No Doubts, Boy Scouts

A new low, Barney.

Have you nothing more "portentious" to write about?

Leave the poor kids alone!

And PS the more the gay movement insists on thrusting itself all over the rest of us, the more we DO notice them (as different.) Most of us keep our sexual preferences to ourselves in the spirit of TMI (and we really don't care what your preference is! Live and let live!)

It reminds me of the Jesus freaks in the 70s. Enough already!

Barney,

Dude, why you got a be such a hater? You do your thing, let them do their thing.

"Ironically, according to Tim Jeal’s biography, British war hero Lord Baden-Powell, who founded Scouting, was a repressed homosexual." "Ironically," or "coincidentally?"

"We were not grilled on our particular personal variation of agnosticism..." "Grilled," eh? Is that what they do now Barn?

I cannot forget the progressive leadership role that grown ups took that one day that the scouting kids were jeered at during the 4th of July parade on State St. Amazing people........

Identity politics, special interest gender-based politics, read between the lines people. Barney and his ilk are part of the rending of the fabric of America--the country you and I still love. Of all the "heterosexual" men I've met who attended boy scouts not one of them is homophobic or a "hater." Most of us truly do "live and let live."

Why can't you?

Barney, get hot or go home. (Here's your suitcase...)

Maximum, the only people I hear clamoring as loud as you are homophobic, are you comfortable with your own sexuality? Take a look at what sexual repression has done to the Catholic Church and lack of education has done to the STD and pregnancy growth rate.

Interesting subject but the point I got was why, in this country that was built on religious and ideological freedom, do we allow groups to demand that we all believe the same way? What freedom are we sending those boys and girls off to war for? Someone’s profit and the right to impose religious dominance?

The strength of this country is that we are a melting pot and our success depends on our ability to take advantage of the need to work together to maintain the high ideals and goals of our forefathers. This country was not based on the belief that we must all be white, 6’2”, blue eyed blondes, another country has already tried that and it doesn’t work.
We are still an experiment as a social model in history’s eyes and I hope we can find the tolerance necessary to continue to grow.

Thanks Barney, great job.

Boy Scouts of America discriminates in their membership and employment based upon the religion and sexual orientation of current or potential members and employees.

Facts are stubborn things.

Yo, y'all have no idea what my beliefs are... But here's a great solution to all that ails you:

The Gay Scouts - no more worries there
The Gay Atheist Scouts - even clearer
Muslim Air - no body scanning worries, etc. If they blow each other up, oh well...

This IS a free country. And many of us are tired of being persecuted by noisy special interest groups.

FORM YOUR OWN G-DANG GROUPS and get over it!

You claim to believe in "live and let live" but you don't want certain types of people to actually ask for the right to be let to live without discrimination. And what makes you think that only other people have "special interests" but you don't?

Rending the fabric of America? Thrusting themselves all over you? Persecuting you? Calm down, max.

I'm so excited I'm going to _______

Fill in the blank.

Love to see what you come up with....

In the platonic dictionary that resides somewhere beyond the highest heaven, next to the entries for "human being" and "American" is a picture of max, the paradigmatic member of both species. Everyone else is a deviation from the ideal type, a special interest that assaults the perfect, neutral, objective set of cultural attitudes he represents. It's a lonely and perilous place, under attack on all sides, but he's steadfast in the calm and measured expression of his pure, disinterested vision.

pk - when I was in gradeschool a boy in class cut a foof... the entire class said "feel better now?"

I can't say it any better...

I know you can't. That's your problem.

Touche! Feel better now?

I was a boy scout until I was 18, and a cub scout before that. In my 10+ years as a scout I don't remember anything about religion ever being talked about, never mind anyones sexual orientation.

At 13 years old, being gay or worrying about Jesus just doesn't cross your mind. You want to camp, play games, shoot a bow and arrow, row a canoe, roast marshmallows and be a kid. If you kid is more worried about sex and religion at that age, ya, I'd say they had a problem beyond the boy scouts.

But hey, if you are a parent and think the boy scouts are an evil institution, don't let your kids participate. I'm sure that will help them later on in life.

All their friends were doing something, but Mom and Dad wouldn't let them. Then the poor kids go around wondering what they did to make Mom and Dad keep them away from the scouts and their frields. Way to go overly politically correct morons! Thanks for making another damaged person for the world to have to deal with...

Hatred is not letting little kids go camping (or learn archery or navigation, etc) with other little kids because they are different in some way, be it orientation (or perceived orientation) or their parent's religious beliefs or lack thereof. Pointing this out is not hatred. Any child that is deliberately kept from situations where he/she has to learn to get along with other people who are not like he/she is being put at a disadvantage. The real world awaits and there are all sorts of people in it.

I find it disturbing that the poor kids walking up State St during a 4th of July parade ( a few yrs ago) were subjected to jeers and boos by the people who claim the corner market on tolerance.

They kicked those children out of their discounted building in Manning Park, then laid into them during the parade. Hell, they ain't responsible for the BSA policies. But in typical Santa Barbara hippie (read Solstice sycophants) fashion, they took the brunt of the loud-mouthing by the activists on the curbs of State St.

I believe the justification of the eviction was due to a non discrimination policy by SB county. Fine; it's a private organization and as such, they can get the boot. But mature people wouldn't have attacked the children, but would have taken on the policies of the organization.

If I'm not mistaken, the same crap happened to our returning military in the Viet Nam war. Loudmouthed a-holes take it out on the draftees coming home. What an ugly corner to own in the market of tolerance.