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Posted on December 11 at 7:36 p.m.
tabatha wrote:"...Possibly, every car should have a breathalyzer that disables the car unless one is sober, or flashes the car lights, or sounds a siren."
I posted similarly at Noozhawk, and a response suggested measures that much more heavily penalized law-abiding drinkers.
Tabatha's suggestion makes much more sense to me, assuming the cost was not prohibitively expensive, thus again penalizing the law-abiding.
California, with its huge auto market share, might even be capable of making this nationwide (as, for example, would very likely had happened had the GMO labelling passed), by mandating it for vehicles sold here — though obviously there would be substantial opposition both from the auto companies and the alcohol producers.
Perhaps if Hannah-Beth Jackson is done with her campaign to ban the reproduction of an antique Civil War era hunting rifle ( ;-) ), she could look into this, or at least comment on the lack of feasibility.
On DUI Hit-and-Run Victim Dies, Suspect Charged with Murder
Posted on December 11 at 6:16 p.m.
(With no intent on my part to dictate or limit what anyone cares to discuss here), perhaps some brainstorming on how best locally to minimize the chances of such a tragedy happening again would be useful at this time.
By "locally" I'm referring both to Santa Barbara and California, and to something substantial, perhaps much more stringent penalties for drunk driving to increase deterrence or, though I hate the thought of yet another ineffective law piled on top of so many, a local ordinance or state legislation.
Though federal rather than state, perhaps Capps' office might contribute something useful here.
Mallory's CaringBridge page is here:
Posted on December 11 at 5:59 p.m.
DUI Hit-and-Run Victim Dies, Suspect Charged with Murderhttp://www.independent.com/news/2013/...
On DUI Hit-and-Run Suspect Raymond Morua Has Criminal Record
Posted on December 11 at 3:44 p.m.
Correction to my comment above:
Bill wrote "being taken," not "been taken."
Posted on December 11 at 3:41 p.m.
loonpt wrote:"I would expect that the discussion would revolve around topics related to the suspect, the incident itself, Lois Capps as well as the victim.
"Therefore all topics in this discussion are fair play..."
loonpt's first paragraph is perplexing: the second sentence appears to contradict the first; I agree with the second.
Regarding the second paragraph, in the unlikely event bill's report above is incorrect, I very much share and transmit that hope.
Relevant to that is this most recent note at the CaringBridge page which, incidentally, seems to conflate reporting a decision (I would think not irrevocable) to withdraw life support today with reporting that Mallory has already died.
"1:00pm December 11th
"MALLORY HAS NOT PASSED YET. SHE WAS IN THE SAME POSITION SHE WAS IN YESTERDAY. Please refrain from posting anything publicly about her passing in anyway. We all love her and the posts are made with the best intentions but her family does need to be seeing or hearing about that.
"Until we officially hear from the staff, we would love it if her friends and friends of friends would take down their posts anything regarding our Mallory passing."
Posted on December 11 at 1:40 p.m.
As it had some recent activity, I excerpted your comment to the Noozhawk article here...
...then directed any there to the 12:52 pm Noozhawk article here:
Victim of Alleged DUI Hit-and-Run to Be Taken Off Life Supporthttp://www.noozhawk.com/article/dui_h...
(As of this writing, both my Noozhawk comments are awaiting moderation.)
Posted on December 11 at 12:40 p.m.
Herschel_Greenspan wrote:"It is sad that the news of a tragic accident is used by some posters to advance their goofy agendas. Knock if off thread jackers."
Perhaps Herschel might clarify why he thinks he should determine, rather than the Santa Barbara Independent, via use of the 'Suggest removal' link at every comment, what people are allowed to discuss, in this or any other Independent comment section, especially considering that such comments do not violate the 'Independent Discussion Guidelines [ http://www.independent.com/discussion... ] posted at the top of every comment section.
Posted on December 11 at 9:03 a.m.
DrDan wrote:"...and the chemical weapons issues in Syria obviously have a lot to do with Morua's chemical-dependency issues..."
I assume DrDan is referring to tabatha's continued (and apparently fruitless, judging by the lack of response) attempts to flog the Syria issue, apparently not understanding, even after I clarified for her at December 9, 2013 at 1:38 p.m....
"Capps certainly didn't bother to do any due diligence three months ago regarding much more lethal chemical weapons, prior to joining the executive branch of the USA government in its attempt to lie us into a war in Syria, so it's no surprise to me that she didn't do due diligence in considerably less significant employment matters, prior to hiring an employee who has now used our local version of chemical weapons to inflict grievous harm onto a Santa Barbara resident."
...that I raised the Syria issue simply as it relates to Capps' character and competence (i.e. note, if missed the first time, the eighth and ninth words of the paragraph above: "due diligence")...
… and even after I clarified this even a second time for her, at December 9, 2013 at 3:56 p.m.:
"Lois Capps' 10 September letter was a lie REGARDLESS of who fired off chemical weapons in Syria, because at that time, the Obama administration was all over the Sunday talking head shows peddling desperate nonsense to the effect that it was just "common sense" that it had to be Assad.
"So even if Capps somehow was unaware of the memo linked above [ http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/0... ], she had to have known that even the Obama administration was admitting (perhaps unintentionally) what most of the world already knew: that at that early date there was not yet evidence to determine who fired off the chemical weapons."
Posted on December 9 at 6:36 p.m.
howgreenwasmyvalley wrote:"…put your politics where the sun don't shine…The girl needs positive energy and love."
I very much agree with your sentiment regarding Mallory, but with all due respect (and you can trust I sincerely mean that, due to our very positive interactions in other discussions), regarding "put your politics where the sun don't shine," the article title is:
DUI Hit-and-Run Suspect Raymond Morua Has Criminal RecordFired from Lois Capps Office; Held on $250,000 Bail
Setting aside the fact that giving positive energy and love does not require a discussion, and that, even if it did, many prefer to do so in their own way, privately, it's no more logical for you to admonish participants in this discussion for not focussing exclusively on Mallory than it would be for you to admonish the Independent for focussing more on issues related to the perpetrator than the victim in this particular article.
I have had Mallory in my thoughts since I first became aware of this incident and, in fact, in order to generate many reminders per day to continue doing so, immediately set the CaringBridge webpage temporarily as my browser home page.
I can do a variety of things in a day without detracting from other things, and so can others.
Posted on December 9 at 5:26 p.m.
Draxor wrote:"Mr. Tieber---you might consider backing off YOUR obvious drug of choice----meth-fueled delusion."
Meth, huh: odd choice; and also, incidentally, I'm perplexed by what you were attempting to accomplish by putting 'your' in ALL CAPS.
But excellent refutation, Draxor. You can read more about your discussion abilities here:
And then, if that hasn't consumed too much of your time, you might consider tackling:
How to Disagreehttp://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html
Finally (and I do mean finally, so feel free to have the last word, especially if it will make you feel better and amuse myself and others):
Congratulations: I'm nearly certain Paul Graham would consider your comment at the second level from the bottom of his colorful seven-level 'Hierarchy of Disagreement' pyramid near the bottom here:
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