armenian terrorism at 1862. Please be informed.

"Civil War within a world war" is also used by Prof. Justin McCarthy. I am not the inventor, which is why I put in quotations.

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Posted on February 21 at 2:19 p.m.

Take a look at this photo: www.ethocide.com . That single frame blows all Armenian arguments out of the water: Armenian cadets at a military academy, proudly brandishing to the camera their Russian-made brand new "Mosin" weapons, in Bulgaria in 1906. They don;t look like poor, starving Armenians, do they? And as far removed from 1915 as 1906? A military academy? Hardly the traits for a peaceful, loyal community, wouldn't you say? The fact is Armenians took up arms against their own government and Turks defended their home. Both sides suffered terribly. The facts are there for dispassionate, fair minds. The rest is "Hye hype."

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Posted on February 21 at 1:22 p.m.

Armenian propaganda, hearsay and forgeries have run their course. The game is over. It was a "inter-communal warfare between Christian and Muslim iregulars", as 69 historians and scholars declared in a signed, public statement published in New York Times on May 19, 1985. It was a "civil war within a world war" ... It was wartime tragedy where all sides suffered, not just Armenians... that It was "Turkish-Armenian conflict"... But not genocide, not even close.

It is time for a sensible dialogue now; no more name calling, deception, or lies...

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Posted on February 21 at 1:07 p.m.

Excellent editorial, thank you!

It is now firmly established by none other than the mighty supreme court of Europe, namely the European Court of Human Rights, ECHR, in its December 17, 2013 verdict, that the events of 1915 cannot be proven to be genocide or compared to Jewish Holocaust. What’s more, silencing contra-genocide views is a direct violation of the human rights, freedom of thought, expression, and speech–a stance contra-genocide scholars and writers were advocating all along. Armenians who still stubbornly and senselessly demand that their long discredited political political claim of genocide be recognized as the sole truth and doubters be damned, are clearly committing the crime of trampling their freedom of speech.

Now, the Turkish side of the story, long dismissed, ignored, and/or censored, will finally be heard. Armenian agitation, propaganda, insurgency, deception, terrorism, treason, revolts, territorial demands, and the resulting Muslim, mostly Turkish, suffering and losses, all meticulously documented with rock solid historical evidence, will be included in the debate for a balanced treatment of the Turkish-Armenian conflict. Armenian propaganda, hearsay and forgeries have run their course. The game is over.

All this is good, as it can now be expected to have a civilized dialogue and reasoned debate which, in turn, may finally produce closure based on the concepts of “shared responsibility,” “shared pain,” and “fair memory”.

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