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Posted on January 8 at 7:06 p.m.
No loon it is actually fact. Read the investigation conducted by the DA office.
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Posted on January 8 at 1:58 p.m.
Loon and JL I knew neither of you would answer my question.
JL using your statement then in 2011 SBPD had no officer shootings. That is 100% fewer then NYPD. So what is your point? NYPD should learn from SBPD? Are you not catching on? I provide links to back up my statements to prove I am not manufacturing statements like you and loon do. You spew opinion masquerading as fact and then becomes hurt when people call you on it. You are entitled to your OPINION, that is what is great about this country. But I am also entitled to disagree with you and point out your errors. Which is what i continue to do.
This article that we are commenting on is about an SBPD shooting. the fact that your only supporter is another cop hater should clue you in that you are a minority. If you are trying to sway my opinion then I would suggest you state facts with verifiable resources. Otherwise your rants are just a waste of your time. But you have been doing it since the '70s (according to you) so at least you are persistent. How much change have you brought about in the past 40 years?
Posted on January 8 at 9:14 a.m.
In New York City in 1971 police shot 314 people. In 2010, NYPD shot 24. That is a reduction of 92.33% in police shooting, not figuring per capita which would only greater increase that percentage.
Here is the source of my info (unlike JL who states just Google it)
It also states the NY is the safest big city for officer shooting, probably why JL used it in his skewed comparison.
Kind of deflates people arguements on the increase of cop shootings. But then again I use this as a point to show how statistics can be skewed to support anyones opinion. I think cop-haters like JL and loon have lost focus due to their hatred.
JjL and Loon answer this question please, based on what the Indy has published do you personally think that THIS shooting for which this article is written was not justified?
I am thinking you won't answer in a yes or no, but try and drag a story about a cop in South Africa that did something wrong.
Posted on January 7 at 2:09 a.m.
When people change their statements to suit their opinion when we debate it makes it obvious that they where just spewing opinion in the first place. People tend to get frustrate with made up points masquerading as fact.
That is why the majority of posts are, as you put it, "defending" me. JL cited an NYPD number in 2011. I responded that SBPD had no shootings in 2011 and disproved his point. A statistical analysis of something like this, police shootings, is only relevent, as looked at from a wide amount of data. You would also need to take other factors into account to. As you know loon statistics can be skewed. Are we comparing apples to apples here? Does the fact that New York has less guns per capita then California effect the numbers? If SB only killed one person a year but each one of those shooing were not justifiable be ok with you I statistically the number was lower per capita? Shouldn't the numbers not matter as much as each individual case be looked at for its own merit? Like this case. There was mental I'll knife welding guy that witnesses saw go towards the cop. JP assumed that they should shoot the gun out of his hand. This is flawed logic and shows a misunderstanding of how the real world operates.
Posted on January 6 at 4:06 p.m.
John you first said NYPD vs SBPD when i proved you wrong you had to include all of SBcounty and i still proved you wrong. Your ad homeniem attacks on me are just that,because you are unable to debate real facts.
Back up your statements with facts like I have disproved yours before, otherwise they are just your opinion. Case closed JL.
Start with the level of officer invovled shootings is growing, state number and cite source. I bet you wont and cant. You will retort Google it yourself. Here is a clue JL i have and you are wrong. But theahain what does statstics have to do witht this shooting of a mentally deranged man armed with a knife?
Please answer the questions, you are good at avoiding them.
Posted on January 6 at 2:21 p.m.
Loon North Carolina is a couple of thousand miles away. Please state how any information you posted about this story is about the shooting in Santa Barbara. Are you saying that Santa Barbara PD is responsible for the shooting in NC? Wow, maybe SBPD should be on the hook for Guantanamo too and problems in the middle east. I say we blame them for everything. I once heard a cop in NYPD (jl favorite cite source without any real info) jaywalked. Bet SBPD is to blame for that one too.
JohnLocke, did you really read the info? Doubt it. Otherwise you would stop your rant about shooting to kill and shooting things out of people's hands.
Posted on January 6 at 2:41 a.m.
JohnLocke I have posted this before to educate you. I guess you didn't look at it. But since you asked here is the answer to your question above. Feel free to enlighten yourself on a bad assumption you had.
Posted on January 4 at 8:30 a.m.
John you keep on with your rant about a high officer involved shootings here when I proved you wrong! Repeating false fact over and over doesn't make it true.
Get over yourself you were wrong on that and didnt prove anything as i clearly showed you on past comments. Yet you champion that mid-information and say people can Google it. Obviously you hate cops and ignore the eye witness statement and the video from across the street that shows this mentally disturbed drug addict came at the cop with a knife. Think about the poor cop and his family that have to read these rants by people like you. He did nothing wrong but an Internet cowboy who has no training and no fear of spewing off about mis information does to them. You need to chill out and realize you are not getting any support from anyone else except your cop hating buddy loony.
Posted on January 3 at 7:40 a.m.
Ambulance chasing lawyers and down and out families make wicked combinations. I agree with Bill on this one. I hope the city fights this to the end. Don't give these wide eyed lawyers who see deep pockets and file these frivolous lawsuits anything.
Posted on December 22 at 4:51 p.m.
JohnLocke you would benefit by watching this video
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