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Posted on November 30 at 8:53 a.m.

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On Occupiers Invade Campus

Posted on November 29 at 9:13 p.m.

This is one of the lectures these terrorist "students" told me to watch when I went down there to beat their faces in:

http://www.ted.com/talks/richard_wilk...

TOTAL HOGWASH

On Occupiers Invade Campus

Posted on November 22 at 1:52 a.m.

italiansurg, what do you like sharing with others?

http://shareable.net/blog/how-to-star...

On Occupying Isla Vista

Posted on November 7 at 11:28 a.m.

police have illegitimate power.

On Sheriff Addresses Deportation Program Concerns

Posted on October 31 at 1:54 p.m.

fruit trees
greenhouse
educational garden for children
white dry erase boards for information and community news
information about history of plaza
did-you-know information about chumash people BY chumash people

all of this would be free. the green living coop and permaculture guild, several landscapers, time bank members and occupySB members, would do all of this for free.

the public did not make any of these decisions and it's going to cost a bunch of money. and it could all be free.

study. permaculture. design.

On De La Guerra Plaza Redesign Makes Headway

Posted on October 31 at 8:38 a.m.

either-or thinking is 2-options only thinking.

for example,

"are you for the movement or against it?"

for and against are only 2 options. reality works more in ratios, spectrums, gradiants, percentages.

"i am 46% for it, but after i have breakfast i might be 53% for it. is that ok?"

"no, that does not sell news. i need something fiery and sensationalist. don't try to have civil discussions, or read news at positivenewsus.org, that would encourage the public to be solution-oriented and to pursue happiness and dispel fear."

does anyone here really think that there are these 2 solution options and no other ways of thinking?

liberal vs conservative
^^^
so dumb.

i believe that communities should come together with potlucks, block parties, public forums, serious discussions, and come to agreements and to voice their strong emotions of anger, hate, despair, fear, when serious issues happen.

"those libs are _______ (bad bad bad)"

"those wingnuts only want to ________ (bad bad bad)"

do any of you reading really enjoy thinking like this?

what about this.... friend-making vs. enemy-confirming? that's a nice either-or... in my personal, non-objective opinion.

On This Is Not Your Daddy’s Protest

Posted on October 28 at 12:57 p.m.

Hank:

Would it be cool if your voice mattered where you worked? In Germany, 50% of corporate decisions come from the workers, 50% comes from the board of directors. There are also cooperative workplaces and worker-owned workplaces. Shouldn't these structures be more commonplace than corporate structures which are "shareholder primacy" motivated? Here's a link explaining what shareholder primacy is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharehol...

I don't agree with your [either capitalism OR socialism] logic. In general, either/or thinking is flawed because it assumes incorrectly that there are only 2 options or solutions, when, as human creativity and imagination and intelligence demonstrates, there are often a limitless number of options and solutions. We're all creative and intelligent. We should be working together for better solutions. Don't you agree?

You should get involved with OccupyIV! occupyiv.org -- i'm helping them organize as well. they're really smart and a fairly diverse crowd, much more than SB so far.

On This Is Not Your Daddy’s Protest

Posted on October 28 at 11:46 a.m.

Re: "illegals" (lol)

US foreign policy and corporate policy is the reason "illegals" come here. Would you want to come to a place where you don't know the language, where people look down on you, just so you can make "money?" Money is not happiness; community is happiness.

Most of Mexico is populated by subsistence farmers and small scale communities who are dismantled systematically by the state -- a state system the U.S. basically invented -- and American corporate influence. NAFTA forced communities into slave wage labor, which is why they risk their lives to come to the United States. Some die, some starve to death, just to get here.

What would it take for you to cross a border full of murderers trying to snipe you, hunt you down and torture you, just to work at MacDonalds or pick tomatoes from dust 'til dawn? How racist are you?

Watch this video, make the connections,
What is HUMAN PURPOSE? Money or community?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPn...

thanks for the support, chicago folks!

On This Is Not Your Daddy’s Protest

Posted on October 28 at 9:50 a.m.

Re: Bill Clausen

I agree! Green is the most important color. I'll be hosting a permaculture workshop from 4-5pm tomorrow at De La Guerra Plaza with Barbara Wishingrad, manager of the Green Living Co-op, if anyone is interested.

Re: santabarbarasand

I wasn't at GA last night. I was developing a community building workshop at the ranch where I live in Goleta.

I covered many points in my posts above specifically because there are several points that need to be covered. I don't have "one main point." I agree:

-move money out of big banks, go credit unions
-I particularly think the Permaculture Credit Union is the way to go, although it's only Savings at this time
-corporate personhood is at the root of many of these problems, and here's where we can learn how to take care of this at the local level: http://paulcienfuegos.com/node/3
-more cross-community discussions must take place, ie PUEBLO and the Permaculture Guild; Domestic Abuse Awareness women and the SBPD -- the links don't seem obvious at first but they will if you really think about the nature of most peoples' struggles
-Cruzito goes over quite well how funding allocation should change in SB in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DDfUQ...
--1/2 of all our taxes go to military spending, that needs to stop

That's great that you work so hard. Wouldn't it be nice if businesses could be owned and operated by the workers though? How do we get society from here to there?

also, you said:

"As someone who works downtown and pays a lot of taxes, I can't help but wonder if the occupiers are paying for outhouses and cleaning up the plaza daily, or are they expecting the city (our taxes) to clean up after them? How many are sitting there instead of looking for jobs while they collect welfare or unemployment? How many are ditching school? How many are ignoring their children? "

We pay $100 a week for a portapotty via a local business owner. We store our signs and tables and tents with him and pick them up in the morning. Nobody expects the city to do anything but harass us, that's what they're intent on doing. Many are working very hard, some are umemployed but they don't represent "the movement." I don't know of any who are ditching school. We have daycare.

I'm glad you're asking questions instead of assuming and insulting. This is pretty good communication. If you have other questions my email is mlg5454@yahoo.com and I'd be willing to talk on the phone. I work remotely and have lots of free time. I hope you're having a good day at work and are engaging in civic participation, as we all should.

Very much on topic:
I highly recommend this ted talk called "the empathic civilization:"
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/jer...

On This Is Not Your Daddy’s Protest

Posted on October 27 at 10:20 p.m.

If more people had the patience to read big blocks of text we wouldn't have the problems we have.

Good night.

On This Is Not Your Daddy’s Protest

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