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Posted on February 27 at 3:45 p.m.

Oh, oh, also, IVLocal, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the "meth" you found in the driveway was probably molly considering they had a rave their the night before.. altho i wouldn't be surprised if it was molly that was cut with meth.

On Second UCSB Frat Closed in Three Months

Posted on February 27 at 3:16 p.m.

I'm not saying the midnight noise ordinance is the most unreasonable and tyrannical way in which the IV residents are hassled, but it is another excuse to come in and shut down parties, often when nobody is complaining. I would like to see it be complaint based after midnight and at least allow them to go to 1am if there are no complaints.. I think people would be more tired and ready to head in for the night after partying with music until 1am and you would have less people out creating trouble in that midnight - 2am slot as parties shut down and people are still wanting to stay out. It just causes more problems.

I have a much bigger problem with the planned 24 hr noise ordinance in April in order to attempt to shut down deltopia, which won't work and will only serve to create more problems. People will go to party and won't have an activity like dancing and listening to music to help pass the time and have something to do. It will create a situation like last time where everybody is out drunk in the streets and potentially causing problems.

And there was in fact a big party on DP that was shut down before midnight simply for having a keg... and they did arrest at least one person who was helping to pick up the mess after the party.

I was informed that this particular frat had a party last Saturday night that was shut down because they ran the music past midnight. It was a big rave style party with a DJ. They are in trouble for hazing and "serious misconduct" which could include breaking noise ordinances and having parties where they serve alcohol to minors (which they obviously do).

I don't have an opinion on what the frat should do to punish them, I have an opinion on how the community to react to college students partying - which is that trying to stop it will only make things worse.

I don't know if you can hold the frat responsible for the meth in their driveway when they have so many people visiting them, and I would have thought you would have found coke. Coke does seem to be gaining traction in IV. Bring back the keg parties on Del Playa, you will have less drug use in IV.

On Second UCSB Frat Closed in Three Months

Posted on February 27 at 2:55 p.m.

"It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out any more. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, "Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials, and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone."

Well, I'm not going to leave you alone.

I want you to get mad!

I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot. I don't want you to write to your Congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street.

All I know is that first, you've got to get mad.

You've gotta say, "I'm a human being, goddammit! My life has value!"

So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell,

"I'm as mad as hell,

and I'm not going to take this anymore!!""

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Posted on February 27 at 1:32 p.m.

It's so great that we have a whitecrow going around telling everybody how life is or how life should be.. Especially when they don't listen - especially when I've already said there are ways to resolve neighbor complains without a blanket ban on late night parties.. You think everybody should live in quiet neighborhoods and nobody should be able to have the ability to move into a neighborhood with like minded individuals and have late night parties.. Why don't you mind your own business and move to a quiet neighborhood?? 99% of the neigbhorhoods in this town are VERY QUIET. Nobody who wants to live in a quiet neighborhood is being forced to live in the party centric areas in IV or on Oceano, almost every other block in the whole area is QUIET... so move THERE and let people in the party centric areas which make up about 1% or less of the areas in town and are very well known do what they want to do and stop trying to make every single neighborhood that you don't even live in a police tyranny zone.

Nobody can ever party late because somebody might want to sleep, never mind that in some neighborhoods EVERYBODY moves there for the sole purpose of having late night parties and nobody would ever complain - the cops often break up parties after midnight because of the noise violation ordinance, and it is often not because they are getting neighbor complaints.

And my main point isn't to teach other people a lesson about minding their own business and having some sense before they move into an area and not feel entitled to make everybody else live how they do, my my point is that by breaking up parties and enforcing these ordinances in places like Del Playa where everybody expects a party, they are moving the parties out into other areas of IV when they could keep them relatively contained to a certain area, thus alleviating the problem of neighbor complaints.

Enforcing these ordinances ends up making it WORSE for people who want it quiet by moving parties to areas than would have been more quiet and WORSE for people who want parties by ending their fun. I'm not trying to say everybody should put up with parties, I'm trying to create an amicable approach so that everybody can get what they want. Your side won't make ANY concessions.. EVERYBODY IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD must be quiet, according to you - that is a very selfish and tyrannical attitude. Just because you don't have fun at parties doesn't mean other people aren't having the time of their lives, why do you have to ruin it when you don't even live there and it doesn't affect you??

On Second UCSB Frat Closed in Three Months

Posted on February 27 at 11:44 a.m.

LaFleur, do you live in IV near this frat? If so are you being forced to live next to a frat or were there other housing options for you? I imagine you probably live out in Goleta or in the suburbs of Santa Barbara... How does their party disturb you? Why would you assume any of the neighbors were being disturbed?

The reason the parties are moving to the frats in the middle of IV is because they have been more strict in the last couple years about shutting down parties on Del Playa. In fact, last weekend they shut down a party that had a keg and I talked to a kid who got arrested for picking up an empty red cup to throw in the dumpster after the party was broken up. It's really sad how the cops work to potentially ruin people's lives over this kind of nonsense.

Anyway, if the cops let the epicenter of parties happen on Del Playa as they naturally would, then IV would be more segregated into a quiet side on the north and to the west and the more noisey side on the south and to the east. Nobody would be forced to live in the noisey areas and people who want it quieter can live in the quieter areas. Then when parties happen and music goes past midnight, they generally wouldn't have people calling in for noise complaints anyway because they chose to live there. People on the other side of town who expect more quiet could potentially call in noise complaints and there would be more people out there to appreciate them helping to keep things quiet.

My point is that enforcement of these dumb rules mixes everything up, it makes people make dumb decisions and think they can live in areas that are going to be loud like next to a frat house when they want it to be quiet because the police will protect them..

You're the one that is selfish, you think you can just go in and live anywhere and everybody should conform to your standard.. Why not give people who want to party a space to do so and you live around quieter people who you want to live around?

On Second UCSB Frat Closed in Three Months

Posted on February 27 at 11:13 a.m.

"I am not a dog owner and honestly do not understand the fascination of people with their dogs, but they do enjoy congregating as a social aspect for both the dogs and owners." -SQinSB

It's called socializing. The more you socialize your dog, particularly by starting at a young age, the better they are around other people and dogs. If nobody went to the park with their dog and let them run around with other dogs and people, then the dogs would have more problems behaving when they actually need to be around other people and dogs for whatever reason. Therefore, by having more areas where people can socialize their dogs you actually have a city that has dogs which are better behaved.

So this is great news - increasing the number of areas that allow off-lease dogs helps take a load off the highly impacted areas that do allow it.

If you're at Hendry's beach you should probably expect some dogs will go over the boundary, it's a dog beach and dogs don't know where the boundaries are. When I'm there it seems to be working fairly well, if you go far enough to the right there usually are no dogs. If you want to go to a beach with less dogs there are other options fairly close by in both directions.

Of course, there are many areas that require leashes where people simply disobey the rules. As long as their dog isn't causing any problems I don't see what the issue is. Ellwood is a good example, that area definitely should be on Goleta's list of areas to remove the leash requirement.

On City Studies New Off-Leash Areas

Posted on February 27 at 11 a.m.

What difference does it make??

They are still going to school there, they are still going to find a way to have big parties.. The ONLY difference is that now these parties won't be associated and condoned by the frat. bimbo thinks they are actually "doing something" about the partying. Well, why should they do ANYTHING when these are the activities these kids are choosing to participate in on their spare time?

They actually had a really great party last weekend, a lot of people had a lot of fun. It got shut down because the music went after midnight. Why do people insist on throwing wet blankets onto other people's good time?? I mean, seriously, you have to have something wrong with you to just go around being happy about ruining other people's good time.

On Second UCSB Frat Closed in Three Months

Posted on February 26 at 5:17 p.m.

Here's the thing, sacjon, you're totally right.. the CURRENT $100 fine is nothing...and yet... if you drive out to Montecito late at night on the weekend some time and roll down your window... in all likelihood you will hear... absolute silence!!

So anybody out there who wants to throw a big party knows they can do it and the worst thing that will happen is they will get a $100 fine, which is completely affordable....so basically large parties are a free for all and yet the world isn't ending, it's very quiet out there 99%+ of the time... so why do we need to change anything?

The only thing I would say is that I might be ok with fining the occupants a reasonable amount, about $100, to pay for a couple of police officers to come out and direct traffic if their guests are blocking off the street waiting to get in. If they have their own traffic directors then they don't need to be fined.

What I would do is have all the guests come in from the side where they make a right hand turn and have one officer tell them to stay to the right and wait in line for the wedding and then as people come up to the line they can ask if they are there for the wedding, if not they can radio the officer at the other end to block off oncoming traffic so they can let them around. Two officers could handle this and have the street cleared within an hour.

On Williams Drafts Bill to Quash Kardashian-Style Weddings

Posted on February 26 at 4:01 p.m.

I mean, it's just a golden star you have to sew onto your lapel, what's the big deal? Just do the right thing. IDENTIFY YOURSELF. Get on the train, go to the concentration camp. THEY ARE GIVING YOU FREE BREAD AND WATER!! Go take a shower, your rights are still in tact, no need to get your panties in a bunch.

On Williams Drafts Bill to Quash Kardashian-Style Weddings

Posted on February 26 at 3:57 p.m.

Who says they have to grant the permit requested?

Why do I need permission from the govt. to have guests at my house?

Ya, today it is for "large gatherings" and tomorrow they shut down a Christian prayer group or worse a political action group who meets at someone's house cuz a neighbor complains about parking and then they are suing the county and taking all the tax money we paid in to upkeep the roads and whatnot..

On Williams Drafts Bill to Quash Kardashian-Style Weddings

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