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    Protesting Karl Rove

    Q&A with Campus Activists


    Thursday, February 25, 2010
    By David McAfee
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    Karl Rove, former senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush, is scheduled to give a guest lecture in Campbell Hall at UCSB, at 8 p.m. on Thursday, February 25. The student governing body regards Rove as an educational asset because of his extensive knowledge of the inner workings of the Bush administration, and because of his opinions, which break from the UCSB student body’s traditionally liberal views. Some students and groups strongly disagree, including UCSB Anti-War.

    I had the opportunity to interview some of the members of UCSB Anti-War — who wished to remain individually anonymous — regarding the controversial speaker and why they are staging a protest on campus when Rove is scheduled to speak. The protest is scheduled to begin at 6 p.m. on the day of Rove’s arrival, and is expected to exceed more than a hundred activists against the UCSB sanctioned speaker.

    What does your group expect to accomplish by protesting Rove’s appearance?

    Karl Rove was one of the chief war criminals in the Bush administration. As Bush’s top advisor who helped Bush rise to power, he has been called “Bush’s Brain.” He should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. Mass public repudiation of former Bush officials wherever they speak is an essential strategy for holding them accountable politically for the grievous damage they have done to this country and to people around the globe. It is also a key way to shine the light on many of the same policies that the Obama administration has been continuing for over a year now.

    In addition, we want to send a message to our student government that war criminals belong behind bars, not behind podiums. We speak for a large plurality of students who are angry that Rove is being paid a sizeable amount of student money. We are pursuing political action to redirect, toward Haiti relief, the funds allocated to Rove.

    Have you ever planned a similar presentation in the past?

    The current members of our group are newer than those who were around about two years ago. That former group of students did great work, like a student strike against the Iraq War that ended up taking over the 217 freeway, and a successful disruption of CIA recruiters and a military technology conference.

    This year, we’ve established a new presence by organizing two protests against Obama’s “surge” of the war in Afghanistan, but Rove’s appearance hands us an opportunity to do some much higher-profile resistance, and we’re excited about that.

    What, specifically, has Karl Rove done that has had a negative effect on Americans?

    Karl Rove has a long history using dirty politics to subvert popular will, and using state power to protect corrupt corporations. For example, [during the buildup to the invasion of Iraq] when former U.S. ambassador Joseph Wilson admitted that Iraq didn’t pose a significant threat to the U.S., Rove waged a well-orchestrated smear campaign to conceal the truth and discredit Wilson.

    Rove worked with the tobacco giant Philip Morris in the ‘90s to pressure certain politicians against suing the company.

    But today Rove is most notable for his role, with other neo-conservatives, in deliberately exaggerating the threat of WMDs in Iraq. This royal fabrication, with the help of the corporate media, was meant to dupe the American people into supporting an unjust and immoral invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Lancet, one of the oldest scientific medical journals in the world, estimates that over one million Iraqis have died violent deaths as a result of the American invasion.

    Rove has dodged nearly a dozen Congressional subpoenas and escaped several [citizens’] arrest attempts, and continues to travel the country and get paid to spread political propaganda on college campuses. He lies that the U.S. government never relied on torture, even though it has been admitted through government memos and official testimony that the CIA relied on techniques such as raping people with broken bottles, boiling people alive, and even torturing children with insects, as exposed by former British ambassador Craig Murray. (This is aside from well-known torture techniques such as waterboarding and sleep deprivation.)

    How much money is he being paid for his appearance?

    As far as we know, Karl Rove’s standard speaking fee is $25,000. The majority of this has been fundraised by the College Republicans from local conservative sympathizers, amounting to $17,567 in donations. The additional $7,433 is provided by a mix of student funds allocated by UCSB Associated Students Finance Board and Legislative Council. These are funds appropriated from the collective student body through registration and program fees, intended specifically for allocation to campus events and activities that incorporate and are to the benefit of the entire UCSB student body. An additional $5,500 has been allocated by the Associated Students to help the College Republicans pay for venue and security fees.

    Is there anything else you’d like to add?

    People who see the need for serious anti-war action and discussion are welcome at our meetings, every Friday at 5 p.m. at the Biko House on Sueno Road. You can find SB Anti-War on Facebook, and on our blog. The future is unwritten—what we get is up to us. Get to know us, contribute to the Karl Rove protest any way you can, and dare to struggle for a better world.

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    Clearly in the minds of these folks free speech only applies to liberals. Typical of the university mindset. Thanks to the liberal faculty for completely failing to instill respect for freedom of speech in their students.

    JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
    February 25, 2010 at 2 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    At first I was like, "So Rove's a war criminal?" Used to be we held trials in this country. Thank goodness we don't do that anymore; otherwise people might start enjoying their freedom and stop reacting to hyperperbole.

    But holy smokes! Then you go and tell me Rove spread death by working with Big Tobacco (which I didn't know was both illegal and immoral as well as all sorts of unsavory), before graduating to working with Dick Cheney and George W. Bush? That's like having Lucifer, Beazlebub, and Satan as references on your resume. Thank you for alerting me to this dangerous cabal.

    I mean, sure it's not like he was actually elected to office; or actually did anything that he can be arrested and prosecuted for. But his ideas and policies are alleged to have led to the death of millions, so isn't it also fair to brand Rove as a thought criminal as well as a war criminal?

    Thank you for correctly exposing the cowardly local conservatives who helped fund this event as the sympathizers that they are. Next time I encounter one, they will recieve no sympathy from me! I mean it's not like they are just ordinary freedom loving Americans right? Is there any way we can identify and round up these seditious sympathizers? I mean it can't be too hard right? I assume they still fly an American flag on their front porch.

    I mean sure, I took some jobs that I was opposed to philosophically,...and yeah, some people got hurt in the process. I once took paychecKKKs from a neighborhood convenient store that profited from tobacco and alcohol sales. I'm pretty sure they stripmined my neighborhood by selling lottery tickets too. But Rove is a paid propagandist! College is no place for retired political operatives to be paid to spread propaganda. It's just offensive and I already pay a fortune in taxs to have this done by academic proffesionals.

    Thank you for exposing this dangerous threat to the monolithic expression of thought at UCSB and the country at large.

    Disturber (anonymous profile)
    February 25, 2010 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    Disturber, I love you!

    JohnLocke (anonymous profile)
    February 25, 2010 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    The anti-war wackos are just as loony as the tea-party zealots.

    FightWoo (anonymous profile)
    February 25, 2010 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    I get anonymous quotes, but a whole article without a single name? Thats just bad journalism.

    Bajades (anonymous profile)
    February 25, 2010 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    Actually, I checked out their blog and they're kind of cute because they are such cookie cutter marxists.

    They even call President Obama, Uncle Bam. I thought that was pretty clever. I think they came up a little short and should have gone with Uncle Bom, but that's probably crossing the line and they might not have had a chance to have read that book yet.

    Disturber (anonymous profile)
    February 25, 2010 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    I get it now. Let Columbia U. "celebrate" and "embrace" Chavez, the frikking communist dictator under the guise of free speech and "diversity", but ***t on anyone that disagrees with socialist democrats. Got it. Thanks comrades. Diversity of opinions. Got it SO WELL. You guys are swell.

    azuresees (anonymous profile)
    February 25, 2010 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    The way I see it, one side must be right, and the other wrong.

    I'm going to have to make up my mind whether I'm going to believe everything I hear from the DNC or if I should believe all I hear from the RNC.

    billclausen (anonymous profile)
    February 25, 2010 at 9:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    No, Bill; Let these young skulls decide that for you. After all, they are in control in their domain....loud is right for them. Obfuscation is the guiding light.

    Give them a break, though. I was a loudmouth a**hole at that age as well. Then I grew up and had kids. They say most Republican's are just Dems' with teenagers... :)

    azuresees (anonymous profile)
    February 25, 2010 at 9:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    If you want to find out if you are a real American or not be there on February 28th. Or one could just read between the lines of the comments above.

    Num1UofAn (anonymous profile)
    February 25, 2010 at 10:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    Universities should be safe havens for free speech and diverse perspectives. Let students decide if they agree or disagree.

    RyanLA (anonymous profile)
    February 25, 2010 at 10:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

    Hey, Ahmedinejad spoke at a US university, and although Rove is responsible for more deaths, why not host him? This is America, and we believe in free speech.

    But I also support the rights of the protestors. Some of the above critics are myopic.

    ahem (anonymous profile)
    February 26, 2010 at 12:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

    Perhaps one day Rove and his merry band of rogues can make speeches to the International Criminal Court in The Hague .

    geeber (anonymous profile)
    February 26, 2010 at 4:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

    "Some of the above critics are myopic". For sure, but lets get to the chase here: The mindset of "the above critics" is exactly the same as that of the ranks of German sycophants who followed their charismatic hardline right wing leader in the late 1920s and into the 1930s.

    These were different times, different circumstances and involved different people... but human nature and mass psychology remains consistent. In every human culture, no matter what race, creed, color or geographical location, there are about 23% who defer to following authority without question, and will faithfully defend the powers-that-be without question.

    bloggulator (anonymous profile)
    February 26, 2010 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

    Note well, the conservative commentators above don't attempt to falsify the specific grievances the students above have against Rove (torture, outing of Plame, iraq invasion and 1mil Iraqi deaths, defending "free speech" of Big Tobacco).
    Unlike Rove, they don't even bother to try defending these things. They instead choose to hate on the students and accuse them of opposing "free speech." Any peep from our conservative "small-government"-loving friends against illegal government wiretapping, Patriot Act, Military Commissions, act, or torture? Not.
    These people simply cannot stand the fact that Rove and the rest of the Bush gang rightfully continue to draw ire everywhere they go, and not only in traditionally "liberal" areas like Santa Barbara.
    I guess the signers of Nuremberg and the Geneva Conventions were also just "wackos" with too much education?
    Oh wait America signed on to those last time I checked. The U.S. in fact prosecuted some of its own soldiers for using waterboarding in the Vietnam War. Ancient history.
    Isn't it great to get back to the good old days when good old boys can use spanish inquisition tactics on people they've detained and rendered WITHOUT CHARGES and get away with it?
    Poor millionaire conservatives like Rove...always the victim. They stridently oppose affirmative action for the descendants of former slaves but they want it for professors who agree with their views. They endeavor to destroy public education but they expect "the taxpayers" (i.e. university students and their parents) to subsidize Rove---a professional liar whose pleading of "the US doesn't torture" has been refuted by official government memos. And when former top state officials show up to speak who justify torture, FISA wiretapping and pre-emptive war, dontcha know they're all about free speech and diversity!
    Free speech was arguably designed to protect the people against censorship and terrorism by THE STATE.
    Flash forward to 2010. The American Goebells' shrieks of always being "victims" (of peaceful student protestors!!) are beyond childish---they're chilling to people with any sense of history.

    antiwar (anonymous profile)
    February 26, 2010 at 7:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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