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Posted on August 1 at 1:15 p.m.
"...GZ did NOTHING that would LEGALLY justify a physical beating."
So....you're saying that the beating was justified, just not by law?
"I have several neighbors that could reasonably be described as "busy bodies" - from time to time they have followed me for no apparent reason."
This is a false-equivalency. You recognize your neighbors, while Martin did not know who Zimmerman was or what he was up to. If a stranger followed you in the middle of the night, would you not exhibit *any* flight-or-fight response? And, are you the type of man who would choose flight in that situation?
Posted on July 30 at 2:28 p.m.
If Zimmerman had been carrying a non-lethal weapon, it is possible that Martin might have brought some harm--maybe even death, if the "smashing his head in the concrete" line is believed. However, the difference is that Martin would probably have gone to jail. And in that fantasy case, I still would believe that the responsibility of taking actions that led to such and end would rest with Zimmerman, whom I see as the original aggressor.
The incredible irony is two-fold: 1) That Martin was not a threat until provoked, and 2) that Zimmerman turned out to be the danger in his neighborhood that he was seeking to control--he killed an INNOCENT kid, who was MINDING HIS OWN BUSINESS!
On Injustice for Some
Posted on July 30 at 1:24 p.m.
"nose wheelies" = stoppies
On Clint Ewing's Burning Ring of Fire
Posted on July 23 at 1:52 p.m.
"Look, armed, unarmed - it really doesn't matter what GZ did prior to the physical altercation. (In some jurisdictions "fighting words" come into play, but generally speaking, people have a right to be mouthy, annoying a-holes - you NEVER have a right to beat someone down just because they're a pest. EVER! Get over it!)"
According to the Declaration of Independence, Trayvon had an "unalienable" right to Life. Perhaps, he feared that the "cracker" was dangerous, and so he attacked him--we'll never know.
What *is* known, is that what led to the confrontation was COMPLETELY the fault of Zimmerman--regardless of Martin escalating to physical contact. And the results--the shooting/killing of Martin--was only possible because Zimmerman carried a gun while stalking the man.
If Zimmerman had followed a wild animal and gotten mauled, would the animal be to blame? (Not to equate Martin with an "animal", but to show that if Zimmerman thought he was dangerous to being with, why would he follow him--was it because he felt secure carrying a gun?)
Trayvon paid for his choice of fight over flight with his life. Zimmerman should NOT get off completely scott-free for causing his death. It wasn't murder, but certainly should be manslaughter, or what might be something similar to a "wrongful death" (I know, that's a legal term that doesn't correctly apply, but hopefully the point is clear.)
On My First Gun
Posted on July 18 at 1:16 p.m.
George Zimmerman *had* worked as private security, but I believe was an insurance agent at the time of the shooting. He has also be described as a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, but I also heard he was the only participant.
As for the instruction to "hold back", in your words, I recall that on the audio tape, he said that he was getting out of his car to look for Trayvon (I think he lost visual contact), and the operator said, "We don't need you to do that". To me, that is vague enough to not be an actual command, although I feel that the intent was clear enough.
Unfortunately, I was never available to see any of the the trial coverage, so I don't know if GZ identified himself to TM at any time, which might have made a difference.
"As for poor little TM, he represented himself on FB as a thug. He was interested in buying a 9mm pistol, and that he was some type of MMA wanna be. The sad truth is that people like TM either have super steep learning curves or find an early grave."
One could equally say that "poor little" GZ represented himself as a hero, was interested in power, and was some kind of constable wannabe. The sad truth is, people like GZ are overly-zealous, and cocksure about their capabilities, and may cause someone else to go to an early grave.
These are both comments which are more opinion that fact, although mine is meant to be somewhat satirical of yours.
On Back in Black
Posted on July 18 at 12:33 p.m.
My vote would be for option (A), with or without gun ownership. You would be protecting yourself first, and if the police investigated, the object of the stranger's search might at least have something on record, should anything involving that same stranger happen at a later time.
"Up here in Lompoc, a DARE officer was in front a class of 5th graders showing off his issue weapon and shot himself in the leg."
That happened quite often, in the early-adoption days of the Glock in law enforcement circles. IIRC, the previous weapon chosen for officers was a double-action model revolver, which had a much heavier trigger-pull. Another point, which possible dou4now might be able to corroborate or not, is that the *training* involved having one's finger on the trigger when drawn. The later change to the Glock, which has the trigger-integrated "safety", and a lighter-pull trigger, combined with the habit of finger-on-the-trigger, to create a condition which led to the effect known as "Glock Leg". GL of course, is what happens when one shoot's oneself in the leg with a Glock! [As TyreByter commented, "...keep your finger off the trigger until you are sure of your target and what is behind it."]
--As for the acquittal of Zimmerman, I have read accounts on the jury decision which placed the blame on Trayvon Martin, stating that he had the option to run away. The irony is, that this is exactly the action for which the "Stand Your Ground" law was created to eliminate--the DUTY TO RETREAT. It make is seem that had Mr. Martin had a gun, then it would have been okay to shoot Mr. Zimmerman--but beating the man for stalking him was not! IMO, Zimmerman was the aggressor, regardless of at what point he found himself "in fear for his life".
Posted on July 5 at 1:26 p.m.
Grab your board and go sidewalk surfin' with me....
On Terrorists on Wheels
Posted on July 5 at 1:10 p.m.
"I understand Benefield's point though. She might have drawn more sympathetic comments had the suggestion been that children of members of Congress must be drafted."
I'm sure you already know this, but in case you don't, this is a point that is actually made in the Michael Moore, movie "Fahrenheit 9/11". [Btw, I call it a "movie", as opposed to a "documentary", because even though I tend to agree with Moore's general direction, I thought it was highly biased.]
On Inclusive Military
Posted on July 5 at 9:41 a.m.
@DrDan / OT
"the three greatest mass murderers"
I think it is misleading, to apply that term directly to those who were named (Mao, Stalin, Hitler). While it is true, that their actions *led* to the killing of great numbers of people, they themselves did not do it "hands on", a la serial killers.
Aside, I think it's interesting to note, that if the three were truly atheists, then they could never claim that God was "on their side", while being responsible for so many deaths. This is in contrast to the Crusaders, some Muslims, Jews (Jewish-Roman Wars), and maybe any "God-fearing" immigrants to America who were responsible for killing Amerindians (Native Americans).
On Atheists Saved!
Posted on June 13 at 2:22 p.m.
"(And for the last time, Nancy Lanzas' Bushmaster rifle was found locked in the trunk of the car Adam Lanzas supposedly drove to Sandyhook school - this is fact borne out by video that was taken immediately after the shooting, so I couldn't care less what CNN, Wiki or anybody else has to say about it.)"
Then, your obstinance is clearly contributing to your ignorance. If you research "the video" (Idk which one, because you yet again fail to offer any kind of link or descriptive reference), you will find that a "viral" video was a hoax.
I rest my case, specifically leaving out further details, as they apparently don't matter.
On Guns, Congress, and the Commander-in-Chief
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