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Posted on January 22 at 5:03 p.m.
lol, blah, first you give an argument that is pointless as best and useless for the most part, then you tell me not to make those type of arguments:
"Hey, keyboard anarchist, let Pardall's buddy come over to YOUR pad & do his gig with the bugle! We'll see how fast your paranoid driven conspiracy theory self lasts.All your "arguments" are pointless at best, useless for the most part and baseless by all accounts."
K, I'll repeat.."I think it's pretty comical that you can't see how my solution is vastly superior to yours by putting people who want quiet together and to put people who want parties together - and a free market can handle it all without any central planning. You want enforcement, which means 20 years from now there will be a new batch of college students moving in and there will still be pissed off neighbors and we will still need enforcement. My solution solves the problem as soon as there is escrow."
You want to fight, fight, fight an upstream, uphill battle that you will never, ever win. To me, that is irrational. I have a solution that will benefit everybody, allow those who want to party to do so and let those who want quiet to have quiet.
If smoking pot makes people so silly, why is it that I have the most logical and rational solution that is actually workable?
On City College's Fence-Mending Menu
Posted on January 22 at 4:54 p.m.
Do you think these people doing bad things justifies locking up innocent non-violent people?
On Granny’s Field Murder Defendants Take Deal
Posted on January 22 at 4:45 p.m.
Hmm I'm a Republican and I've been wanting to close Gitmo since before it opened.....STRIKE THAT..... I would have opened Gitmo and put Bush, Cheney and at least half of Bush's cabinet in there for helping orchestrate the 9/11 attacks and the wars and civil liberties violations that followed.
On Ganging Up on Gun Violence
Posted on January 22 at 4:40 p.m.
I had Mexican neighbors once who liked to blast mariachi music which had a musical structure similar to polka. If it bothered me, I would have asked them to turn it down or I would have moved. I probably would have just moved. But I don't let minor things get to me, so I just let them listen to their music.
People get up and leave all the time for a multitude of reasons..and again, this is probably less than 1% of the neighborhoods who have this problem, and since the majority of people who live there are students the amount of people who are affected by this is probably .0001% of the population or something. We are making this huge deal and creating all these laws for a very small minority who could just move to a quieter part of town so we don't have to deal with their whining.
It's ultimately good for society for people to be more mobile and dynamic so that neighborhoods can grow and change with the times. With everything strictly regulated it is difficult for neighborhoods and towns to change in ways in which are much needed.
If an old person wanted to move because of the noise, they should talk to the CC and maybe get some student volunteers to help them with their move. I hate to see people struggle when there are others willing to help.
I think it's pretty comical that you can't see how my solution is vastly superior to yours by putting people who want quiet together and to put people who want parties together - and a free market can handle it all without any central planning. You want enforcement, which means 20 years from now there will be a new batch of college students moving in and there will still be pissed off neighbors and we will still need enforcement. My solution solves the problem as soon as there is escrow.
Posted on January 22 at 4:05 p.m.
I thought the ammosexuals were the ones who liked hiring other people with guns to take them away from peaceful citizens.
Posted on January 22 at 3:41 p.m.
I mean, I hate repeating myself, and I know that tends to happen when people either don't read my posts or have poor reading comprehension, but I just stated that at least 95%+ of the neighborhoods in town are ALREADY quiet neighborhoods. In fact, I would venture to say that it is closer to 99%+. That is with minimal to zero law enforcement...And there are still people who can't stop whining and feel entitled to have 100% of the neighborhoods be quiet.
Just look at a map some time and start counting how many blocks are in SB and Goleta. There are like 3 blocks around city college with dense student housing and a couple more over on the west side, then you have literally thousands and thousands of blocks that are family neighborhoods and are generally very quiet. Isla Vista contains its parties naturally as well, but lately the cops have been really strict about Del Playa parties spreading them back to the frats and mid-town.. Students and others used to be able to pick areas of town that were more quiet and the parties were largely focused around 6600 Del Playa and now it is becoming more difficult to do that because the cops spread the parties all over town.
Once again, we see enforcement of these things ends up making the problem worse by making people who live in the middle of dense college housing feel entitled to live in a quiet neighborhood and pushing people who party out into quieter areas with less enforcement.
Posted on January 22 at 3:21 p.m.
Or you could read my post again and see what I actually said should happen.
Posted on January 22 at 3:09 p.m.
I'll take that over Botany's brand of tyranny any day.. It's called ear plugs. And I've been to plenty of music festivals that bump the bass 24 hours a day for days on end. And your friend would probably get tired of having to wake up that early and come to my house day after day anyway, I doubt it would last very long. I'm more concerned about real, longterm problems, not manufactured fake problems.
If you recall, I did say that "people should be neighborly and considerate on their own terms". Would your friend be playing his bugle because he doesn't like my political ideology? Although I like loud music I'm actually a relatively quiet person, never had a noise complaint from my neighbors.. but I don't like to stomp on other people's rights or squash other people's good times. It would make me feel really guilty and entitled.
Posted on January 22 at 2:44 p.m.
Why shouldn't young people party and be noisy at night? It's a natural phenomenon that has happened throughout history and is likely related to hormones. When people are most fertile they tend to have more energy at night to expend...fertilizing..so to speak. College campuses and the immediate surrounding areas are perfect places to allow younger people to socialize and allowing them to do so moves others who don't like it out through a natural process, moves more like minded people in which helps prevent the younger people from moving into quieter neighborhoods. All of this "enforcement" you support stifles this important process. Market forces are amazing at resolving conflicts if you let them work.
So can you admit "being quiet at night" is really just an arbitrary personal belief of yours with no basis in science or anything for that matter? Do you wish to enforce all of your personal beliefs on others through violent force? Where does it end?
For the record, I have less of a problem with property owners enforcing noise ordinances on their property. I have more of a problem with police enforcing noise ordinances on property owners.
Yes, people should be neighborly and considerate on their own terms, but I don't see why people should have any expectations of what other people do on their property. If you like it quiet, move to a quiet neighborhood, not a college neighborhood. There are a lot of people who like things quiet and there are a lot of quiet neighborhoods that require no police enforcement, it's a group of people coming together voluntarily to be quiet at night.
I think it is ridiculous that people who choose to live next to a city college would not expect late night partying, especially on the weekends. It does in fact require an attitude of entitlement. People feel entitled to a quiet neighborhood while living amongst thousands of people, particularly young people. Ridiculous. You require other people act a certain way on their own property? That is entitlement. You think EVERY neighborhood should be quiet at night? That is entitlement. The only thing you are entitled to do is move to a quiet neighborhood, which lucky for you is at least approximately 95%+ of the neighborhoods in town.
Posted on January 22 at 1:18 p.m.
"the press should stop letting him get exposure."
But that would ruin the whole plan..