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Posted on January 19 at 3:22 p.m.
Loony cute graphic, cite sources please. Otherwise like all your others stuff it is just fiction. But then again why worry about facts.
On Tacadena Family Files $10 Million Wrongful Death Claim
Posted on January 11 at 9:11 p.m.
How long should they wait with neighbors out of their homes in the cold? 8 hours, 12 hours, 1 day, 7 days? What is your magic number?
The article said they arrived at 6:15 pm and called everyone out. They tried tear gas at 5 hours, not breaching. The photo of the suspect says that the police were entering at 1245am. 6 1/2 hours after they first ordered him out.
If they waited longer wouldn't the house have filled up with more gas and eventually explode? Wouldn't your idea, even knowing what the article states, be the wrong thing to do? Or do you think the exploding fire ball would just be contained to his house? How should they have dealt with the gas filling the house, just wait it out and see what happens?
So how long should they have waited? If you were his neighbor evacuated from your home would you feel the same way? I challenge you to go to a park and sit there for 6 1/2 hours, then come back and tell me that wasnt much time.
You assume that the negotiators didnt try and talk to him or keep him talking, why? It doesnt say that in the story. When I read the story I assumed they tried and he refused to talk or told them to go away and he wasn't giving up. They did something dor 6 1/2 hours. But maybe I am wrong.
On Bath Street Standoff Ends Relatively Peacefully
Posted on January 11 at 12:06 p.m.
I love people like whatsinsb... They take their Movie/TV knowledge and put it to good use.
I think you are off on your times and then make assumptions. I would suggest you reread the article.
Posted on January 9 at 9:14 p.m.
Loony you have posted nothing relevant about the DA or our local police.
Your examples are as relevant as me saying that the government once supported slavery so SBPD is racist. See a connection?
Kind of sounds far flung huh? That is the way I read your posts. Now if you were to say you don't trust the cops in city XYZ and post an article about news that is relevant to that XYZ city I would say you were cooking with gas.
Blind fear based on nothing more than imagination is like a child afraid of the dark because there are monsters in movies. Adults should not function this way.
Posted on January 9 at 9:05 p.m.
They didn't shoot him because they were afraid JohnLocke would compare them to NYPD again.
Posted on January 9 at 7:07 a.m.
"Ya the government has an impeccable record of accurately investigating itself." - Opinion
Present a fact were the current DA's office has been found corrupt please. Wide sweeping statements presented without factual basis is just opinion.
Posted on January 8 at 7:06 p.m.
No loon it is actually fact. Read the investigation conducted by the DA office.
Posted on January 8 at 1:58 p.m.
Loon and JL I knew neither of you would answer my question.
JL using your statement then in 2011 SBPD had no officer shootings. That is 100% fewer then NYPD. So what is your point? NYPD should learn from SBPD? Are you not catching on? I provide links to back up my statements to prove I am not manufacturing statements like you and loon do. You spew opinion masquerading as fact and then becomes hurt when people call you on it. You are entitled to your OPINION, that is what is great about this country. But I am also entitled to disagree with you and point out your errors. Which is what i continue to do.
This article that we are commenting on is about an SBPD shooting. the fact that your only supporter is another cop hater should clue you in that you are a minority. If you are trying to sway my opinion then I would suggest you state facts with verifiable resources. Otherwise your rants are just a waste of your time. But you have been doing it since the '70s (according to you) so at least you are persistent. How much change have you brought about in the past 40 years?
Posted on January 8 at 9:14 a.m.
In New York City in 1971 police shot 314 people. In 2010, NYPD shot 24. That is a reduction of 92.33% in police shooting, not figuring per capita which would only greater increase that percentage.
Here is the source of my info (unlike JL who states just Google it)
It also states the NY is the safest big city for officer shooting, probably why JL used it in his skewed comparison.
Kind of deflates people arguements on the increase of cop shootings. But then again I use this as a point to show how statistics can be skewed to support anyones opinion. I think cop-haters like JL and loon have lost focus due to their hatred.
JjL and Loon answer this question please, based on what the Indy has published do you personally think that THIS shooting for which this article is written was not justified?
I am thinking you won't answer in a yes or no, but try and drag a story about a cop in South Africa that did something wrong.
Posted on January 7 at 2:09 a.m.
When people change their statements to suit their opinion when we debate it makes it obvious that they where just spewing opinion in the first place. People tend to get frustrate with made up points masquerading as fact.
That is why the majority of posts are, as you put it, "defending" me. JL cited an NYPD number in 2011. I responded that SBPD had no shootings in 2011 and disproved his point. A statistical analysis of something like this, police shootings, is only relevent, as looked at from a wide amount of data. You would also need to take other factors into account to. As you know loon statistics can be skewed. Are we comparing apples to apples here? Does the fact that New York has less guns per capita then California effect the numbers? If SB only killed one person a year but each one of those shooing were not justifiable be ok with you I statistically the number was lower per capita? Shouldn't the numbers not matter as much as each individual case be looked at for its own merit? Like this case. There was mental I'll knife welding guy that witnesses saw go towards the cop. JP assumed that they should shoot the gun out of his hand. This is flawed logic and shows a misunderstanding of how the real world operates.