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Posted on September 16 at 11:04 a.m.

The photo at the link is the essence of the problem. Too long to discuss.

On The Attraction of Caves

Posted on September 16 at 9:59 a.m.

Hardly sounds like a suitable tree, and grows to 45 feet.

Cultivation details
Landscape Uses:Aggressive surface roots possible, Specimen, Street tree. Prefers a sunny position in a moderately fertile well-drained moisture retentive circum-neutral soil[200]. Tolerates poor and dry soils, especially those low in mineral elements[200]. Established plants are drought tolerant[200]. Does not succeed in frost hollows or in windy sites[107]. The plant is said to grow best where the annual rainfall, mostly summer, is 60 to 130cm, with a 5 - 7 month dry season, withstanding high temperatures (29 - 35°C mean monthly maximum) and light frosts. It succeeds in tropical and subtropical arid to semiarid zones, in infertile clays, laterites, poor and gravelly soils and podzols, preferably well drained[269]. A very fast growing species but it is not very hardy in Britain[166]. It might succeed outdoors in the mildest areas of the country. Eucalyptus species have not adopted a deciduous habit and continue to grow until it is too cold for them to do so. This makes them more susceptible to damage from sudden cold snaps. If temperature fluctuations are more gradual, as in a woodland for example, the plants have the opportunity to stop growing and become dormant, thus making them more cold resistant. A deep mulch around the roots to prevent the soil from freezing also helps the trees to survive cold conditions[200]. The members of this genus are remarkably adaptable however, there can be a dramatic increase in the hardiness of subsequent generations from the seed of survivors growing in temperate zones[200]. Cultivated in warm temperate areas for its essential oil, it thrives in a Mediterranean climate[61, 77]. Eucalyptus monocultures are an environmental disaster, they are voracious, allelopathic and encourage the worst possible attitudes to land use and conservation[200]. The trees cast a very light shade[77]. Flower buds are formed in the summer prior to flowering and seed capsules need at least a further year in which to ripen[11]. Plants are shallow-rooting and, especially in windy areas, should be planted out into their permanent positions when small to ensure that they do not suffer from wind-rock[245]. They strongly resent root disturbance and should be container grown before planting out into their permanent position[11]. The flowers are rich in nectar and are a good bee crop[200]. Special Features:Fragrant foliage, Not North American native, Inconspicuous flowers or blooms.

On Trees Being Cut Down at UCSB

Posted on September 16 at 9:01 a.m.

Lemon-scented has most often been used to describe a variety of euc; that is why I asked. I don't believe lemonade berry has a lemon scent, but it would be an appropriate and sensible plant to grow instead of eucs.

On Trees Being Cut Down at UCSB

Posted on September 16 at 8:28 a.m.

Lemon-scented eucalyptus trees?

All eucs should be replaced by oaks. Does ice plant grow under oaks? I doubt it.

As California dries, eucs become more of a hazard. They should all be cut down.

On Trees Being Cut Down at UCSB

Posted on September 15 at 3:08 p.m.

Dewdly-wrongly - so Obama and Netanyahu are buddies?

"Barack Obama may have stopped short of reading the riot act to Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday, but the White House version of the two leaders’ phone conversation left no room for doubt: The U.S. President was ratcheting up the rhetoric and the pressure on Israel to end the fighting in Gaza, and to end it now.

Both the tone and the content of the official readout of the phone call conveyed a sense of assertiveness and urgency that was significantly blunter than the language used by Obama since the start of the Gaza campaign. The immediate assumption was that the White House was venting its anger at the full frontal assault on Secretary of State John Kerry that was launched after the Israeli cabinet’s rejection of his cease-fire proposals on Friday and reached fever pitch in Sunday’s Israeli media reports. A second explanation, alternative or supplementary, was that Obama was expressing his own sense of anguish and distress with the scenes of death and destruction in Gaza that were exposed for the world to see during Friday’s 12-hour cease-fire."

In which case, the brief honeymoon that has characterized the relations between Obama and Netanyahu since the start of Operation Protective Edge on July 8 may have come to an abrupt end on Sunday, in a transatlantic phone call that signaled a return to business as usual, bitter as before.

The first sign of the change came a few short hours later, in the presidential statement issued by the UN Security Council that called also called for an immediate cease fire, using the same exact words that Obama had employed in his conversation with Netanyahu.

My recollection was that they have always been at odds with each other. There may have been 29 standing ovations from congress (which congress members?) but Obama and Bibi have not had the best of relations.

On The Roots of ISIS

Posted on September 15 at 2:56 p.m.

Israel ‘Concerned’ US War On ISIS Will Temper Hostility Toward Iran

The Israeli strategy affairs minister says that "Iran must remain the top priority".

The Israeli cabinet position of “strategy affairs minister” is primarily meant to focus around planning for a war with Iran. It’s a full time job, and it mostly involves pushing the US to threaten Iran more often.

The current minister, Yuval Steinitz, is at the forefront of Israeli officials expressing “concern” tonight at the new US war on ISIS, which they see as potentially getting in the way of long-term US hostility toward Iran.

Steinitz shrugged off ISIS as a “five-year problem,” while declaring Iran a “50-year problem with far greater impact,” and that more moves to stop Iran’s nuclear program ought to come before the new war.

Dewdly wrongly once again.

On The Roots of ISIS

Posted on September 14 at 11:30 a.m.

Writing a letter that is all bashing, and no sourced facts, and calling people concerned about water, 6 years olds - could warrant a response that the oil industry is acting like 2 year olds stamping their feet. But nothing will be achieved.

Instead of lowering the conversation to the level of playground fighting, why not consider the following:

Just because fracking for the most part, does not happen here, does not mean that it could be pursued in the future. The measure is to ban future fracking.

And as for the 6-year old analogy, I do not believe that France, Germany, many other countries, many other states, etc are 6-year olds for banning fracking. They are probably what could be considered conservative measures to conserve the status quo, by intelligent thoughtful people.

And the thousands of workers is as erroneous a claim as 300 is.

And as for catskinner's list - does that list apply to fracking or non-fracking. Because all of those topics (excluding jobs) have been brought up by serious, scientific people with respect to fracking, and cannot be dismissed out of hand.

On Oil and Drinking Water, Too

Posted on September 14 at 10:58 a.m.

The ancient scourge of slavery is still around. Human trafficking still exists, and is helped by fossil fuels. Slavery in Africa was, to some extent, stopped because of the writings of Livingstone. But, his efforts opened up Africa to colonization, where another form of slavery started. And this from wiki

"Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property.[1] Often slaves can be bought and sold. Slaves can be held from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to demand compensation. Historically, slavery was institutionally recognized by most societies; in more recent times, slavery has been outlawed in all countries, but it continues through the practices of debt bondage, serfdom, domestic servants kept in captivity, certain adoptions in which children are forced to work as slaves, child soldiers, and forced marriage.[2] Slavery is officially illegal in all countries, but there are still an estimated 20 million to 30 million slaves worldwide.[3][4] Mauritania was the last jurisdiction to officially outlaw slavery (in 1981/2007), but about 10% to 20% of its population is estimated to live in slavery.[5][6]

Slavery predates written records and has existed in many cultures.[7] Most slaves today are debt slaves, largely in South Asia, who are under debt bondage incurred by lenders, sometimes even for generations.[8] Human trafficking is primarily used for forcing women and children into sex industries.[9]"

I have to add that I have benefited from the use of fossil fuels - some of the best experiences in my life were made possible because of the ability to travel. However, as a CC believer, I believe its excessive use today is harming the planet. I once read that someone drove all the way from Los Angeles to Santa Barbara to buy an In-N-Out Burger. That is sheer waste. I use fossil fuels now, but I limit my use to only what is necessary. I am concerned about future generations having to pay for my conveniences, and not having the same opportunities that I had. I am also concerned about the quality of water, because it has been degraded badly in just the last 200 years.

On Measure P: Who’s Scaring Whom?

Posted on September 13 at 11:06 p.m.

"The greatest Ecological Disaster in the history of California has been the damming and diversion of Natural Water Flows, which lead to the current levels of overpopulation."

Too true. Mother Nature is going to have the last laugh in California. If we cannot discipline ourselves, we will nevertheless be disciplined by forces greater than ourselves. Today, conservatives do not know the meaning of the word.

(NativeGeo - once again you demonstrate your lack of reading skills. I prefaced that statement as off-topic, but as an example of earth trashing.)

On Measure P: Who’s Scaring Whom?

Posted on September 13 at 1:24 a.m.

The action of water on steel is dependent upon ph and hardness of water. Alkaline hard water will deposit calcium carbonate on the steel; acidic water will corrode steel. Soil can be acidic, as in copper pipes transporting even hard alkaline water, and corrode pipes from the outside.

In the same vein, but another topic, the huge cavernous mines left over from gold and other mining, are now a risk as they fill with water that becomes corrosive to the foundations of buildings above them.

Yep, the legacy to our children will eventually be the wisdom to be a less nature-raping society, because in moderation, nature already provided enough to live on.

On Measure P: Who’s Scaring Whom?

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