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Posted on June 10 at 7:18 p.m.

That is a scam post. Quoting the false rumor, and not the conclusion that is was false.

"The meme said "there are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the U.K.," compared to "466 violent crimes per 100,000" in the United States. Our preliminary attempt to make an apples-to-apples comparison shows a much smaller difference in violent crime rates between the two countries, but criminologists say differences in how the statistics are collected make it impossible to produce a truly valid comparison. We rate the claim False."

On Suicidal Man Arrested after Standoff

Posted on June 6 at 2:56 p.m.

nativegeo - there is one striking thing that has not been raised about this spill. Can you think of what it is. Here is a clue - it is what you are doing with everything you post about this spill.

Political affiliation of the companies involved. If you look at his chart of profession by political affiliation, you will see that the affiliation of most people in the oil industry, is Republican.
http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_pr...

I do not remember political affiliation being brought up with respect to the BP spill, the Exxon Valdez, and this spill.

What is of most concern is bipartisan support for measures to prevent this from happening again.

You are trying to further divide/polarize based on a party affiliation. Please stop. That is not the point.

On Political Reaction to Refugio Oil Spill Continues

Posted on June 5 at 3:25 p.m.

The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) has determined that benzene causes cancer in humans.

Benzene works by causing cells not to work correctly. For example, it can cause bone marrow not to produce enough red blood cells, which can lead to anemia. Also, it can damage the immune system by changing blood levels of antibodies and causing the loss of white blood cells.
The seriousness of poisoning caused by benzene depends on the amount, route, and length of time of exposure, as well as the age and preexisting medical condition of the exposed person.
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/benzene/b...

Acute leukemia due to chronic exposure to benzene
http://www.amjmed.com/article/0002-93...

BTEX are naturally‐occurring compounds in crude oil. Benzene for example is found at levels up to 4 g/L in crude petroleum, and can be found in sea water (0.8 ppb) in the vicinity of natural gas and petroleum deposits (IPCS 1993).
Other natural sources of BTEX compounds include gas emissions from volcanoes and forest fires (IPCS 1985, 1993,1996, 1997; ATSDR 2007a).
https://www.ehp.qld.gov.au/management...

Amount of benzene from COP
http://www.etc-cte.ec.gc.ca/databases...

0.8 parts per billion for natural seeps - hardly dangerous exposure.

However, oil in water from a spill is another story - hence the closure of beaches and sea around the spill. Combined with that and exposure to benzene at higher levels than allowed today for auto use, and other sources, could be enough to cause cancer. I read somewhere that that is why there are no longer gas station attendants. Too much exposure to cancer-causing substances.

Some comments here fall under the triple I - ignorant, insane, idiotic. Some people seem to find it a sport to mock and smear others. Their words mock themselves.

On Soap and Oil

Posted on June 4 at 7:01 p.m.

The impact of man on the planet is huge, complex, and covers just about every function humans undertake. The problem is not going to be solved overnight. It is going to be done by small steps here, small steps there - just as the destructive products crept up on us in small steps here, and small steps there.

Oil ALONE is not the solution; solar ALONE is not the solution; any energy source ALONE is not the solution. But a combination can lower the overall impact.

All energy sources should be used responsibly and with care. Oil should look after their pipes and follow safety procedures. Solar should make its production as clean as possible. Wind should limit the harm to birds. Large skyscrapers should make their windows obvious to flying birds. Home owners, building owners should find alternatives to pesticides, rodenticides, etc. People should not dump chemicals into any water, including down the drain in their homes. People should stop tossing garbage from their car windows, into creeks, rivers and the ocean. It goes on and on .....

It just takes PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to act in the least harmful manner possible, and to understand what is harmful and what is not.

There are many people who are trying to lower their "harm" footprint. That is the only way we can solve this issue.

On Oil and Water Don’t Mix

Posted on June 4 at 6:44 p.m.

EPA does not administer/oversee etc oil pipelines. It is PHMSA

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
PIPELINE AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS SAFETY ADMINISTRATION

http://www.phmsa.dot.gov/

http://www.phmsa.dot.gov/pv_obj_cache...

As for impact on drinking water, no "widespread" impact is probably true. However, until testing in CA is complete, nobody, either pro or against can say anything definitively.

On Red Dogs in the Sunset

Posted on June 4 at 6:35 p.m.

So you are saying all greentards are asleep. Irony much?

On Early Pipeline Finding Names Corrosion Likely Culprit

Posted on June 4 at 12:39 p.m.

"There are other alternatives, of course: The U.S. Department of the Interior this month released a strategy to mitigate the impact of development projects, including wind farms, on birds and other wildlife. The plan focuses on putting windmills in places where they'll make the least impact, rather than trying to protect birds after the fact.

Ultimately, though, no technology is without costs—and the advantages of renewable wind power over, say, coal-fired power plants may outweigh their impact on bird species. "Saying wind power can only be green if there are no impacts is like saying medicine can only be effective if it has no side effects," Anderson says. "At some point, we need to put the benefits and risks into context."

Oklahoma State's Loss, for example, notes that American homes and office buildings are responsible for hundreds of millions of dead birds per year, many times more than windmills. And researchers recently estimated that house cats kill well over a billion birds in the United States annually. "Comparing our numbers to total bird numbers, they might seem small, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't focus on local impacts on specific species, especially long-lived species like raptors or waterbirds," Loss says."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/ne...

Again, and again, while windmills kill birds, birds are killed in larger amounts by other human activities. At least in the case of windmills, they are making improvements to limit bird loss.

Explain how homes and office buildings and pet owners are trying to limit the deaths of birds, where there are far higher bird deaths.

On What Will the Refugio Oil Spill Kill?

Posted on June 4 at 12:17 p.m.

I guess the truth hurts with respect to the shut-off valves.

Yet to be investigated, what happened between May 5 and before May 19, when the corrosion had been found?

And it is very easy to make claims of threats, without having to back them up?

On Red Dogs in the Sunset

Posted on June 3 at 11:54 p.m.

The OP does not cover all the facts that can be found in this report. (Where was the link in the OP?)

http://www.phmsa.dot.gov/pv_obj_cache...

Note this paragraph:
The results of Plains' May 5, 2015 In-Line Inspection (ILl) survey revealed four areas on the Affected Pipeline with pipe anomalies requiring immediate investigation and remediation in accordance with 49 CFR § 195.452(h) or Plains' own criteria for investigation under its integrity management plan. Examination and measurements of three of these areas indicated extensive external corrosion, primarily on the bottom quadrant of the pipe. The deepest metal loss at each area, as measured by Plains nondestructive testing contractors, ranged between 54 and 74% of the original pipe wall thickness. The anomalies were not limited to being near the girth welds, but also occurred at other locations along the length of the pipe. The fourth area to be investigated has not yet been completed.

--- "extensive external corrosion, primarily on the bottom quadrant of the pipe". Is that corrosion from the soil, water leaks or what?

--- "The results of Plains' May 5, 2015 In-Line Inspection (ILl) survey revealed four areas on the Affected Pipeline with pipe anomalies requiring immediate investigation and remediation." That means the results from the May inspection required IMMEDIATE investigation and remediation.

There is more - it is worth reading the whole report. However, the spill could probably have been prevented if action had been taken after the May 5 inspection - after all, that is what inspections are for. Someone dropped the ball.

On Early Pipeline Finding Names Corrosion Likely Culprit

Posted on June 3 at 12:12 a.m.

I don't know what you are responding to, and I think characterizing others is a cheap way of making a point, especially when it is false.

I am aware that there has to be a balance between maintaining solvency for the country and monitoring the actions of oil companies. And yes there are good and bad in each group. You will find that I have frequently criticized generalizations, group smearing, and advocated judging the individual and not the group.

You have committed a group stereotype yourself in stating "you and your ilk" - and have frequently done so when talking about liberals, leftists, etc. That is hypocrisy.

There are irresponsible corporations all over the world, and the damage that has been done is horrendous. The general attitude of "we the people" is that it is too much. And that sentiment is growing daily.

I also do not think Obama is perfect. On average he is far better then a McCain or Romney would have been, but I do not like Shell drilling in the Arctic, and I do not like what McCain and Flake snuck into the defense bill without a vote. They are going to allow a mile wide, 1000 ft deep crater to replace rare Arizona riparian habitat, by a foreign company. If this is not reversed I will not be happy about it or Obama either.


On The Mysterious Case of the Automatic Shutoff Valve

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