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Posted on January 6 at 1:41 p.m.
As if either JarvisJarvis or Herschel_Greenspan has access to the content of every conversation between Morua and Capps.
On Dies Family Awarded $2.5 Million Settlement
Posted on January 6 at 9:09 a.m.
Capps gave a US military veteran a chance. Good for her. The only reason $2.5 million of taxpayer money got paid out was Matt Dies, nomoresanity, JarvisJarvis, and Botany believe in handouts of taxpayer money for anyone who asserts victimhood.
Matt Dies could have chosen not to fling turds and to honor his daughter. He could still do so by handing back the $2.5 million.
Posted on January 5 at 2:20 p.m.
Well, Botany, you are the one that thinks Matt Dies deserves a big payout from the taxpayer. He does not deserve it in the first place. Your logic is faulty.
Me, well, McCain got my vote. Always liked Barry Goldwater too, thought he got a raw deal, he was pro-choice.
JarvisJarvis, your love for Obama & big government payouts to anyone asserting victimhood like Matt Dies hurts our great country.
Posted on January 5 at 10:41 a.m.
More turds from JarvisJarvis, nomoreinsanity, Botany... the lobby for taking taxpayer dollars and transferring them to anyone with a perceived victimhood grievance.
Plenty of turd flinging by homo sapiens in our prisons. The literal kind, not figurative.
Perhaps Lois gave a military veteran the benefit of the doubt. If you hate the US and its military, that will incite you into turd flinging.
Botany said... ``But if we hire people with criminal records into government service like this, we can expect to pay more in settlement costs. That's the way our justice system is.''
No it isn't. In the short run our jury system is sometimes a popularity contest. In the long run it does weigh justice with reasonable accuracy. But in any individual case, justice can be expensive. Large institutions like the US government see it all, roll their eyes, toughen up, hold their nose, swallow the battleship, and pay out to minimize expenses. If you hate the US government and the US, like JarvisJarvis, Botany, etc, you start flinging turds.
And please remember: Matt Dies explicitly agreed that the US government ***AND LOIS CAPPS*** has no liability whatsoever. None. Zero. Null. אפס.
Posted on January 4 at 10:10 p.m.
No, the US government did not decide that the `legal system' disagreed with the sentiment of personal responsibility.
The US government admitted no liability whatsoever, in fact, the settlement ``... stipulates the government doesn’t admit any liability in Dies’s death.''. Reading comprehension, Botany, JarvisJarvis, etc.
What the US government did is make an assessment as to the probability of a particular random jury deciding the case in favor of Dies, and then the cost of all the appeals that it would take to reverse a particular random jury. The cost times the probabilities must have been about $2.5 million or more.
So the US government offered the settlement, ***WITH NO ADMISSION OF LIABILITY***. Matt Dies, who is pretty clearly filled with greed for filthy lucre, took the $. He also faced the choice of holding out for a settlement where the US government and/or Capps had to explicitly admit liability, and he caved, and accepted no such admission.
The US government gets sued 100's of thousands of times each year, by people who think, like Botany, JarvisJarvis, Matt Dies, etc, that any shred of victimhood entitles the alleged victim to a multimillion $ slice of taxpayer $.
And Botany, JarvisJarvis, and Matt Dies are particularly antagonistic to the US Military and veterans like Morua, so they particularly want to fling turds at veterans and our armed forces.
Posted on January 4 at 5:45 p.m.
Naturally, JarvisJarvis mainly wants to direct payouts from the US taxpayer only to people he likes, but he adheres to the principal that the US taxpayer should subsidize anyone who asserts victimhood, like, Matt Dies.
Capps has no civil liability. Morua was not a faulty automobile, but a person. If an automobile has a record of malfunction, there is a documented higher likelihood of future malfunction. People are not predictable in the same manner, and often prior mistakes cause people to completely reform in the future. I don't think G. W. Bush has had a drink in quite some time.
So no, Capps made no mistake in hiring a US military veteran and giving that veteran a chance, even in the face of prior issues with alcohol. She nor the US government has any liability whatsoever for the tragic death of Mallory Dies.
To pretend otherwise is to assert that human behavior is predictable. It is not. Period.
And it might be that all of you who are flinging your turds at Capps and the US Government and at the US military might just suddenly stop. Wouldn't that be great.
Posted on January 3 at 11:25 p.m.
No, Botany and JarvisJarvis, you do not believe in personal responsibility. You two are type of people that want the US taxpayer to step in and heal every perceived slight no matter how irresponsible the individual who is involved behaved.
Posted on January 3 at 8:41 p.m.
If I commit a murder at an event assigned to me by my employer, ***MY EMPLOYER*** is not responsible.
Posted on January 3 at 8:40 p.m.
Jarvis, no, drinking, driving drunk, and breaking the law by doing so is never part of the duties that were assigned to Morua. Thus Capps' office is in no way responsible.
If I commit a murder at an event assigned to me by my employer, I'm not responsible.
Botany, the US Government simply compared the cost of taking this matter to trial and calculated that this solution was more economical. There is absolutely no admission in any way of responsibility, just a strict financial calculation.
Both Botany & Jarvis don't believe in personal responsibility, but they believe in a nanny state where personal responsibility does not pertain.
Posted on January 3 at 5:25 p.m.
It is Morua who is fully responsible for his actions, not Capps, the US Government, society, the United Nations, the US Military, the City of Santa Barbara, the distillers of alcoholic spirits, the manufacturer of his automobile, etc, etc.
Even if he was sent to a party on behalf of his employer, it is not in any way his employer's responsibility to make sure he a)does not drink to excess, b)does not drive a vehicle if he did drink to excess. It is Morua's responsibility, and his alone.
Any other viewpoint is simply wrong and without ethical, moral, or historical basis. That the US government paid the filthy lucre is merely a calculation and accommodation to the greed of Matt Dies.