Missing Men Found Dead

This has been such a difficult week for the families and the riding community, these men were very loved by many people and the amount of support from everyone was pretty extrodinary. We are just so sad that it ended this way

Do what you love, love what you do... Live your life to the fullest extent possible, with absolutely no regrets. You guys will be missed greatly and always remembered for living larger than life itself.

Rstein:

Two young men died of a tragic and freak accident leaving loved ones behind who will read these message boards to find comfort, and all you can do is make a baseless and demeaning accusation?

I will pray for your selfish and pitiful soul.

when i look back at my youth and some of the crazy stuff i did, sometimes in a mind altered state, other times not, ( ya, had some very close calls), i reflect on how lucky i am to be still breathing.

when you are young, sometimes you do stuff just for the hell of it, no rhyme or reason, its part of living, and unfortunately, sometimes it goes awry.

r.i.p. lads.

Lawdy Mama
1967
Very psychedelic

Lawdy Mama is actually Cream's 1967 ripoff of Albert King's earlier 'Pretty Woman'

It's an old cliche, but they died doing what they loved, and their spirits exited their bodies quickly.

I can speak through experience that the thrill one gets out of such activities adds much life to a person so that even when they die young, they've lived more than many who live much longer.

"The road to excess leads to wisdom, IF you can survive the journey."

All rstein did (when the comment was still available) was to ask what many of us are thinking....why were these two going out in the dark at 2 am?

Bad judgement. And now they're dead.

Of course it's sad to lose two young men in such an accident.

Why is it okay for judgmental statements to be made by Murdoch as to praying for someone's "selfish and pitiful soul" simply because the poster wondered aloud why these men were out in the dark and not waiting for a safer time for a ride.

Sheesh. Pray for the dead men, not for a poster who simply asked a question....

It is unfortunate and true that we have censorship, even in the press. You can't easily ask important questions; like those relayed by sez_me. Why a commenter can't easily ask in a 'news' story important questions like the "why" question above or why frivolous motoloco activities are even allowed at all on our sensitive planet could be explained. But to do that we would really have to have some serious introspection.

Rstein does indeed pose a very important question, did they feel endangered? Were they themselves fleeing some unknown danger?

It could have been something more innocuous ... on the night they went missing, moonrise was just after midnight. Although the moon was waning, they could have been waiting for more moonlight to enjoy some night riding.

When I used to do night mountain-biking in the backcountry, we would often time our rides the same way.

It was not WHAT rstein said, but the judgmental tone. As several others have just pointed out there are plenty of reasons that have NOTHING to do with being drunk and stupid. That was one of my points. The other was the insensitivity.

My condolences to the families and friends of Chris and Dan and to have lost them this holiday season is sad indeed. To be remembered each year will be tough and a strain for many years. As time goes by I hope that celebrating their zest for life will be infectious when the bereavement turns to the fragrance of fond memories of them both.
Without standing on that hill on that bitter cold night I can tell you that over driving headlights on all types of motorcycles and ATVs are common. The other thing that may have happened is that they were simply driving to a light on the horizon.
Military pilots flying in formation, during training, through clouds have been known to break visual of their flight formation once passing through the clouds. Instead of using their instruments they have flown hard starboard toward a port light that is a ground beacon; the pilot likeiest to do this, the one with the most experience. They teach you that in flight school. Trust your instruments. Never get comfortable, and then you’re in real danger.
Again I am so sad to have read this, my heartfelt condolences to the families and friends of Chris and Dan.