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Posted on January 11 at 12:54 p.m.
So who are the crazies, @edmanski? Those that wish to focus on the 0.5% crimes and then push for more nanny laws or those that chose to argue with real numbers?
In real life, violent crime is down over 40% since 1993, but when you survey people they actually think it is getting worse. That mental incongruity is due to the media. Fear is a powerful motivator and the powers that be play it well.
On On Guns and Safety
Posted on January 10 at 11:54 a.m.
@Evol: Limiting magazine size is not going to really deter a crazy person bent on taking out a large number of people. 10 round magazines can be swapped out in seconds and a person can easily carry 10 or 15 magazines on their person. A large percentage of the "mass killings" casualties were from pistols.
Wait...again I'm getting sucked into the 1/2 percent argument. Man, you almost got me.
Posted on January 10 at 10:49 a.m.
Thankfully Fina isn't the last word. If the proliferation of fire arms makes us less safe, then shouldn't Chicago be very safe? Wouldn't DC be very safe? Wouldn't Mexico be very safe? Our focus should be on gangs. Our focus should be on poverty. These are the overwhelming factors in our relatively high rate of gun violence. If we want to get our gun-violence rate down, why are we talking about random "mass killings", which, as I pointed out, represent a little over half of one percent of the gun related homicides in 2012? Let's have a discussion about the policies that have created poor and dangerous ghettos where young people have little choice but to join gangs or sell drugs to get by. Why are young African American men 7 times more likely to commit murder than young white men? Why are their victims also black 82% of the time? Let's talk about the fact that the violent crime rate in the US has DROPPED every year since 1993 until last year. Was there a sudden rush of guns that flooded the market in just one year to account for this change? No.
Posted on January 10 at 9:19 a.m.
I'll say this...Congrats to whomever is pulling the strings for effectively instilling fear in the hearts of citizens based on an infinitesimally small likelihood of events in an effort to further legislate away our constitutional freedoms. You win.
Some seemingly bright people on this board have been hoodwinked.
Posted on January 9 at 4:15 p.m.
DrDan- To be worried about being a victim of a mass killing by an "assault weapon" is about as rational as living in constant fear of being struck by lightning.
And yet we Citizens risk losing our rights when these tragic, yet extremely rare events occur.
We are the most spied upon group of people in the history of the world, and the government is doing the spying. The President sign the NDAA 2013 allowing for indefinite military detention without due process? Why?
The Government is cataloging each piece of communication and storing it until it finally has the computing power to break the encryption. Why?http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/
I'm sure I'm already on a special list somewhere...
Posted on January 9 at 12:42 p.m.
I did read the essay and I gave Mr. Fina his due respect because he has served our country and his communities for the better part of his life. I was not saying it flippantly. I did try to provide some context for the birth of the 2nd Amendment by providing the quotes in my first reply (@EastBeach) from some people that were actually there.
I agree wholeheartedly with @edukder that simply accepting the military as all powerful and therefore we might-as-well give up any possible means of resistance is cringe-worthy. If and when the time comes, the military and police will have mass defections and join sides with the people.
The fact is that the Supreme Court has ruled, in 2008 and in 2010 (recent enough for you?) that the 2nd Amendment applies to individuals.
The fact is that concealed-carry permit owners commit less crime per capita than actual police officers.
The fact is that roughly 62% of the gun deaths per year are suicide.
The fact is that the remaining gun deaths are overwhelmingly gang-related and happen in areas of concentrated poverty.
The fact is that "Mass Shootings" accounted for a total of 76 deaths in 2011. This translates to 0.0068% of the total gun related homicides. Should we legislated based on this information? If so, why don't we legislate the violent movies and video games as well as the mind-altering SSRI drugs with the known violent and suicidal side effects?
The fact is that poverty is a great predictor of actual homicide rates. http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/...
Should we make it illegal to be poor and African American or Latino? I guess it is easier for politicians to just grab the guns than to actually try to fix the real problems. And most of you follow along blindly.
Posted on January 8 at 4:53 p.m.
With all due respect, Mr. Fina, I'll give up my right to own and carry a gun when all of the criminals, police and military agree to give up theirs. I don't feel safer knowing the DHS is buying 450 million rounds of ammunition and President Obama is signing the NDAA 2013 which allows for indefinite military detention, in violation of the 5th Amendment.
The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting and police cannot adequately protect the citizenry. You seem like a reasoned and educated person, so I would expect that you respect the knowledge and wisdom of our Country's forefathers:
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” -Thomas Jefferson.
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." -Thomas Jefferson
"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them." -Thomas Paine
Posted on September 10 at 8:55 a.m.
Winner by TKO...Italiansurg!
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Posted on September 10 at 8:49 a.m.
Both headlines are somewhat misleading and not-so-subtly hint at the Indy's political position.
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