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Posted on August 16 at 7 p.m.

Blocker, my reply to Forelle applied equally to your remarks in advance. The motivation/s of those who cut genitals means nothing to those whose genitals are cut, and they are many and varied (and irrational) for both sexes. (See http://wwww.circumstitions.com/FGC-st... and http://wwww.circumstitions.com/Stitio...)
ALL female genital cutting, not "just" clitoridectomy, is outlawed in most of the developed world. Why the double standard?

Rather strikingly, REAL anti-semtites, the American Nazi Party and the KKK, have nothing to say about circumcision - probably because they're mostly circumcised themselves.

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Posted on August 12 at 8:54 p.m.

Forelle, we do not "equate" male and female genital cutting, except as human rights issues - the non-consensed removal of normal, healthy, irreplacable, functional genital tissue. ANY such removal (not just the horrors of tribal Africa) is outlawed federally in the USA and throughout most of the developed world, without any religious exemption, though many Muslims believe a mild version (the Prophet reportedly said not to take too much) is required by Islam.

If you compare tribal with tribal, scores of boys die from circumcision every year in one province of South Africa alone (the only place they keep figures). If you compare surgical with surgical, girls in the USA were circumcised in the 1960s with this device - http://www.circumstitions.com/methods... (NSFW) - which has a shield to protect the cl!tor!s.

"Referring to a lawsuit with no knowledge whatsoever of any of the facts, but merely the outcome, is the epitome of hysteria." The case is very clear (I have talked to the prosecuting lawyer) that in both (now three) cases, the faulty design of the Mogen clamp allowed the boys' penis-heads to be trapped unseen where part could be cut off, and the maker has gone out of business.

A risk/benefit analysis of circumcision finds against the procedure. The case that it prevents any STI transmission is weak and mixed. Circumcision does indeed date back thousands of years, to the stone age. So should clubbing and dragging by the hair be acceptable coursthip behaviour?

Of the world's 6 billion people, about half are men, about half a billion of them Muslims. The US, the Philippines, South Korea, tribal Africa, Israel, parts of Melanesia, eastern Polynesia and aboriginal Australia are the only communities where circumcision continues, making up perhaps another half billion. Most of the world does NOT do this.

"Let people make choices for their own families."
As one man said, but more colourfully -
"My family doesn't [urinate] with my [p enis], my family doesn't [ma sturbate] with my [pe nis] and my family doesn't [have sexual intercourse] with my [pen is], so what business did my family have to go cutting part OFF of my [peni s]?"

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Posted on August 11 at 5:41 p.m.

The same scripture that said Abraham and his son and "all their kin" must be circumcised, said their slaves and everyone in the household must be, too. The Mexican live-in gardener might have something to say about that.

"Raphael fortunately has never encountered major complications." Would he? Or would they be taken to a healing doctor, like the Richmond VA paediatrician who repaired 1600 botches in three years, suggesting a complication rate of 13%?

Cutting off parts of babies because of what _might_ happen when they are 90+? What proportion of the male population ever even reaches that age? (I checked, it's about 0.4%.)

Honestly, the topic of circumcision seems to switch off people's brains.

And again with Foreskin Man being blond! Is there an ADL for blonds?

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Posted on July 6 at 9:15 p.m.

@Jukin: the proposed age-restriction (not a ban) would apply to all circumcision, regardless of religion. (97% of US circumcision is "medical".) Infant circumcision violates HIS First Amendment right to practise the religion of HIS choice, when he is old enough, without having had another, not of his choice, cut into his body before he could resist.

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Posted on July 6 at 4:29 p.m.

@winddancer: Doubtless Indonesian, Malaysian and Singaporean men do the same when they encounter their first "uncircumcised" woman. (And the practice there is surgical and much milder than the horrors of tribal Africa, so they are comparable.) That's a really bad reason for doing it to babies.

And they are not "snipped". With the Accu-circ they are chopped. With the Gomco and other clamps, sliced (and until the Mogen company went out of business after lawsuits worth $18M, with the Mogen clamp, the glans might be sliced as well). With the popular Plastibell, the foreskin is crushed and dies. You can see pictures and videos of these methods being done at http://www.circumstitions.com/#pictures.

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