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Posted on March 31 at 11:34 a.m.

^ so the trash in the ocean weeks later was "nothing"?

On Threat of Floatopia Closes IV Beaches

Posted on May 25 at 1:16 p.m.

@noletaman-

"Even when the Irish and the Catholics were at war in Northern Ireland things never reached that level of barbarity."

Off topic, but I would have to disagree with this. First off, it was mainly loyalist paramilitaries (UDA, UDF) and the british army itself fighting Republican paramilitaries (IRA, INLA), not the Irish and the Catholics at war, as you (maybe mistakenly?) wrote. Maybe I just read that wrong as well? Religion did play a part in the division, as did socio-economic reasons... Not really my point though.

My point is that there were horrible acts of violence committed by both sides of the conflict. </endthreadhijack>

On topic, the comments on this article have been very informative, especially the rather lengthy post by blogulator. In all, they really do illustrate how polarized our society is.

On A Mosque Grows in Goleta

Posted on May 4 at 10:19 a.m.

They report about something positive going on in IV, and you are still going to grind your axe?

Actually, if you click on the IV link at the top, there are plenty of stories about positive things happening in IV.. new skatepark, yoga classes in the park, a new bus line, whale counts, etc...

On Earth Day Isla Vista Style

Posted on April 22 at 1:44 p.m.

Hopefully the Floatopia organizers were taking notes.

On Earth Day Cleans Up After Itself

Posted on April 13 at 3:51 p.m.

@Phir - "Why are you holding UCSB students responsible for the incident?"

No UCSB students were there? maybe it was wrong for me to generalize them like that, but still, I would guess that the majority of the attendees were UCSB students... Just a guess.... Still doesn't take away from the fact that the environment was completely disrespected.

@Hank- well said.

@pardallchewinggumspot- So...

1 day of Floatopia Trash = an entire summers worth of trash at any other south coast beach? That's a lot of trash.

It's a good thing they only try to do it once a year. Maybe next time they will act responsibly and pick up their ******* trash.

On Buoyed by Beer, Floatopia Survives on Land

Posted on April 12 at 8:55 p.m.

No I think that the amount of trash left behind was obscene. Which it was. Disagree?

On Buoyed by Beer, Floatopia Survives on Land

Posted on April 12 at 6:05 p.m.

"I think Floatopia 2009 had less impact than 10,000 or 20,000 beach visits elsewhere on the South Coast."

Which is obscene.

On Buoyed by Beer, Floatopia Survives on Land

Posted on April 12 at 2:49 p.m.

Never once did I ignore the clean up efforts, I actually applauded them. The fact that they couldn't possibly clean up everything that was left behind is still just that - a fact. There never should have been that amount of trash to begin with, and that is my point. There just is no way to justify it, no matter how hard you try....entirely inexcusable.

I'm not calling for a ban on all beach usage.... That would be ridiculous. But for you to say that the trash generated by floatopia is equal to any other day at Arroyo Burro or wherever is insane.

Your argument is weak, which is probably why you keep trying to point the finger at other events.

On Buoyed by Beer, Floatopia Survives on Land

Posted on April 12 at 12:01 p.m.

So SB beaches get trashed like IV beach after Floatopia? Hah. Nice try. Fiesta? Fiesta has nothing to do with it. No matter how hard you try to change the subject and deflect the issue, it's not going to make it go away. Yes there was clean up by some responsible people. I get it. The point is that the beach never should have been trashed like it was in the first place. Do you seriously think that this criticism is unfair?

rc251- good question.. I wonder if the revenue from the citations and such offset the $$$ that the county spent babysitting. But that's not really the issue I have with it. It is the fact that the environment was completely disrespected by USCB students who generally claim to be pro-environment.

On Buoyed by Beer, Floatopia Survives on Land

Posted on April 12 at 11:21 a.m.

@pardallchewinggumspot

So what was inaccurate? Was the beach not trashed last year? Did people not fall off the cliffs? Was there no arrests or citations? Did the county not have to spend $20,000 dollars babysitting?

On Buoyed by Beer, Floatopia Survives on Land

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