Scouting for Some Sense
Gay Father Welcomed into Scouts and Then Kicked Out
Wednesday, October 27, 2010
Pet Care. Kickball. Archery. Cub Scouts earn a colored belt loop for each cool new skill they master. Strangely, the organization doesn’t make a loop for the lesson that’s being taught to the little boys in Pack 70 of University Park, Texas: intolerance.
The pack’s leaders stripped a fellow dad of his uniform and troop leadership role earlier this month because he’s gay.
That’s all. Just gay.
Starshine Roshell
For two years, Jon Langbert and his nine-year-old son, Carter, were active in the pack; Carter has more than 15 loops on his belt for fishing, woodworking, basketball, and chess.
Langbert was once a Cub Scout himself and treasures memories of building pinewood derby cars with his own dad. But he worried about joining with Carter.
“I was concerned about the gay issue,” he told me last week. “I called the Cubmaster and said, ‘Hey, I’m a gay guy and my son wants to sign up. Is there going to be any problem with that?’” The Cubmaster welcomed him, and the pack even nominated him to run its popcorn-sales fundraiser. A Harvard Business School grad, Langbert brought sales up from $4,000 to $13,000 in one year.
Then two weeks ago, the Cubmaster called. “He said some of the dads went to him and complained about having a gay Popcorn Kernel.” (Yes: Popcorn Kernel.) They said he was no longer allowed to wear the pack leader uniform when attending scouting functions with his boy, or hold leadership positions in the group.
“I said, ‘This is wrong,’” Langbert said. “I was so taken aback.”
Wrong? Yes. But perfectly legal.
The Supreme Court ruled in 2000 that as a private organization, the Boy Scouts of America (headquartered just a few miles from Langbert’s home) has a right to exclude anyone they choose to.
But just because they canF doesn’t mean they should.
The club doesn’t offer membership to “avowed gays and atheists” (don’t even get me started)—a policy that applies to both adults and kids. When asked to explain the logic behind said policy, Boy Scouts of America PR director Deron Smith said that the group does not “engage in teaching about sexuality,” believing that “boys should learn about these issues from their parents.”
Dear god! Was Langbert teaching about sexuality? You know, between badminton matches and map-and-compass lessons?
“Absolutely not!” Langbert said, his voice growing angry for the only time during our chat (and can you blame him?). “Never once did that conversation come up. Not with the adults, not with the kids. Never.”
It’s ironic, really: The only education these li’l scouts are getting about sexuality is that if they discover they’re gay—and some absolutely will—they’ll no longer be welcome at the fishing hole. Or in the woodshop. Or on the archery field.
Pack 70’s remaining leaders have invited Carter to stay in the troop, and even asked Langbert to continue fundraising; turns out the gays can really move popcorn. But he’s not sure he wants to be part of a group that would have him explain to his boy why he’s unfit to wear the scout uniform.
“I’m not ashamed of being gay, and I don’t lie to my son,” he said. “I’d love to be able to do the campouts and continue, if Carter wants to. But if they’re just going to make it uncomfortable for us along the way, why put ourselves through that?”
The guys who run Pack 70 ought to brush up on their Scout Law. Remember “loyal, friendly, courteous, and kind”? They might take another whack at “brave” while they’re at it, because there’s no honor in fearing what you don’t understand.
But let’s be clear, dudes. You’re the ones asking him to take his shirt off.
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Starshine Roshell is the author of Keep Your Skirt On.
Comments
Great article!
MotoBella (anonymous profile)
October 27, 2010 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Nice reminder for those who may have forgotten the depth of Boy Scout bias and discrimination that reached its peak in 2000-01, validated by the Supreme Court. Locally, Len Lanzi, the Boy Scout Regional Director, was fired. They still discriminate.
sbsleuth99 (anonymous profile)
October 27, 2010 at 8:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Seems to me that the best way for them not to bring sexuality discussions into the Scouts is not to bring sexuality discussions into the scouts. Surely by banning a gay man and letting all the kids know that he cannot be accepted due to his sexual orientation is doing exactly what they claim they don't want to do.
If, on the other hand, they were just to ignore the fact that he was gay and instead focus on what a great job he did raising money, then the kids would be none the wiser. And sexuality would even enter the equation.
wanker913 (anonymous profile)
October 27, 2010 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The Scout Motto is "Be Prepared".
http://usscouts.org/advance/boyscout/...
So how is an institutional standard operating procedure to discriminate against gay people in membership and employment a way for scouts to "be prepared" for the real world where gay, lesbian, etc. people are here and queer, and protected through various laws and policies.
The Boy Scouts of America needs to GET USED TO IT.
To quote from the Boy Scout Handbook, which is a big deal for those involved:
Be Prepared.
That's the motto of the Boy Scouts.
"Be prepared for what?" someone once asked Baden-Powell, the founder of Scouting,
"Why, for any old thing." said Baden-Powell.
The training you receive in your troop will help you live up to the Scout motto. When someone has an accident, you are prepared because of your first aid instruction. Because of lifesaving practice, you might be able to save a nonswimmer who has fallen into deep water.
But Baden-Powell wasn't thinking just of being ready for emergencies. His idea was that all Scouts should prepare themselves to become productive citizens and to give happiness to other people. He wanted each Scout to be ready in mind and body for any struggles, and to meet with a strong heart whatever challenges might lie ahead.
Be prepared for life - to live happily and without regret, knowing that you have done your best. That's what the Scout motto means.
David_Pritchett (David Pritchett)
October 27, 2010 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Brava, Star. The other comments here reflect exactly what I'm thinking, so I won't gild the lily. Thank you for taking on this very important topic, especially now!
JustSayin (anonymous profile)
October 27, 2010 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Very important topic? Blah Blah Blah Every day of every year in just about every media outlet we are forced to contemplate the sexual indulgence of a minute segment of the population that has had the legal right to engage in consual behavior for over forty years. It is a trite and exploited subject that has wasted so much time and space that if the feds had a nickle for every time the word gay was printed we'd have no debt let alone a yearly defecate.
I'm bored with the whining, sniveling hand wringing drama queens. Get on with your lives and quit being such attention hos.
sa1 (anonymous profile)
October 27, 2010 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sa1,
Troll much?
Kingprawn (anonymous profile)
October 27, 2010 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So did those homophobic dads pay the Pack that $9000 missing popcorn sales cash per year because Langbert was not the Popcorn Kernel any more?
As stoopid as the USA military expelling arabic language translators who happen to be gay.
David_Pritchett (David Pritchett)
October 27, 2010 at 7:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"was printed we'd have no debt let alone a yearly defecate."
I think you meant to say "deficit"
billclausen (anonymous profile)
October 27, 2010 at 9:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm not sure, billclausen. In light of all the other inanity in his post, that might well be intended. It's "defacatible" (shades of Sister Sarah). :-)
SezMe (anonymous profile)
October 29, 2010 at 3:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
sa1 self-refutes.
truth_machine (anonymous profile)
October 29, 2010 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I know phobias and irrational behaviors are omnipresent. But it seems as though the phobias and irrational behaviors are more often in the spotlight just prior to important elections; and especially illuminated by conservatives.
Be afraid of the growing list. Besides phobias of the married homosexuals or "agenda," locally you'll be afraid of homeless, roundabouts and bulbouts. Be afraid of alternative transportation advocates <<< a new phobia recently revealed by Council Member Dale Francisco.
DonMcDermott (anonymous profile)
November 1, 2010 at 6:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Odd, my brother said his scout troop was, well, just about exclusively gay. A bit of self denial at work here.
But the scouts, as a private organization, have a right to kick out kids with funny voices, who wear glasses, who have a stutter, a disability, who are Catholic or Jewish, black, east indian, american indian, once wet their bed, only have1 kidney..... whatever. Odd we all forget that and think of the scouts in any other way but a private group that can and does boot out whoever doesn't look right to them.
sevendolphins (anonymous profile)
November 1, 2010 at 6:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good column, Starshine; keep exposing the haters for the narrow-minded ninnies they are.
And maybe the Scouts (Boys and Girls alike) should think about preparing the kids for a society where people's skin color, nationality, attire, religious beliefs, and lifestyle choices have no direct bearing on their personal character.
niceFLguy (anonymous profile)
November 1, 2010 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
@sevendolphins
A typical strawman/poor reading comprension/stupid comment. As Starshine wrote, "Wrong? Yes. But perfectly legal." and "just because they can doesn’t mean they should".
truth_machine (anonymous profile)
November 1, 2010 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"I'm bored with the whining, sniveling hand wringing drama queens. " -Sa1-
I wish to take issue with this. I believe that "drama queens" should be capitalized.
billclausen (anonymous profile)
November 1, 2010 at 6:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
billclausen; that is funny...
DonMcDermott (anonymous profile)
November 1, 2010 at 8:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What's even funnier is that for some reason when I registered on this site I didn't capitalize my own name and I don't remember why I didn't.
billclausen (anonymous profile)
November 2, 2010 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)