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Posted on May 23 at 5:28 p.m.

Eckermann - Trains make more sense. I knew tank cars aren't currently DOT compliant, resulting in explosions, but I'm finding out that there are a lot of foxes watching henhouses in the industry, and also some Bush appointees to companies providing industry financing.
http://www.crompion.com/news/Bloomber...

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Posted on May 22 at 3:57 p.m.

z28racergirl - "14noscams - 105,000 gallons has been reported as the leak"

And 21,000 gallons is the quantity reported to have reached the beach from the breach in the onshore pipeline.

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Posted on May 22 at 3:30 p.m.

tabatha - "pk - he reads Breitbart. Enough said."
Don't read AP stories reposted on Breitbart - gotta maintain that left-wing bigotry; ignorance is strength.

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Posted on May 22 at 3:19 p.m.

tabatha - "14scams - wildlife thrives in the COP area under normal conditions. Wildlife has been killed with this spill, which is not as large as it could have been. Please think through the difference."

Don't try to think -
Coal Oil Point seeps have been there for thousands of years. Marine life that isn't compatible with the environment doesn't live there and hasn't in a very long time. The environment is essentially static and has been for thousands of years. There's a lot more oil on the sea floor there and high methane escape (82% of county CH4) and other volatile chemicals than in this small oil spill.
The marine environment was altered in a very short period of time in a small area due to this spill.
The difference between the 2 regions is that this spill is an example of a cause-effect relationship resulting from a change in environment, and Coal Oil Point is a static environment.

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Posted on May 22 at 12:31 p.m.

Natural seeps in the area of this oil spill leak as much oil in 5 days as the amount of oil that's reached the ocean due to this pipeline leak. This is only the OIL from natural seeps, and doesn't include methane and non-methane gases. Coal Oil Point natural seeps leak 100 barrels of oil a day, or 4200 gallons/day. The 2012 research that determined this was based on an 18 square meter area; an area equivalent to a square 2.63 miles long on each side. There's obviously a big difference between 100 barrels of oil spread over an area of ocean this large and an amount that's concentrated in a small area with a 2-foot diameter pipe as its source. The amount of oil reported as reaching the ocean due to this pipeline leak is 21000 gallons, or 500 barrels. Around 9000 gallons, or 43%, has been cleaned up so far, so, according to reported estimates of the amount spilled, there's around 12000 gallons remaining, 286 barrels. This is an amount produced by natural seeps in less than 3 days.
It's a mess, and it sounds like we won't know the cause of the leak for a while.
Natural seeps leak through faults on the seafloor. I haven't found any research on the effect of earthquakes on seepage through faults in our local seafloor, and it seems like a potentially important issue.
There is the equivalent of more than 80 Exxon Valdez oil spills on the ocean floor in SB’s offshore oil field.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10...
The only way, other than satellite photos, to see the "normal" amount of oil on the surface of the ocean from natural seeps is from the air, and I'm sure it would amaze most locals. There's an FAA designated aerobatic practice area over Gaviota, one of 2 in the county, and I've spent a lot of hours there with a great view of oil slicks.
Our definition of a "pristine" environment (from another comment) isn't the natural (oily) local environment. Fortunately there are natural oil-eating bacteria to clean up oil from natural seeps as well as accidental and presumably. preventable oil spills.

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Posted on May 21 at 9:45 p.m.

tabatha - there wasn't an earthquake. A pipe broke. We would have noticed an earthquake. I mentioned earthquakes because HAARP has been used to cause earthquakes at fracking operations. HAARP could be used to sabotage an oil pipeline.

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Posted on May 21 at 9:01 p.m.

tabatha - ""What if plastic could be made without using fossil fuels and toxic chemicals? An Australian company has done just that, with a new type of plastic that can turn hemp fiber into pretty much anything".

No; there have been many substitutes for oil-based components used in plastics, and Zeoform is another one. It definitely has many useful applications, but it's definitely not a substitute for oil-derived hydrocarbons for most applications. Not a revolutionary invention, but a great idea for the applications it's suitable for.

SB resident Adnan Khashoggi developed biodegradable polymer food packaging years ago; his company was called Earthshell - a great substitute for fast-food containers made of oil-based hydrocarbons, and I don't know what happened with it.
You can substitute a wide variety of ethers and esters with various side chains as monomers instead of oil-derived hydrocarbons, and there's been a lot of research for decades on substitutes.

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Posted on May 21 at 8:45 p.m.

loonpt - re gaia and satanism; check out Nazis and the Thule Society; about as close to gaia worship-satanism as you can get.

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Posted on May 21 at 6:33 p.m.

Botany - Is this article different? If you're up for some real conjecture:

Did anyone else notice HAARP patterns in the late morning on the 19th?
I did, and I was concerned about earthquakes, since HAARP wave patterns have been visible in satellite photos prior to many earthquakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zcz...

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