Comments by pointssouth
Page 1 of 5 | Next
0 of 3 people thought this was a good comment.
Posted on November 1 at 5:26 p.m.
In terms of your statement to me I said, "I" meaning myself personally do not give the Indpendent a pass for bad journalism or flaunting the rules simply because its not as bad or as flagrant a offender as the SBNP. I am referring to staff adopting that posture in print of a moral highground when referring to others "journalistic sins". I would like to see better adherence and quality from both publications. Here is a few items for your consideration:
The SPJ's code of ethics states:
"Diligently seek out subjects of news stories to give them the opportunity to respond to allegations of wrongdoing" The KEYT bashing story that ran after the fires about residents being upset Palmenteri was doing liveshots from their house. Yes the Independent retracted/clarified it after the fact but not with the same prominent placement it gave the story initially. I find it impossible to believe that no one at the Indy had JP's or other staffers cellphones and couldnt have just called him, or that the article even went to print without a editor verifying the original article.
Another specific of their code of ethics: "Journalists should:
-Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived.
-Remain free of associations and activities that may compromise integrity or damage credibility.
-Refuse gifts, favors, fees, free travel and special treatment, and shun secondary employment, political involvement, public office and service in community organizations if they compromise journalistic integrity."
It does not seem the has Indy been vigilant about enforcing those rules among staff. They even had (recent past tense at this time) a writer on the news side who has been active in local campaigns and who the Independent itself described as "half of a activist power couple". Refer to the above three points...not adhering to those is just not done by papers who subscribe to the ethical guidelines, the AP has gone so far as to tell its people not to tweet, or post facebook personal comments about politics and other such subjects.
The Poodle which I enjoy, as it always seems to be a well sourced, not meanspirited column is not so great when its reporting straight news as the barking tends to carry over. Is he a columnist or a reporter? If there was such moral outrage that Travis could straddle the line you would think the Independent wouldnt cross that or would at least clearly identify the difference? And Nick isnt the only one where barking can make it into what should be a straight news story. (cont)
0 of 2 people thought this was a good comment.
Posted on November 1 at 5:23 p.m.
I dont agree with Revisionists above's comments on the first story as the article was clearly coverage of the book that was being published, and therefore the emphasis should be on that not on the wider debate about immigration.
The second article though the revisionist does makes a valid point about attributing behavior not in evidence. That line should have either been backed up or edited out. While I would tend to disagree on Revisionists point of view in many of their postings, I do think its a valid criticism of bad writing in the second instance.
I'm surprised Webadmin couldnt acknowledge that was a poorly written choice, choosing instead to attack the commenter reminding one of Travis perhaps with the "pretty sure you have their number" dig. Whether or not you you have their number or they proved their point to your satisfaction perhaps you should consider and be concerned by the fact that line was included in the story in the first place. While I agree it would be erroneous to imply the comment was a attack on Anglos, IT DID however IMPLY that those who had withdrawn their children did so for racist reasons whatever race, color, or creed the nearby parents are.
0 of 5 people thought this was a good comment.
Posted on November 1 at 10:35 a.m.
Webadmin: I know all about the lines of journalism and could point out examples of the straight reporting and opinion mixing at the Independent. You also should consider the code of ethics put forth by the Society of Professional Journalists as a useful tool.
I in know way consider the Independent to be as bad as the News Press, but I also won't give you a pass just because you have been the opposition to the News Press. The situation at the SBNP is sad because it had some very talented writers and used to be a much better publication, while its good Travis is gone I am dubious about how much real change it will bring.
5 of 11 people thought this was a good comment.
Posted on October 31 at 5:56 p.m.
I am glad to see Travis go and sorry to see what has happened to the News Press. I also get a little disturbed everytime I see people at the Indy get on a moral high horse about the News Press over "committing the journalistic sin of mixing the opinion side of the paper with news".
There's a lot of reasons to dislike Wendy and the going ons at the NewsPress, but people in glass houses like those who work at the Independent should be careful about which stones they throw.
1 of 1 people thought this was a good comment.
Posted on October 23 at 10:23 p.m.
PS I also think district elections would be healthy as well
1 of 1 people thought this was a good comment.
Posted on October 23 at 10:22 p.m.
I dont like Van Wolfswinkels cash coming into this race, but I also dont appreciate union cash from those who council members have to approve raises for. Its been the unions for years who wielded the cash and now we have some part time resident from Texas doing it the system is broken we need campaign finance reform.
Don Mcdermott has no credibility he is like Mccarthy during the Red Scare except instead of Communists he see Republicans under every bedsheet. Get some perspective Don the endless conspiracy theory wears thin.
Posted on October 15 at 11:13 a.m.
It appears she sent the email out through the Democratic Party Edhat had a copy a few days ago. It was just a standard email sent by campaigns/parties and then the city downplayed what she had said from article in the Daily Sound afterwards.
Posted on October 5 at 9:50 p.m.
What a great story to hear, and nice to learn of all the neighborhood involvement in this effort as well as the leadership of Liz La Rovere.
On Up the Creek
1 of 2 people thought this was a good comment.
Posted on October 5 at 7:33 p.m.
So would most of the people upset with the money involved in the race be so terribly offended if it went to their chosen candidate? Magic 8 ball says no
Page 1 of 5 | Next
Previous Month
0 of 4 people thought this was a good comment.
Posted on November 1 at 5:27 p.m.
(cont)
I like the Independent, sometimes there are some real home runs, not just in story choice but in the overall writing, and quite a few fine columnists at the paper. However there seems to be a disregard at times for the basic ethical standards which is why it would seem hypocritical to attack the News Press on those grounds (there are lots of other reasons to attack them). I would hope the News Press improves, and while the Indy has far less improvement it would be nice to see some closer adherence to the rules of journalism rather than just point out the News Press's failings.
On Travis Armstrong Is Outta There