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Posted on November 5 at 2:08 p.m.
Measure P lost the skirmish but the battle is just getting started. Big Oil spent 7.7 million to win it and employed Richard Berman's "win ugly, lose pretty" playbook. We'll be back, smarter, stronger and unbowed. Anti-fracking measures won in San Benito Co, Mendocino Co, somewhere in Ohio and --of all places--in Denton, TEXAS. In other good news. Lois Capps won re-election. The less said about the vacuous Teaparty Symp, opposing her, the better. (But let us hope that he finally recognizes, after so many failed attempts, that there's no seat for him at the grown-ups political table).
On Capps Survives; Measures P and S Flame Out
Posted on November 3 at 5:48 p.m.
You're just making crap up, NoseHairScans. It will be an enormous pleasure not to see your name on these pages once this election is over. ENORMOUS!
On Ballot Review by Concerned Taxpayers
Posted on November 3 at 8:51 a.m.
Anyone concerned about money, should factor in the increasing health costs for those who are unfortunate enough to live or work anywhere near oil production activities. Cancer is expensive. .
Posted on November 2 at 2:19 p.m.
NaiveGO, We're not throwing rocks, because many of us live and work in NoCo. It's a mistake for you to assume that everyone living in NoCo is in lockstep with Oil. Have a nice day.
On What Really Matters About Measure P
Posted on November 2 at 10:23 a.m.
I've already rebutted your nonfactual "facts" surrealitycheck. But you pay no attention. Who's paying YOU to tell your lies?? Is it Richard Berman, the Kochs or one of their phony "non-profit" fronts? Or are you being paid directly by one of the oil companies?
On An Anti-Endorsement
Posted on November 2 at 10:05 a.m.
Boles has been, for many years a paid consultant for Big Oil and so is his wife, who is now on the Oil Biz payroll as a lawyer.
Posted on November 1 at 5:51 p.m.
None of us were paid to gather signatures NG. We worked long hours in the hot sun, and were glad to do it to get Measure P on the ballot. We are convinced that this is important for Santa Barbara County and for the planet.
As for you Oil Shills, we may not know your real names, but we've got your number. it's good to know who you are, and what appalling human beings you truly are. Do you really think it's OK to be part of an attempt to buy an election? That's what you've done. And you did it for $12 lousy bucks an hour? I can't tell you how many times I've heard some right winger decry the so-called "dirty tricks" of the old time organizer Saul Alinsky. But jeez, Saul had nothing on you SOBs. I'll say one thing: what galls me most is that a significant number of you don't even live in California. (But were for the most part, too stupid to hide it). Those of you who have very little or very shallow scientific information, but attempted to deny that climate change is real, nonetheless, stood out glaringly. Pure right wing BS, directly from the Berman and Kock playbooks.
Posted on October 31 at 5:44 p.m.
Dear NoseHairScans, OMG, how did you know?
We are completely in thrall to the Underground Super-Duper, World Wide Anti-Fracking Movement, coming soon to a community near you! In fact, we have Russian-manufactured chips implanted in our eyes. The next time you see someone wearing a YES on Measure P t-shirt, look closely into their pupils and you'll see "I LOVE VLADIMIR" written in Cyrillic. (You DO read Cyrillic, right? It's one of the requirements to be a Water Guardian).
Actually, donations to Yes on P are NOT tax deductable. And no, we're not in cahoots with any world wide conspiracy. It's just that great minds think alike and a lot of people all around the world have come to know that Big Oil is not a friend of the Earth and not good for people or other living things. Here's a helpful hint for you: Turn off Fox News. It makes you stupid and mean.
Posted on October 31 at 5:24 p.m.
I haven't quite figured out why forty-niner has so little "sence" nor can I figure out what he's trying to say most of the time. So I usually just ignore him. But in any case, DavyBrown, Yes on P!
Posted on October 31 at 1:50 p.m.
Let's stick to the money spent on Measure P, shall we N.G.? Big OIL has spent upwards of $7.7 million dollars. (And that's only the money we know about. YES on Measure P has less than $400 thousand dollars. So cry me an oily river.
Regarding the dubious list of "facts" posted by surrealitycheck:
1-You should add this addendum: NOT YET. We have no way of knowing if our water has been contaminated because until moderately recently oil companies engaged in "self-reporting". They didn't even mention that they fracked someone's cattle growing land (situated near his vineyard) in 2011. The owner of the land reported it to the authorities. Water contamination certainly has happened in Kern County and several other places. Who's to say it won't happen here? In fact it will, if not closely monitored.
2-Tabatha covered # 2.
3-Again, you need to add: NOT YET. There have been problems elsewhere. A man was boiled alive in a sink hole caused by cyclic steam injection in Kern Co. What will stop it from happening here? This particular activity is notorious for dangerous well-head blowouts and failures and is associated with increased likelihood of earthquakes, especially near fault lines. Good thing we don't have any fault lines in Santa Barbara Co. huh? .
4-It takes years for some of the chemicals--benzene and toluene, just to mention two--used in fracking or cyclic steam injection to travel through soil. Why should we believe they won't eventually reach our water aquifers? And where DO you get all the water required for these extraction techniques? We keep hearing a lot of rather vague answers. With water in short supply, it's worth more to Santa Barbara Co than oil.
5- You say that like it's a bad thing. :o) Most of us watch the Daily Show, so we're better informed than you Fox News goons. (Studies have shown).
6-The Water Guardians are grateful to have help writing Measure P from a law firm which specializes in environmental law. This isn't a secret, so what's your point?
On Who Funds Opposition to P?