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Posted on December 18 at 2:36 p.m.
This is what happens when schizos walk around with knifes... They kill random people.
Why didn't Frank help his brother before this tradegy happen? If they cared so much for him why didnt they help him with his meth addiction and mental problems?
On Fatal Police Shooting Deemed 'Justifiable Homicide'
Posted on December 14 at 8:36 a.m.
"Compare our level of officer-involved shootings (per capita) with NYC. You will shocked, amazed, and disgusted with our local PD."
JohnLocke wrote on December 8th
By local "PD" I assume you mean SBPD. SBPD had 0 officer shootings in 2011. Looks like your analysis is off Johnny. I know you hate the cops but changing your argument to fit your outlandish statements speaks volume. Insulting me or anyone that disagrees with you just proves that your point is baseless.
Loonpt your snippets just tell one side of the story. I Googled some of your posts, you fail to mention that those people were doing more then what you cut and pasted. Like the guy who attacked the cop with a baton or the "mother" who hit the cop with her car. Nice try but much like John bending facts to prove a point only makes your point look worthless.
On Man Shot by Police at San Andres Street Home
Posted on December 14 at 8:27 a.m.
Nope loonpt Dept of Homeland is not involved
And the checkpoints were ruled constitutional by the supreme court, read the links before you post. Even the dui lawyers say they are legal here
On Authorities Announce Annual DUI Crackdown
Posted on December 13 at 9:07 p.m.
I prefer to listen to scientists insted of lawyers.
Posted on December 10 at 12:20 p.m.
John these are all different agencies you mention. You are comparing them to a large east coast city police agency and fail to draw any corealation to their numbers. I am not hiding, I have refuted your rehetoric every step of the way. Your post seems nonsensical.
Your last sentence is the most incredulous. You have offered no proof that any shooting was illegal except for the preceved fact that per captia "two" shootings here in SB are more than NYPD. Do you not see the faulty train of thought here? State facts, what about any of the 7 shooting that you champion as proof were illegal? Use sources, please convince me. The mere inference that multiple shootings by different people is somehow illegal does not make sense. It is a far-flung allegation.
Now you're saying there is 500,000 people in Santa Barbara County instead of 300,000 as you mentioned before. Numbers don't change John. You used your 300,000 number to base your per capita information off. Now that changes too. Per Google it is 431,000.
Posted on December 10 at 6:18 a.m.
So I found JohnLocke's "source" for his 2012 "data"
Nice try John... But all 7 shooting were in North county. Either Santa Maria, Lompoc, or rural area involving CHP, SDSO, or Santa Maria PD. Way to skew information.
This article is about South County.... SBPD, they had 0 shootings in 2012.
Posted on December 10 at 6:07 a.m.
Thanks loonpt but no. What I am looking for is source for the data. Not "we had 7", where is he getting that number. i could make up a number too. He said he found a source, please post the source.
Posted on December 9 at 11:05 p.m.
JohnLocke wrote on 12-9-2013 at 0951 am
"@deniseL: I don't make statements without backup data."
John I am merely asking you for the "backup data" that you claim to have. Now it seems you don't have it. Your defensiveness speaks volumes.
Your argument is that SB county has more shooting per capita than NYC police. While nothing you have posted backs up this claim when asked you attack the person questioning you.
What conclusions are you drawing from your argument? That by the mere fact that SB county has more shootings that they are illegal? While you haven't even proven that you champion that as a fact.
I would suggest you focus on each shooting and to its merits. I doubt the police, sheriff, or CHP put caps on the amount of officer involved shooting and then restricts them from protecting people. If we had crazed gun toting maniacs running around SB would you prefer that they were not dealt with accordingly because they have to shoot less people?
You assertion is unsubstantiated by "data" you claim to have but can not reference. When you are questioned about it you attack me. Sorry but I don't agree with you. I would prefer our LE to not be handcuffed in protecting us by unrealistic claims by a keyboard cowboy.
Posted on December 9 at 4 p.m.
Ok JohnLocke how many cop shootings were there in SB county in 2011 then? Since that is the comparable year you are using for NYC. And what are the numbers for the past 10 years? If you have ever taken a statistics class you would know narrowing your scope of data to such a narrow range is manipulating data to help your point. All be it not correct....
Posted on December 8 at 11:06 a.m.
What are the numbers JohnLocke? Or are you just alluding to knowing when you don't?