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Posted on February 11 at 12:33 p.m.

With the December 17, 2013 verdict on "Perincek vs Switzerland" by the European Courts of Human Rights, it is established that the events of 1915 cannot be proven to be genocide and cannot be compared to Jewish Holocaust. What's more, silencing contra-genocide views is a direct violation of the human right to freedom of thought, expression, and speech--a stance contra-genocide scholars and writers were advocating all along.

With this remarkable milestone of a court verdict, the Turkish side of the story, long dismissed, ignored, and/or censored, will now finally be heard. Armenian agitation, propaganda, insurgency, deception, terrorism, treason, revolts, territorial demands, and the resulting Muslim, mostly Turkish, suffering and losses will be included in the debate for a balanced treatment of the Turkish-Armenian conflict. All this can be expected to lead to civilized dialogue and reasoned debate which, in turn, may finally produce closure based on the concepts of "shared responsibility," "shared pain," and "fair memory".


On Millions Were Lost in Armenian Genocide

Posted on February 6 at 11:24 a.m.

See www.ethocide.com for a photo of the well-trained, well-armed Armenian military academy cadets posing with their Russian-made Mosin weapons as far back as 1906, flying in the face of the rhetoric we are all so familiar with: "poor,starving, unarmed, loyal Armenians cut down by blood-thirsty Turks for no reason on one 1915 morning.

You can easily see that Armenian genocide is a long-discredited political claim; whereas Jewish Holocaust is a court=proven fact. Equating the two, if not based on ignorance or deception, is an insult to the silent memory of 6 million Jews and other victims of Nazi Germans.

On Armenian Genocide Not Legally Founded

Posted on February 4 at 8:46 a.m.

Over 45 nations emerged as the Ottoman Empire was destroyed by nationalist rebellions, massacres, and displacement of civilians, resulting in the loss of over five million Ottoman citizens, including 4.1 million Muslims. Many of us Turkish Americans are the grandchildren of WWI refugees from the Balkans and Caucuses. We demand that our suffering and loss, some at the hands of Armenian revolutionaries, is also acknowledged and respected. Just because Turks of a different ethnicity and/or religion is no reason the ignore their tragedy. After all, Turks did not attack or bomb London, Paris, or Moscow; Brits, French and Russians attacked Turkish lands and used some traitorous Ottoman-Armenian against the Ottoman people. Turks were only defending their homes, like any self-respecting human do if his/her home and family are attacked. Accepting Armenian claims of genocide is, therefore, selective morality which is immorality. European Court of Human Rights verdict of December 17, 2013 solidly verifies these thoughts.

On Armenian Genocide Not Legally Founded

Posted on February 3 at 1:48 p.m.

All recognized genocides, such as the Holocaust, Srebrenica, and Rwanda, have been determined by a tribunal in accordance with the 1948 United Nations Convention on Prevention and Punishment of Genocide. But the atrocities in the Ottoman Empire were never assessed by a competent court and the intent to exterminate Armenians was never established. Bernard Lewis, a renowned Princeton scholar of Ottoman history, described the genocide claim as “the Armenian version of history.” In 2012, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stated that the Turkish-Armenian issue is a matter of historical debate by scholars. The UN, the US, the UK, Israel... No one in right mind recognizes the wild Armenian accusations, white washing Armenian hate crimes and iognoring Turkish suffering at the hands of Armenian revolutionaries.

On Armenian Genocide Not Legally Founded

Posted on February 3 at 11:46 a.m.

With the recent verdict by the European Courts of Human Rights, it is established that the events of 1915 are NOT genocide. With this remarkable milestone of a court verdict, the Turkish side of the story, long dismissed, ignored, silenced, and/or censored, will now finally be heard. Armenian agitation, propaganda, deception, terrorism, treason, revolts, territorial demands, and the resulting Muslim, mostly Turkish, losses will be included in the debate for a balanced treatment of the Turkish-Armenian conflict of WWI. Reasoned, civilized dialogue dialogue can hopefully take place. Turko-phobia and Islamo-phobia should be checked at the door prior to debating the Turkish-Armenian conflict. If that is done, then it will be seen that it was a complex human tragedy engulfing all the people of the era and area, not just Armenians. Furthermore, Armenian complicity in this tragedy, Armenian war crimes and hate crimes can no longer be dismissed out of hand. Playing field seems just a bit more level now, thanks to your decision.

On Armenian Genocide Not Legally Founded

Posted on December 16 at 8:52 a.m.

Ken Volok, you attribute too much importance to yourself to assume getting banned in Turkey, a status deemed fit for drug dealers, human traffickers, mass murdereres, and openly racist activists. I think you take Armenian claims at face value and dismiss all facts refuting them.

Here is a question that paralyzes genociders like you: "How many Muslims did Armenian kill during WWI?" You see it is a very simple question. Let's see if we can get an honest answer from this Armenophile. (Don't get your hopes high, though.)

On Not Genocide

Posted on December 15 at 2:40 p.m.

The term genocide describes a special crime that is precisely defined by the U.N. which can only take place if "intent to destroy" , in part or whole, a community with common traits, is proven after due process, at a competent tribunal.

http://www.mfa.gov.tr/data/DISPOLITIK... .

For such an intent to exist, there must be a protracted history of racial hate and discrimination, building up to a boiling point, such as in the Holocaust (1942-1945), the Rwanda Genocide (1994) and, most recently, the genocide in the Bosnian town of Srebrenica (1995.) It is common knowledge that no such systematic, scheming and lasting hate campaigns ever existed in the 623-year-long the history of the Ottoman Empire. In fact, quite the contrary exists, where the Armenians were dubbed "the loyal nation", that is of course, until the early 20th Century.

There was no competent tribunal employing due process of any kind scrutinizing the embellished Armenian allegations of genocide--save the Kangaroo courts of 1920 in occupied Istanbul--and there exists no court verdict.

These facts do not seem to stop Armenian writers and their supporters from still outrageously claiming that 1915 events constitute genocide, totally ignoring Armenian war crimes, revolts, treason, terrorism, hate crimes, territorial demands and their Turkish victims.

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Posted on December 12 at 8:03 p.m.

Genocide is a long discredited Armenian political claim, not honest history

The term genocide describes a special crime that is precisely defined by the U.N. which can only take place if intent to destroy , in part or whole, a community with common traits, is proven after due process, at a competent tribunal ( http://www.mfa.gov.tr/data/DISPOLITIK... )

For such an intent to exist, there must be a protracted history of racial hate and discrimination, building up to a boiling point, such as in the Holocaust (1942-1945), the Rwanda Genocide (1994) and, most recently, the genocide in the Bosnian town of Srebrenica (1995.) Whereas it is common knowledge that no such systematic, scheming and lasting hate campaigns ever existed in the 623-year-long the history of the Ottoman Empire.

In fact, quite the contrary exists, where the Armenians were dubbed "the loyal nation", that is of course, until the early 20th Century. There was no competent tribunal employing due process of any kind scrutinizing the embellished Armenian allegations of genocide--save the Kangaroo courts of 1920 in occupied Istanbul--and there exists no court verdict. Malta Trials attempted by the British occupiers had to be abandoned because the Crown Courts could not find supporting evidence and documents in the two years they researched Ottoman, British and American archives. Moreover, the 1916 Ottoman Courts Marshall did try, convict and punish abusers of the TERESET (the Temporary Resettlement Order of May 27, 1915). All of these legal proceedings of one kind or another do help prove, beyond a shadow of doubt, that there was no genocide. None of this, however, seems to stop Armenian lobbyists and their supporters from outrageously claiming that 1915 events constitute genocide, totally ignoring Armenian war crimes, revolts, treason, terrorism, hate crimes, territorial demands and their Turkish victims.

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Posted on December 12 at 7:50 p.m.

Armenians must face up to their own unspeakable crimes against humanity before any closure can occur. If you are still in doubt, let me refer you to an Armenian source to see photos of Armenian murderers, gun-toting Armenian clergy, their Muslim, mostly Turkish, victims: Houshamatyan of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation, Centennial, Album-Atlas, Volume I, Epic Battles, 1890-1914 (The Next Day Color Printing, Inc., Glendale, CA, U.S.A., 2006. The incredible photo on page 185 can be seen here: www.ethocide.com .

This single frame of photo will make a believer out of you that Armenian are not telling you the whole truth... They never did!

Armenian terrorism, treason and many revolts from 1862 to 1922 contradict with the embellished and falsified Armenian narrative. This turn, creates “cognitive dissonance” in Armenian people. Cognitive dissonance is a discomfort caused by holding conflicting ideas, beliefs, and values simultaneously. In a state of dissonance, people may feel surprise, anxiety, fear, guilt, anger, humiliation, or shame. Modern Psychology informs us that people tend to reduce dissonance by altering existing cognitions, adding new ones to create consistency in their belief system, or alternatively by reducing the importance of any one of the dissonant elements. Armenian choose to do the latter, totally ignoring and censoring the other side of the story pointing at Armenian hate crimes and war crimes, which are conveniently “forgotten” in AJR 2. (www.ataa.org )

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Posted on December 12 at 7:42 p.m.

I oppose AJR 2, a deceitful legislation influenced by ethnic lobby, because…

Assembly Joint Resolution 2 introduced by California State Assemblymen Mike Gatto and Katcho Achadjian promoting an “alleged” Armenian Genocide, is based on a racist and dishonest interpretation of history.

Quoting myths, cliches and slogans, these two Armenian lobbysists butcher history scholarship. Their approach to Turkish-Armenian conflict is delusional and replete with errors, omissions, misrepresentations, fabrications, and self-praise. For example, one reads nothing about Armenian hate crimes, war crimes, revolts, treason, terrorism, territorial demands and the Turkish victims of atrocities committed by Armenians between 1890-1922.

Well, what’s left ? What’s left is wild Armenian accusations, discredited pseudo-scholarly arguments, unjustifiable political claims, anti-Turkish bias, and anti-Muslim bigotry, all persistently contributing to the formation of a racist attitude fueling an ominous genocide industry.

Lacking legal and historical substantiation, the Armenian lobby’s effort only fan the flames of division, polarization, and Armenian hatred for all things Turkish. Nothing more.

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